2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

If you all feel that President Trump has truly lost this election, why is it that swing states such as Arizon is fighting against just looking at the Dominion vote machines? Why in fact are they fighting and refusing to abide by lawful subpoenas? If you all actually think Biden has won "Legally" why are so many within the political establishment just wanting to move along without allowing the Constitutional process to continue for President Trump? Every single president in our history has the right to challenge presidential elections if there was in fact the potential for election interference. So what is so wrong for President Trump to follow the Constitutional remedies allowed by law? If the votes for Biden are so clean, wouldnt you and the rest of the American citizenry want to be completely vindicated as to the results of this election? As of now, I have yet to see any real refutation of street level facts other than Trump is just trying to stay in office. What other real argument has been made by the MSM or other so called experts come into play? Just name calling, and you conservatives are traitors to the U.S. for even questioning the election. Your side being the progressive movement specifically politicians and again the MSM have literally told the conservatives to shut up and if you dont doom on us. So once and for all regarding this election, what is so terrible about wanting to get to the bottom of what transpired?
Mike

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Jlw Loc: Wisconsin

All you will hear is crickets. Anything positive about Trump they want buried

Helilord

The democrats should be the ones to insist on disproving election fraud.
If they do not, there will be a dark shadow over the Biden presidency, which will only get worse over time.

American Vet

I have been asking the same question since day 1 - not a single leftist response......

Big dog

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Kevyn

Every state where trump lost and then lied falsely claiming fraud has been audited and multiple recounts have taken place with no change in results. Beyond that no evidence of fraud has been presented by those claiming fraud.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

If there were evidence of the claimed voter fraud, it would have been presented already. Continuing to try and FIND evidence to back up the claims, merely illustrates the fact that those claims were specious to begin with.

That's like claiming that Bigfoot is real, then looking for evidence to back that up.

Theory one; there MUST be voter fraud, because we can't believe we lost, I hope I can find evidence to support that.

Theory two; There is no voter fraud unless evidence shows there is.

Lonewolf

You do know these machines use a paper ballots and the hand recount matched the machine count that's why the election was certified in a red state.

Grugore

I just can't believe that willfully ignorant people are still claiming there is no voter fraud. Do these people actually believe this? How could they? Anyone who says no voter fraud is either criminally stupid, or they have no problem with it, and have probably participated in it. That's ok. Their day is coming. Lot of people are going to hang for this.

jelun

Refuted far too many times is that there are any street level facts. The contradictions are pheomonal.
No observers were allowed on the Republican side and yet SO MUCH fraud was viewed by Republican observers.


So far as auditing Dominion machines is concerned. It is expensive and fruitless, what happened to fiscal conservatism? The paper trails that are available demonstrates that the fraud is in the allegations.
The end.

jelun

Very few people say NO voter fraud other than as short hand, sloppy talk.
The point is that there is very little voter error that grifters and liars buy into to spread lies.
Now, if you want to talk about election fraud such as Kemp pulled when he was GA SoS, let's go.

Grugore

It has been confirmed that foreign powers interfered in the election. It has also been confirmed that dominion machines were made with the intention of rigging elections. It has been confirmed that illegals and dead people voted in significant numbers. Many people voted twice. None residents voted in several states. The list goes on.

Kevyn

There is always a small amount of voter fraud, when it is caught it is aggressively prosecuted. What their clearly isn’t is widespread coordinated fraud that could have had any impact on the outcome of the election. Over the entire nation there may be a few hundred votes that were not counted or shouldn’t have been counted. No more to advantage one candidate over another or have any effect on the outcome of Biden’s seven million vote trouncing of Trump.

DaWg44

You do know that putting the same paper in the machines is going to come up with same numbers. There were no hand recounts. There was no separation of mail in ballots that were not creased, no investigation of machine marked ballots w/ only Biden chosen, no one down stream.

The biggest thing was you had the same people unsupervised doing the make believe certifications to insure things turned out exactly the same which in itself is almost statistically impossible.

After the smoke clears some Democrat activist that did not get what he/she was promised will write a book for a $million on how the election was stolen.

kemmer

Dominion is threatening Fox, OAN, and Newsmax with a huge lawsuit if they don't stop spreading lies about Dominions machines and software. As a result, Fox, OAN, and Newsmax are falling all over themselves, saying that they were simply "reporting what some people were saying". Their lies are going to cost them big time unless they "modify" their reporting.