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Nov 13, 2020 20:47:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
I was just thinking outside the box a bit and thought... what if Congress passes a bill that simply says all of Trump's appointments are null and void? And what if Biden signs it?

Would it be unconstitutional?
Could Senate block it with only 50 seats?
Would it even be worth it?

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Nov 13, 2020 21:11:13   #
PeterS
 
straightUp wrote:
I was just thinking outside the box a bit and thought... what if Congress passes a bill that simply says all of Trump's appointments are null and void? And what if Biden signs it?

Would it be unconstitutional?
Could Senate block it with only 50 seats?
Would it even be worth it?

I don't understand where you are trying to go. Won't Biden put in his own appointments and won't that negate the appointments that Trump has made?

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Nov 13, 2020 21:23:22   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
I was just thinking outside the box a bit and thought... what if Congress passes a bill that simply says all of Trump's appointments are null and void? And what if Biden signs it?

Would it be unconstitutional?
Could Senate block it with only 50 seats?
Would it even be worth it?


Quit attempting thought, and get a job. It'll do ya good!

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Nov 13, 2020 21:53:01   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
straightUp wrote:
I was just thinking outside the box a bit and thought... what if Congress passes a bill that simply says all of Trump's appointments are null and void? And what if Biden signs it?

Would it be unconstitutional?
Could Senate block it with only 50 seats?
Would it even be worth it?


All? No...it wouldn't be worth it.

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Nov 13, 2020 21:54:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
I don't understand where you are trying to go. Won't Biden put in his own appointments and won't that negate the appointments that Trump has made?


That's why I asked...all?

Straightup isn't being straightup.

He has a particular appointment or two or three in mind.

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Nov 13, 2020 21:55:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
archie bunker wrote:
Quit attempting thought, and get a job. It'll do ya good!


I can read these people like a book.

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Nov 13, 2020 22:06:02   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
PeterS wrote:
I don't understand where you are trying to go. Won't Biden put in his own appointments and won't that negate the appointments that Trump has made?


What? No... Biden can fill whatever vacancies Trump leaves and whatever vacancies appear during his term but that doesn't mean Trump's appointees will be negated.

I'm not actually trying to go anywhere in particular with this. I'm just curious if through an act of Congress Trumps appointments, let's say to the U.S. Supreme Court or the Federal Reserve, can be voided.

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Nov 13, 2020 22:07:11   #
Michael10
 
archie bunker wrote:
Quit attempting thought, and get a job. It'll do ya good!


not taking sides here but Archie, why would you assume he doesn't have a job?

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Nov 13, 2020 22:09:33   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
archie bunker wrote:
Quit attempting thought, and get a job. It'll do ya good!


I already have a job archie. But I also have some time to "attempt thought"... Maybe even spread the idea around... maybe even write to my representative... maybe even petition citizens. Or maybe I won't. Maybe all I really want to do is let people know what's possible.

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Nov 13, 2020 22:32:31   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
BigMike wrote:
That's why I asked...all?

Straightup isn't being straightup.

He has a particular appointment or two or three in mind.


I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so apparently you CAN'T read ALL of us like a book). I'm really just curious about the feasibility of such a law.

I've already posted about my acceptance of Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court on the basic idea that a good judge will not allow their ideology to interfere with their commitment to the Constitution. Kavanaugh was the only one who's integrity I doubted when he was confirmed but he has already made decisions where he put the Constitution before Trump's unconstitutional agenda, so that's cool.

There's a lot of talk going on about the sudden change of mind among Republicans once it became clear that Biden was going to win the presidency, that they would confirm Trump's appointee to the Federal Reserve, Judy Shelton, after all. Earlier this year, McConnell couldn't get her past the Senate because too many Republicans voted no citing her reckless approach to monetary policy. Now it appear Biden will win the election and suddenly the Republicans are like... "Oh... Well, let's confirm Judy after all." There's the conspiracy theory that this is a part of a Republicans effort to sabotage the government before handing it over to Biden.

I'm not necessarily giving any credence to this conspiracy theory but the fuss over it just made me wonder if a specific president's appointments can be invalidated through an act of Congress. I'm not seeing any rules against it.

And why not ALL of his appointments? I'm not talking about his cabinet... those appointments will be replaced with Biden appointments this January. I'm referring to the outside appointments like the courts.

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Nov 13, 2020 22:58:42   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
straightUp wrote:
I was just thinking outside the box a bit and thought... what if Congress passes a bill that simply says all of Trump's appointments are null and void? And what if Biden signs it?

Would it be unconstitutional?
Could Senate block it with only 50 seats?
Would it even be worth it?


The Senate cannot block with 50 seats. They can block with 51, which they will probably have after Jan 5th.

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Nov 13, 2020 23:00:30   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so apparently you CAN'T read ALL of us like a book). I'm really just curious about the feasibility of such a law.

I've already posted about my acceptance of Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court on the basic idea that a good judge will not allow their ideology to interfere with their commitment to the Constitution. Kavanaugh was the only one who's integrity I doubted when he was confirmed but he has already made decisions where he put the Constitution before Trump's unconstitutional agenda, so that's cool.

There's a lot of talk going on about the sudden change of mind among Republicans once it became clear that Biden was going to win the presidency, that they would confirm Trump's appointee to the Federal Reserve, Judy Shelton, after all. Earlier this year, McConnell couldn't get her past the Senate because too many Republicans voted no citing her reckless approach to monetary policy. Now it appear Biden will win the election and suddenly the Republicans are like... "Oh... Well, let's confirm Judy after all." There's the conspiracy theory that this is a part of a Republicans effort to sabotage the government before handing it over to Biden.

I'm not necessarily giving any credence to this conspiracy theory but the fuss over it just made me wonder if a specific president's appointments can be invalidated through an act of Congress. I'm not seeing any rules against it.

And why not ALL of his appointments? I'm not talking about his cabinet... those appointments will be replaced with Biden appointments this January. I'm referring to the outside appointments like the courts.
I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so appa... (show quote)


The Federal Judiciary is a lifetime appointment.

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Nov 13, 2020 23:54:12   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so apparently you CAN'T read ALL of us like a book). I'm really just curious about the feasibility of such a law.

I've already posted about my acceptance of Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court on the basic idea that a good judge will not allow their ideology to interfere with their commitment to the Constitution. Kavanaugh was the only one who's integrity I doubted when he was confirmed but he has already made decisions where he put the Constitution before Trump's unconstitutional agenda, so that's cool.

There's a lot of talk going on about the sudden change of mind among Republicans once it became clear that Biden was going to win the presidency, that they would confirm Trump's appointee to the Federal Reserve, Judy Shelton, after all. Earlier this year, McConnell couldn't get her past the Senate because too many Republicans voted no citing her reckless approach to monetary policy. Now it appear Biden will win the election and suddenly the Republicans are like... "Oh... Well, let's confirm Judy after all." There's the conspiracy theory that this is a part of a Republicans effort to sabotage the government before handing it over to Biden.

I'm not necessarily giving any credence to this conspiracy theory but the fuss over it just made me wonder if a specific president's appointments can be invalidated through an act of Congress. I'm not seeing any rules against it.

And why not ALL of his appointments? I'm not talking about his cabinet... those appointments will be replaced with Biden appointments this January. I'm referring to the outside appointments like the courts.
I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so appa... (show quote)


Janet Yellin will not be Fed chair. It will be a woman, though.

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Nov 14, 2020 00:05:59   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so apparently you CAN'T read ALL of us like a book). I'm really just curious about the feasibility of such a law.

I've already posted about my acceptance of Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court on the basic idea that a good judge will not allow their ideology to interfere with their commitment to the Constitution. Kavanaugh was the only one who's integrity I doubted when he was confirmed but he has already made decisions where he put the Constitution before Trump's unconstitutional agenda, so that's cool.

There's a lot of talk going on about the sudden change of mind among Republicans once it became clear that Biden was going to win the presidency, that they would confirm Trump's appointee to the Federal Reserve, Judy Shelton, after all. Earlier this year, McConnell couldn't get her past the Senate because too many Republicans voted no citing her reckless approach to monetary policy. Now it appear Biden will win the election and suddenly the Republicans are like... "Oh... Well, let's confirm Judy after all." There's the conspiracy theory that this is a part of a Republicans effort to sabotage the government before handing it over to Biden.

I'm not necessarily giving any credence to this conspiracy theory but the fuss over it just made me wonder if a specific president's appointments can be invalidated through an act of Congress. I'm not seeing any rules against it.

And why not ALL of his appointments? I'm not talking about his cabinet... those appointments will be replaced with Biden appointments this January. I'm referring to the outside appointments like the courts.
I don't have anyone in particular in mind (so appa... (show quote)


Go for it. I'm reasonably sure you'll be waiting a while, though.

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Nov 14, 2020 02:09:14   #
woodguru
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
The Federal Judiciary is a lifetime appointment.


Except in cases where formal complaints are filed. Kavanaugh had unresolved formal complaints that were not addressed as they should have been. A senate paying attention would have deferred a confirmation pending a resolve by the judicial review board.

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