Some facts to consider when thinking about political violence in the US.
working class stiff wrote:
Numbers don't lie? Really? Why do you trust these numbers? Its a serious question.
Rose42 wrote:
Numbers don't lie? Really? Why do you trust these numbers? Its a serious question.
When a group makes up the definition of who fits into a particular category and what constitutes an act of violence it is easy to manipulate the numbers.
They are going back as far as 26 years to site these stories...all from KNOWN leftist publications!!! If you are willing to do the research with an agenda in mind...just like statistics, you can probably prove any agenda you want with a little history & a twist!
Of course, there are extremists on both sides! Lots of unbalanced, maniacal nuts in any society! The more the MSM glorifies these people and makes them out to be some kind of heroes, they more they will come out of the woodwork! Then there are organizations that paying these poor souls to do their dirty work for them and create more havoc & chaos...the liberal left thrives on chaos because they cannot fight in the world of ideas and realistic political platforms, they have nothing left but to create more chaos and try to frighten people into remission to their way of thinking!
The ONLY PURPOSE this type of material serves is to rile up more people for a particular cause! Meaningless, nonsensical excuses all in the name of journalism!! There are no journalists left in this nation...they are all POLITICAL ACTIVISTS NOW!
Liberty Tree wrote:
When a group makes up the definition of who fits into a particular category and what constitutes an act of violence it is easy to manipulate the numbers.
Exactly. Some white idiot kills someone he’s a white supremest. They tie him to the right. I’m of the right. Former tea party member. We didn’t have any white supremest’s in our group. It isn’t White Supremest’s burning down cities and looting no matter how much they want to spin it.
working class stiff wrote:
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You ain’t seen nothing yet.
working class stiff wrote:
All the violence is coming from the left. Fear the left and the deep state. In politics it's called fomenting hatred to create a totalitarian state.
Liberty Tree wrote:
When a group makes up the definition of who fits into a particular category and what constitutes an act of violence it is easy to manipulate the numbers.
Show me some different data. I used multiple sources, you used none.
You have no data to manipulate, just an assertion of 'nya..ah'.
JFlorio wrote:
Exactly. Some white idiot kills someone he’s a white supremest. They tie him to the right. I’m of the right. Former tea party member. We didn’t have any white supremest’s in our group. It isn’t White Supremest’s burning down cities and looting no matter how much they want to spin it.
Yeah, that's the information all those sources I put up used. Same challenge as to liberty tree.....refute the assertions with evidence.
Rose42 wrote:
Numbers don't lie? Really? Why do you trust these numbers? Its a serious question.
I trust the numbers because I pay attention. I'm going to start with three:
Oklahoma City
Charleston SC
El Paso Tx
200 dead right there. Their manifestos identify them as right wing extremists. No equivalence from the left.
Auntie Dee wrote:
They are going back as far as 26 years to site these stories...all from KNOWN leftist publications!!! If you are willing to do the research with an agenda in mind...just like statistics, you can probably prove any agenda you want with a little history & a twist!
Of course, there are extremists on both sides! Lots of unbalanced, maniacal nuts in any society! The more the MSM glorifies these people and makes them out to be some kind of heroes, they more they will come out of the woodwork! Then there are organizations that paying these poor souls to do their dirty work for them and create more havoc & chaos...the liberal left thrives on chaos because they cannot fight in the world of ideas and realistic political platforms, they have nothing left but to create more chaos and try to frighten people into remission to their way of thinking!
The ONLY PURPOSE this type of material serves is to rile up more people for a particular cause! Meaningless, nonsensical excuses all in the name of journalism!! There are no journalists left in this nation...they are all POLITICAL ACTIVISTS NOW!
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Feel free to refute what I put up. Do the research with your own agenda in mind. See if you can link the Pittsburg synagogue bombing to the left.
I find it funny that you think liberals cannot fight in the world of ideas because there is a ton of name calling and ad hominem that the right passes off as reasoning. We literally have nothing to fight against anymore.
drlarrygino wrote:
All the violence is coming from the left. Fear the left and the deep state. In politics it's called fomenting hatred to create a totalitarian state.
You oughtta know about fomenting hatred to create a totalitarian state.
Refute the evidence presented with more than 'you're wrong'.
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You ain’t seen nothing yet.
Feel free to expand. Are you predicting more right wing violence? More political violence by both sides?
What am I looking for?
working class stiff wrote:
I trust the numbers because I pay attention. I'm going to start with three:
Oklahoma City
Charleston SC
El Paso Tx
200 dead right there. Their manifestos identify them as right wing extremists. No equivalence from the left.
You pay attention to what the MSM reports you mean? Like the covid numbers? You think these riots are spontaneous? That BLM is really about 'social justice'? Oh yes there's equivalence from the left. Very much so. But why so readily believe institutions and agencies that lie to us? It makes no sense.
In reality, they are just whackos. Its specious to paint either the right or the left as more dangerous. The reality is we are being played and people are believing it.
Rose42 wrote:
You pay attention to what the MSM reports you mean? Like the covid numbers? You think these riots are spontaneous? That BLM is really about 'social justice'? Oh yes there's equivalence from the left. Very much so. But why so readily believe institutions and agencies that lie to us? It makes no sense.
In reality, they are just whackos. Its specious to paint either the right or the left as more dangerous. The reality is we are being played and people are believing it.
You have any other sources that deny the perpetrators very own manifestos? Business Insider, Forbes, CSIS, and the ADL are MSM? Your response is an exercise in deflection. What sources do you use? I don't see a one refuting the statistics.
While very eager to ascribe violent intent to the left, the right seems to be in total denial about the violence of their own.
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