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Aug 30, 2020 11:29:49   #
jeff smith
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
See this is a major problem that plagues the conservates until this very day. From 1900 until I would say about 1990 the conservatives had absolute power worldwide. With that being said, that very power destroyed them. But since the conservatives in the majority of them has a conscience they began to listen to the liberals and the new group progressives and allowed them some power.

The comparison of Hitler to Trump is a comparison of apples to oranges in the respect that it is the liberal-progressive movement that is going too far. Examples of this are seen in the extremes.

In Hitler's time negros were called negros and marriage was intended to build large families for the survival of the family. Life expecency was low say around 50 and conservativism was King.

The right wing of Europe in elite circles dreamt of uniting all of Europe as was done under Rome. Napoleon tried but was defeated. Now, Hitler rose to power in part because Europe punished Germany for world war 1. And left the country in ruins, so Hitler comes on the scene promising a better life for Germans and getting them out of poverty.

But Hitler took from the people power and became drunk with blood. He massacred many Jews that when the war was over Jews left reminders of Hitler's rule such that the world will know of the atrocities he committed.

This is a far contrast of what Trump is doing. Following what Trump has done is that he freed America from the chains of regulations that caused our poverty. From Bush Sr. To Obama we suffered at the hands of terrorists and tyrantical leaders dictating our lives and the way we think. So from 1992 until 2016 we entered a change in social norms and economic norms. By the time Trump was elected, the condition of insolence grew.

Each day from 1992 until 2020 we experienced a change in communication the internet was born. But slowly we lost our freedoms to buercrats that stole our money and began to dictate how we think.

Trump destroyed all of that. Unlike Hitler Trump gave our freedom back to us. So this thesis has been destroyed.
See this is a major problem that plagues the conse... (show quote)


GOOD

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Aug 30, 2020 11:31:22   #
jeff smith
 
Milosia wrote:
Great post!
It’s wasted here, though.
If you tell them they’re standing in quicksand they’ll just call you a Liar.


you aint kiding . democratic followers are just puppets on the string .

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Aug 30, 2020 14:15:07   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
JoyV wrote:
While I agree with more than half of you wrote, there are some inaccuracies. The progressive movement started far earlier. Woodrow Wilson was an admitted progressive. The progressive movement started even earlier in Europe. The swing towards conservatism was in response to the progressive policies which were one contributing factor leading to WWII, both by the left in general and by the leadership in Germany before Hitler came to power. Of course the depression hit Germany even harder than the rest of Europe due to the extreme reparations they were paying. But without the depression, their conditions may have been tolerable to the majority of Germans.

Socialism was on the rise throughout Europe including Germany. But Hitler saw Marxism as flawed Socialism and took to "perfect" Socialism to his ideal. The national socialists were still socialists, but were definitely not Marxists.


You also seem to use progressive and liberal interchangeably. They were and are two different but overlapping ideologies. Liberals tend to be idealistic but impractical. They often see simple solutions but not the long term consequences of implementing them. They also tend to try to convince others to what they see as truth. Progressive want to force others to accept their position. Force can be indoctrination of children, up to and including terrorism.
While I agree with more than half of you wrote, th... (show quote)


If I detailed my statement then I would write volumes but I do agree with what you wrote too.

Marxism ideas and progressive ideas are new ideas that seem to hurt the human condition. Hitler took it one way and Lennon & Stalin took it another way. Democracy is the best way. But whether the movement I s far left or far right, I feel it is bad for humanity.

We humans are both liberal and conservative. The problem is progressive which is who Marx was writing toward. Marx found a way to push and combine progressive movements and liberal movements and conservative movements.

It looks good on paper but it creates two societies....communism and fascism.

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Aug 30, 2020 14:16:36   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
jeff smith wrote:
to bad sh t for brains . you bimbo followers are the one who ARE the fascist . your a bunch of PUPPETS . waiting for your masters to pull your strings . . the name calling is nothing new to you bimbo followers . i just say things straight . NOT like you whinny bimbopuppets and your political corectness . you people do call others some foul things with your .50 cent wording . so don't sit there on your ivory tower and act as if i have done something you don't do . you socialist piece of a-s wipe .
to bad sh t for brains . you bimbo followers are t... (show quote)

Beam me up Scotty...

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Aug 30, 2020 14:17:20   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Beam me up Scotty...


Lol

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Aug 30, 2020 15:34:59   #
Tug484
 
jeff smith wrote:
if you can't tell that the msm and the bimbocratic leaders and the swamp rat rinos who hate President Trump . if you can't tell that they want to DESTROY AMERICA . then ALL OF YOU DEM. FOLLOWERS ARE AS STUPID AS I HAVE EVER THOUGHT .
YOU ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN BRAIN WASHED . IT IS THE BIMBOS AND THE RINOS WHO HAVE ALWAYS SAID THEY WILL DO THIS ,THAT AND ANYTHING ELSE TOBE ELECTED - RE-ELECTED . PROMISES , PROMISES AND MORE PROMISES , AND NEVER FULLFILING THEM . JUST LEAVE EVERY ONE HANGING AND STUCK WHERE EVER THEY WERE / ARE .
THIS PRESIDENT HAS SAID HE WILL DO THINGS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE . HE HAS DONE THAT AND YOU WHINNY SNIVELING LITTLE BRATS WNT THE COUNTRY DESTROYED WELL F --- Y -- .
I AM DONE WITH YOU SNOVALING LITTLE P--- A---S . I 'M DONE WITH IT
I WILL KEEP AN EYE FOR ONE POST . FOXTROT CHARLIE BRAVO IT'S TIME TO GO TO TOWN .
AUF WIEDERSEHEN !
YOU BRAIN DEAD F-----G BIMBOS AND YOU FOLLOWERS

WIEDERSEHN
if you can't tell that the msm and the bimbocratic... (show quote)



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Aug 30, 2020 16:18:39   #
JoyV
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
If I detailed my statement then I would write volumes but I do agree with what you wrote too.

Marxism ideas and progressive ideas are new ideas that seem to hurt the human condition. Hitler took it one way and Lennon & Stalin took it another way. Democracy is the best way. But whether the movement I s far left or far right, I feel it is bad for humanity.

We humans are both liberal and conservative. The problem is progressive which is who Marx was writing toward. Marx found a way to push and combine progressive movements and liberal movements and conservative movements.

It looks good on paper but it creates two societies....communism and fascism.
If I detailed my statement then I would write volu... (show quote)


We are basically in agreement on all but a few minor points not worth mentioning.

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Aug 30, 2020 16:27:07   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
JoyV wrote:
We are basically in agreement on all but a few minor points not worth mentioning.


Agreed

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Aug 31, 2020 00:29:04   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia wrote:
It was a documentary on Fascism and the Nazis in Europe.
They all said the same thing,
“ it couldn’t happen here!”
That was right before they were hip deep in Nazis.

It wasn’t left wing anything.
It was a fact based documentary.
PBS is Koch Brothers influenced, now.


The Koch Brothers were not conservatives, they were libertarians. They were for more freedom and less government.

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Sep 1, 2020 00:15:21   #
jeff smith
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Beam me up Scotty...


to bad there isn't a way to beam ALL of you puppets to another world . then you could have your socialist government .
as i have asked others , with NO reply , go live in a socialist country for a few years . then come back and tell us of your desires of turning America into a similar country . i am sure your idea of a socialist America , will be trashed by then .
i will give credit . socializum looks excelent on paper . BUT , the only people that benifit from it are the ruling class and their wealthy friends . the rest of the people are left behind . you get to stand in lines basicaly every where to get the things that are needed . food , doctors if you can get in before you give up the goast , for gas , what ever .
tell me , why do people that live in socialist countries do what ever they can to leave those countries to come to America ? do they do it because they want to change America , into a socialist / communist country ? OR , just maybe , they come here to escape the endless dredgery of having NOTHING to talk about . no future , no real adequate health care , standing in lines most every day for needed things , being looked down upon by the elitist and rulers who pretend to care about the every day people , like you the people next door , the people in the next town or any where in the nation . just as a guise to pretend to care as long as they can KEEP taking every ones money in TAXES to pay for all of the services you should be able to use ? yet aren't .
seems pretty similar to the bimbocratic leadership to me .
look at N.Y. Il. N.J. WA. CA. What do all of these states have in common ? they are and have been run by bimbocrats . and where are they at ? there ALL on the verge of BANKRUPTCY . TAX , TAX, TAX and TAX some more . what do the people get for ALL of THOSE TAXES ? not much . the leadership take it and gives it to programs that are entended to KEEP PEOPLE in need . need more to live on need more and better health care , need more to keep the lights on the gass on , and on and on it goes .
then you have bimbos creating sactuary cities / counties . what for ? to BUY MORE VOTES . the bimbos already have tried to pass bills to allow imigrantes the right to vote . don't have to be a citizen but they want them to be able to vote . what a CROCK .
this is your NEW BIMBOCRATIC , SOCIALIST / COMMUNIST PARTY . run by a bunch of power hungry things .
if you think this is B.S. then tell me . Where did RUSSIAN COLLUSION go to ? What happened to the impeachment ? for nearly 3.5 years and ongoing the bimbos , espesially bug eyed schiff , humpty dumpty nadler and fancy prancy pe lose . THERE IS PROOF OF COLLUSION . then , THERE IS PROOF OF QUID PRO QUO . impeach , impeach . all just to satisfy the base . we tried , he's just to slippery and keeps getting away . ever stop to think , that even ALL of the liberal news media , every day , HE'S GUILTY THEY HAVE PROOF ,
WOW , turs out it was ALL based on LIES they the bimbocratic leaders along with their hit people called the liberal news media " was craming down every ones throat , day after day .
you want a quid pro quo ? there IS a vidio tape of , who i call , sleepy dopey china joe , stating , "you want this money , FIRE that procecuter looking into burisma , if not you DO NOT GET THIS MONEY .
supposedly it was said that the attourny " was corrupt " according to joe and a couple of E.U. officials . BUT i question the validity of their comments . POSSABLY it is the E.U. officials the President of Ukraine AND sleepy dopey china joe who are the ones that are corupt . not the attourny that got canned . birds of a feather flock together .
look at the trash the bimbos have in office , a muslime and 3 anti Americans . along with a socialist and others who want to change the way this country is run . WHY? if you ever read the constitution , the bill of rights ? maybe you should if you haven't . it has set the frame work of a great nation . yep we still have a ways to go before EVERY ONE is treated EQUALLY . but we aint nowhere as we use to be . black lives matter . well i don't give a damn what color your skin is ALL LIVES MATTER . ever read the thing that blm , wrote up ? might want to take a look at that some day also . they don't seem to give to much for America .
as i said before , socializum looks good on paper . but that's as far as it goes for us working people .

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Sep 1, 2020 01:28:30   #
Tug484
 
jeff smith wrote:
to bad there isn't a way to beam ALL of you puppets to another world . then you could have your socialist government .
as i have asked others , with NO reply , go live in a socialist country for a few years . then come back and tell us of your desires of turning America into a similar country . i am sure your idea of a socialist America , will be trashed by then .
i will give credit . socializum looks excelent on paper . BUT , the only people that benifit from it are the ruling class and their wealthy friends . the rest of the people are left behind . you get to stand in lines basicaly every where to get the things that are needed . food , doctors if you can get in before you give up the goast , for gas , what ever .
tell me , why do people that live in socialist countries do what ever they can to leave those countries to come to America ? do they do it because they want to change America , into a socialist / communist country ? OR , just maybe , they come here to escape the endless dredgery of having NOTHING to talk about . no future , no real adequate health care , standing in lines most every day for needed things , being looked down upon by the elitist and rulers who pretend to care about the every day people , like you the people next door , the people in the next town or any where in the nation . just as a guise to pretend to care as long as they can KEEP taking every ones money in TAXES to pay for all of the services you should be able to use ? yet aren't .
seems pretty similar to the bimbocratic leadership to me .
look at N.Y. Il. N.J. WA. CA. What do all of these states have in common ? they are and have been run by bimbocrats . and where are they at ? there ALL on the verge of BANKRUPTCY . TAX , TAX, TAX and TAX some more . what do the people get for ALL of THOSE TAXES ? not much . the leadership take it and gives it to programs that are entended to KEEP PEOPLE in need . need more to live on need more and better health care , need more to keep the lights on the gass on , and on and on it goes .
then you have bimbos creating sactuary cities / counties . what for ? to BUY MORE VOTES . the bimbos already have tried to pass bills to allow imigrantes the right to vote . don't have to be a citizen but they want them to be able to vote . what a CROCK .
this is your NEW BIMBOCRATIC , SOCIALIST / COMMUNIST PARTY . run by a bunch of power hungry things .
if you think this is B.S. then tell me . Where did RUSSIAN COLLUSION go to ? What happened to the impeachment ? for nearly 3.5 years and ongoing the bimbos , espesially bug eyed schiff , humpty dumpty nadler and fancy prancy pe lose . THERE IS PROOF OF COLLUSION . then , THERE IS PROOF OF QUID PRO QUO . impeach , impeach . all just to satisfy the base . we tried , he's just to slippery and keeps getting away . ever stop to think , that even ALL of the liberal news media , every day , HE'S GUILTY THEY HAVE PROOF ,
WOW , turs out it was ALL based on LIES they the bimbocratic leaders along with their hit people called the liberal news media " was craming down every ones throat , day after day .
you want a quid pro quo ? there IS a vidio tape of , who i call , sleepy dopey china joe , stating , "you want this money , FIRE that procecuter looking into burisma , if not you DO NOT GET THIS MONEY .
supposedly it was said that the attourny " was corrupt " according to joe and a couple of E.U. officials . BUT i question the validity of their comments . POSSABLY it is the E.U. officials the President of Ukraine AND sleepy dopey china joe who are the ones that are corupt . not the attourny that got canned . birds of a feather flock together .
look at the trash the bimbos have in office , a muslime and 3 anti Americans . along with a socialist and others who want to change the way this country is run . WHY? if you ever read the constitution , the bill of rights ? maybe you should if you haven't . it has set the frame work of a great nation . yep we still have a ways to go before EVERY ONE is treated EQUALLY . but we aint nowhere as we use to be . black lives matter . well i don't give a damn what color your skin is ALL LIVES MATTER . ever read the thing that blm , wrote up ? might want to take a look at that some day also . they don't seem to give to much for America .
as i said before , socializum looks good on paper . but that's as far as it goes for us working people .
to bad there isn't a way to beam ALL of you puppet... (show quote)



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