Thoughts - Possible? COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Before China GICexpat The novel coronavirus has taken the world by storm and in unpredictable ways, affecting some...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Before China
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The novel coronavirus has taken the world by storm and in unpredictable ways, affecting some severely and gravely while leaving nothing but a short-lived headache for others. Although there are still aspects of this virus that remain unknown, there is growing evidence that COVID-19 may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favorable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert from Oxford University believes.

Dr. Tom Jefferson, an expert from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia to reveal its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favorable conditions to finally emerge.

Based on such conditions, viruses can disappear as quickly as they emerge. “Where did SARS 1 go?” asked Jefferson. “It kind of just disappeared. It’s important to think about these things and start researching the ecology of viruses, understand how they originate, and how they mutate.”

He went on to add, “I think COVID-19 was already here — here meaning everywhere, not just in China. It’s very possible that it was a dormant virus that was eventually awaken by specific environmental conditions. The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for.”

Back in early February, one COVID-19 case was found in the Falkland Islands, a remote South Atlantic archipelago on the Patagonian shelf, southeast of Argentina, which was traced back to a cruise ship sailing from South Georgia to Buenos Aires. Only on Day 8, when they had already begun sailing towards the Weddell Sea near Antartica, was the case identified. “Where did that case infection come from?” Jefferson asked. “Could it have been in the pre-cooked food that had been defrosted, thereby activating the dormant virus?”

“Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world.”

According to a recent report on the digital publication ‘Science Focus’, traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China.

A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed yet, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from March 12, 2019. The Italian National Institute of Health also announced in June that sewage water from Milan and Turin showed coronavirus traces dating back to December 18, long before the country's first confirmed cases.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Before China
GICexpat

The novel coronavirus has taken the world by storm and in unpredictable ways, affecting some severely and gravely while leaving nothing but a short-lived headache for others. Although there are still aspects of this virus that remain unknown, there is growing evidence that COVID-19 may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favorable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert from Oxford University believes.

Dr. Tom Jefferson, an expert from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia to reveal its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favorable conditions to finally emerge.

Based on such conditions, viruses can disappear as quickly as they emerge. “Where did SARS 1 go?” asked Jefferson. “It kind of just disappeared. It’s important to think about these things and start researching the ecology of viruses, understand how they originate, and how they mutate.”

He went on to add, “I think COVID-19 was already here — here meaning everywhere, not just in China. It’s very possible that it was a dormant virus that was eventually awaken by specific environmental conditions. The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for.”

Back in early February, one COVID-19 case was found in the Falkland Islands, a remote South Atlantic archipelago on the Patagonian shelf, southeast of Argentina, which was traced back to a cruise ship sailing from South Georgia to Buenos Aires. Only on Day 8, when they had already begun sailing towards the Weddell Sea near Antartica, was the case identified. “Where did that case infection come from?” Jefferson asked. “Could it have been in the pre-cooked food that had been defrosted, thereby activating the dormant virus?”

“Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world.”

According to a recent report on the digital publication ‘Science Focus’, traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China.

A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed yet, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from March 12, 2019. The Italian National Institute of Health also announced in June that sewage water from Milan and Turin showed coronavirus traces dating back to December 18, long before the country's first confirmed cases.

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Bullshit........this crap came from China and we should nuke those blinkin' chinks straight to hell.

Before we banned travel, those little slants were every damn where.

We should never allow another Chinese chink to enter this country and we should round up all the Chinese chinks that are already here and catapult their @$$€$ back to Chinkland.

Capt-jack Loc: Home

Wolf counselor wrote:

Bullshit........this crap came from China and we should nuke those blinkin' chinks straight to hell.

Before we banned travel, those little slants were every damn where.

We should never allow another Chinese chink to enter this country and we should round up all the Chinese chinks that are already here and catapult their @$$€$ back to Chinkland.

Seth

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Before China
GICexpat

The novel coronavirus has taken the world by storm and in unpredictable ways, affecting some severely and gravely while leaving nothing but a short-lived headache for others. Although there are still aspects of this virus that remain unknown, there is growing evidence that COVID-19 may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favorable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert from Oxford University believes.

Dr. Tom Jefferson, an expert from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia to reveal its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favorable conditions to finally emerge.

Based on such conditions, viruses can disappear as quickly as they emerge. “Where did SARS 1 go?” asked Jefferson. “It kind of just disappeared. It’s important to think about these things and start researching the ecology of viruses, understand how they originate, and how they mutate.”

He went on to add, “I think COVID-19 was already here — here meaning everywhere, not just in China. It’s very possible that it was a dormant virus that was eventually awaken by specific environmental conditions. The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for.”

Back in early February, one COVID-19 case was found in the Falkland Islands, a remote South Atlantic archipelago on the Patagonian shelf, southeast of Argentina, which was traced back to a cruise ship sailing from South Georgia to Buenos Aires. Only on Day 8, when they had already begun sailing towards the Weddell Sea near Antartica, was the case identified. “Where did that case infection come from?” Jefferson asked. “Could it have been in the pre-cooked food that had been defrosted, thereby activating the dormant virus?”

“Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world.”

According to a recent report on the digital publication ‘Science Focus’, traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China.

A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed yet, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from March 12, 2019. The Italian National Institute of Health also announced in June that sewage water from Milan and Turin showed coronavirus traces dating back to December 18, long before the country's first confirmed cases.

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Ah, still another theory from another expert.

My Canadianese friend, since the debut of Covid-19 on the world stage, "experts" have been coming out of the woodwork, some seemingly devoted to their own scientific theories, others coming from the junction of science and politics, others all politics all the time and still others more than obviously accepting gratuities from one pharmaceutical company or another.

My own perspective -- you might have noticed my absence from commenting on threads related to Corona virus -- is one of wait and see, because there's simply too much theory traffic out there from too many "experts" for anyone who is not a doctor or biologist directly involved in researching Covid-19 to have 100%, or even 50%, accurate knowledge on the virus.

That said, whatever the truth is, all I see is an opportunity taken by globalists and their Democrat allies in America to use the virus to attack the economies of developed nations.

I come in contact with people all the time here in the Los Angeles area and have yet to meet a single person who has tested positive for the virus.

That said, I tend to agree at least to some extent with Wolf Counselor that this latest theory you have posted could well have been started as an attempted "save" for the beleaguered Chinese Communist Party and its minions.

Chalk it up to three months' worth of accumulated cynicism.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Seth wrote:

Ah, still another theory from another expert. br ... (show quote)

We have similar feelings concerning the piece... And China is certainly touting the article...

You chose California

What happened to Arizona??

billy a Loc: South Florida

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Before China
GICexpat

The novel coronavirus has taken the world by storm and in unpredictable ways, affecting some severely and gravely while leaving nothing but a short-lived headache for others. Although there are still aspects of this virus that remain unknown, there is growing evidence that COVID-19 may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favorable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert from Oxford University believes.

Dr. Tom Jefferson, an expert from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia to reveal its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favorable conditions to finally emerge.

Based on such conditions, viruses can disappear as quickly as they emerge. “Where did SARS 1 go?” asked Jefferson. “It kind of just disappeared. It’s important to think about these things and start researching the ecology of viruses, understand how they originate, and how they mutate.”

He went on to add, “I think COVID-19 was already here — here meaning everywhere, not just in China. It’s very possible that it was a dormant virus that was eventually awaken by specific environmental conditions. The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for.”

Back in early February, one COVID-19 case was found in the Falkland Islands, a remote South Atlantic archipelago on the Patagonian shelf, southeast of Argentina, which was traced back to a cruise ship sailing from South Georgia to Buenos Aires. Only on Day 8, when they had already begun sailing towards the Weddell Sea near Antartica, was the case identified. “Where did that case infection come from?” Jefferson asked. “Could it have been in the pre-cooked food that had been defrosted, thereby activating the dormant virus?”

“Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world.”

According to a recent report on the digital publication ‘Science Focus’, traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China.

A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed yet, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from March 12, 2019. The Italian National Institute of Health also announced in June that sewage water from Milan and Turin showed coronavirus traces dating back to December 18, long before the country's first confirmed cases.

COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Befo... (show quote)

Hi, C.D. - Yet another interesting theory/proposal regarding the facts behind covid-19.
I, personally, have become jaded, and for now, uninterested in any "news" regarding the whole shootin'-match.
I could spend my days researching many of the conflicting "facts", and end up where I started...uninformed.
Or I can take the steps my Mother taught me sixty years ago (clean my hands, cover my mouth/face when I cough/sneeze, etc.)
I'm staying with what has been working. This abrupt change in our lives, the destruction of economies, drug and alcohol abuse... all of it just feels wrong. I'm living my life as close to a year ago as possible. But that's just me.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

billy a wrote:

Hi, C.D. - Yet another interesting theory/proposal... (show quote)

I'm glad you're strong... And safe..

Lots of conflicting information out there....

Hard to process it all...

Seth

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

We have similar feelings concerning the piece... And China is certainly touting the article...

You chose California

What happened to Arizona??

Still boat sitting while my colleague fulfills an extended contract overseas. When he finally drags his tired butt back here, I'll be headed across the state line like a shot, the most beautiful sight in the world California in my rearview mirror.

In the meantime, I'm just coping with the toughness of the opportunity to go for nice leisurely sails and enjoy summer sea breezes. A lot of people don't know about a SoCal condition called June Gloom, wherein June is mostly overcast and chilly -- that seems to be over now with a hot, sunny July upon us.

So I'm just grinning and bearing it as I dwell aboard this 42' Marlow Hunter sailboat. Lot of chores to keep me busy, but the sailing makes up for it. I've taken trips as far south as northern Mexico and not long ago round tripped it to San Francisco, though I only hung out for a day and stayed in the Marina district, lunch with friends, etc.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

COVID-19 May Have Been Dormant Globally, Long Before China
GICexpat

The novel coronavirus has taken the world by storm and in unpredictable ways, affecting some severely and gravely while leaving nothing but a short-lived headache for others. Although there are still aspects of this virus that remain unknown, there is growing evidence that COVID-19 may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favorable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert from Oxford University believes.

Dr. Tom Jefferson, an expert from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia to reveal its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favorable conditions to finally emerge.

Based on such conditions, viruses can disappear as quickly as they emerge. “Where did SARS 1 go?” asked Jefferson. “It kind of just disappeared. It’s important to think about these things and start researching the ecology of viruses, understand how they originate, and how they mutate.”

He went on to add, “I think COVID-19 was already here — here meaning everywhere, not just in China. It’s very possible that it was a dormant virus that was eventually awaken by specific environmental conditions. The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for.”

Back in early February, one COVID-19 case was found in the Falkland Islands, a remote South Atlantic archipelago on the Patagonian shelf, southeast of Argentina, which was traced back to a cruise ship sailing from South Georgia to Buenos Aires. Only on Day 8, when they had already begun sailing towards the Weddell Sea near Antartica, was the case identified. “Where did that case infection come from?” Jefferson asked. “Could it have been in the pre-cooked food that had been defrosted, thereby activating the dormant virus?”

“Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world.”

According to a recent report on the digital publication ‘Science Focus’, traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China.

A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed yet, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from March 12, 2019. The Italian National Institute of Health also announced in June that sewage water from Milan and Turin showed coronavirus traces dating back to December 18, long before the country's first confirmed cases.

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It could have been released by melting permafrost in Alaska, or melting tundra in Siberia.

Capt-jack Loc: Home

Seth wrote:

Still boat sitting while my colleague fulfills an ... (show quote)

Sounds great! I once owned a Tayana 42 cutter. Sailed it around the world and went through the Panama Canal 3 times. Wish I still had it, out at sea there is little BS news to mess up your mind. May the wind only blow in your back door.

Seth

lpnmajor wrote:

It could have been released by melting permafrost in Alaska, or melting tundra in Siberia.

Why would anyone want to take a Leftist all the way to Alaska just to melt him?

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Seth wrote:

Why would anyone want to take a Leftist all the way to Alaska just to melt him?

To earn mileage points.

Seth

Capt-jack wrote:

Sounds great! I once owned a Tayana 42 cutter. Sailed it around the world and went through the Panama Canal 3 times. Wish I still had it, out at sea there is little BS news to mess up your mind. May the wind only blow in your back door.

Thanks.

Sailing through the Canal Zone would be be awesome -- I've been through the canal aboard a couple of Coast Guard cutters, we're talking over 40 years ago, but aboard a smaller craft would be a great experience.

There's definitely a good thing about getting away from shore -- leaving all the BS behind.

Seth

lpnmajor wrote:

To earn mileage points.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Seth wrote:

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Holy crumb is that 42’ sail an extraordinarily beautiful boat!!!! All natural finely finished woods port to starboard l could live on it for good!! What a cruiser she is!!!

The visual of it sailing ever so calmly against the waves breaking about and hearing it something well worth your time..I envy you splashing about the waters, feeling that warm summer breeze along with the sun warming your inner self bringing a smile only felt when on the water of energy and peace.....And the soul unites, one, within~~

Just stellar!!!!!👏🏻👏🏻✨