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July 2 and Our Founding Fathers
Jul 2, 2020 10:33:14   #
JimMe
 
Our Founding Fathers voted unanimously for Independence on July 2, 1776, and they honestly thought July 2nd would be the Nation's Birthday... However, for whatever reason, it was dated July 4, 1776 (and no, the 4th wasn't the day they signed it, that was August 2, 1776, and even then not all of the Delegates signed it on that day, the last to sign was in January 1777), and this is the date We Celebrate...

My source is: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2005/nr05-83.html#

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Jul 2, 2020 10:46:21   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
JimMe wrote:
Our Founding Fathers voted unanimously for Independence on July 2, 1776, and they honestly thought July 2nd would be the Nation's Birthday... However, for whatever reason, it was dated July 4, 1776 (and no, the 4th wasn't the day they signed it, that was August 2, 1776, and even then not all of the Delegates signed it on that day, the last to sign was in January 1777), and this is the date We Celebrate...

My source is: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2005/nr05-83.html#


You are absolutely correct. The reason it was dated July 4th is because it had to be printed up and it took a couple of days in those days. The printing day and voting day got mixed up somehow.

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Jul 2, 2020 10:49:34   #
Cuda2020
 
JimMe wrote:
Our Founding Fathers voted unanimously for Independence on July 2, 1776, and they honestly thought July 2nd would be the Nation's Birthday... However, for whatever reason, it was dated July 4, 1776 (and no, the 4th wasn't the day they signed it, that was August 2, 1776, and even then not all of the Delegates signed it on that day, the last to sign was in January 1777), and this is the date We Celebrate...

My source is: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2005/nr05-83.html#


Interesting but doesn't really matter much. We don't celebrate Jesus's birthday on the right day either.

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Jul 2, 2020 11:03:51   #
JimMe
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Interesting but doesn't really matter much. We don't celebrate Jesus's birthday on the right day either.



But Jesus didn't have anyone or any angel proclaim Jesus' Birthday as the day to Celebrate... Our Nation's Founding Fathers did... John Adams openly stated July 2, 1776 would be Celebrated as Our Independence Day... This is the difference...

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Jul 2, 2020 12:57:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Interesting but doesn't really matter much. We don't celebrate Jesus's birthday on the right day either.


There is no Biblical requirement to celebrate Jesus' birthday at all. There was no such thing as Christmas until 336 AD. During the 4th century AD, Mithraism was serious competition for Christianity. Christmas was a compromise celebrating the birth of Jesus on the day that Mithra was supposedly born. (For that matter, the only time Easter is mentioned in the Bible is in the King James version in Acts 12:4 It has nothing to do with the resurrection.)

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Jul 2, 2020 15:25:23   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
JimMe wrote:
Our Founding Fathers voted unanimously for Independence on July 2, 1776, and they honestly thought July 2nd would be the Nation's Birthday... However, for whatever reason, it was dated July 4, 1776 (and no, the 4th wasn't the day they signed it, that was August 2, 1776, and even then not all of the Delegates signed it on that day, the last to sign was in January 1777), and this is the date We Celebrate...

My source is: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2005/nr05-83.html#


July 2nd fell on a weekend that year.

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Jul 3, 2020 11:31:51   #
kemmer
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
There is no Biblical requirement to celebrate Jesus' birthday at all. There was no such thing as Christmas until 336 AD. During the 4th century AD, Mithraism was serious competition for Christianity. Christmas was a compromise celebrating the birth of Jesus on the day that Mithra was supposedly born. (For that matter, the only time Easter is mentioned in the Bible is in the King James version in Acts 12:4 It has nothing to do with the resurrection.)

Jesus was born in the spring anyway. Ancient peoples needed a mid-winter break, so...voila! Christmas.

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Jul 3, 2020 12:10:34   #
JimMe
 
lpnmajor wrote:
July 2nd fell on a weekend that year.



Also, the Declaration had to passed before the final draft could be written... And Thomas Jefferson did this by hand... It could very well have taken 2 days for him to check over all that needed to be said, determine how to say it, and write it out in longhand...

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