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Jul 14, 2014 08:48:25   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Tasine wrote:
A great post, Ranger. Thank you for collating all the crimes and breaches of Presidential power - it will be easier to get at now.
You've outlined it for us - BUT an outline without an action is nothing but an outline.

I've begun to think differently on this entire set of problems with Obie. I think he has dramatically shown America, the world, how easy it is to overcome a country that operates under rule of law. A country operating under rule of law has trouble reacting effectively when everything he may do is against the law. Our Constitution is weak in that respect, and Obama and his thug friends KNEW that and took advantage of it. They have used our Constitution to bludgeon us over the heads. This MUST be corrected. The American people deserve a legal way to shove any politician they want to shove out WITHOUT OK of the government, and do it like TODAY. Also we must take away all the BS our federal government is engaged in for the sole purpose of having a tighter noose around our necks. Toss out the bureaus, agencies, the "tzars", etc. We don't need them, they cost us a fortune, and they add to the oppression that our government has rapidly turned to to keep us in line.

I have to assume we can get nothing done until the economy and the government collapse. As neither is helpful to us, I wish it to be sooner rather than later so we can get the show on the road - the CITIZENS' way!
A great post, Ranger. Thank you for collating all... (show quote)


As Retired 669 pointed out in another thread, even the Republican Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, the committee that would lead impeachment charges against Obama, acknowledges that Obama has not broken any laws:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/13/house-republican-shatters-conservative-dreams-of-impeachment-admits-president-obama-hasnt-broken-any-laws-video/

You and others here just look silly when you keep saying otherwise.

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Jul 14, 2014 09:27:34   #
Sicilianthing
 
America Only wrote:
Actually, any State Attorney General could issue warrants for Obama and Gang's arrest, given the circumstances.


State Attorney General in Washington? or which one?

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Jul 14, 2014 09:32:45   #
Sicilianthing
 
Bill from Laos wrote:
The Senate's Sergeant At Arms can arrest a president for crimes (sedition and high treason) confirmed by a majority vote of the Senate. Some Democrats who have turned against Obama must join the Republicans to get this job done, and redeem themselves.


I'd love to see the Senate do it...but I'm not convinced and there are life long bought and paid for members in there...
They are guilty of the same...
You have to make Congress accountable and that's the peoples Militia only
I see no other way to enforce them stepping down...
Also what branch of authority is the Sgt At Arms under ?

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Jul 14, 2014 09:33:54   #
Sicilianthing
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
As Retired 669 pointed out in another thread, even the Republican Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, the committee that would lead impeachment charges against Obama, acknowledges that Obama has not broken any laws:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/13/house-republican-shatters-conservative-dreams-of-impeachment-admits-president-obama-hasnt-broken-any-laws-video/

You and others here just look silly when you keep saying otherwise.


He's wrong, he's either part of the problem or solution...
He's bought off and paid for by them also...
He needs to go !

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Jul 14, 2014 09:36:40   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Bill from Laos wrote:
The Senate's Sergeant At Arms can arrest a president for crimes (sedition and high treason) confirmed by a majority vote of the Senate. Some Democrats who have turned against Obama must join the Republicans to get this job done, and redeem themselves.


It would be an honest to God true miracle if the Democrats EVER actually oppose one of their own.

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Jul 14, 2014 10:38:37   #
Elwood Loc: Florida
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.
Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own." ---John F Kennedy's 1961 Inaugural Speech

We the children of the people who heard this speech and believed in this speech, produced us Children of today. Therefore, I invite all of you to re-read the Constitution

Article I section 9, "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

President Obama has been identified as a "King" or "Imperial President" This is a violation of the above Article and section.

Article II section 1, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

This is a controversial issue. Barrack Obama may or may not be guilty of this. However, an Arizona politician, (I forget his name and position) did however find the proper evidence to conclude that Obama is a citizen of the United States. To this day, I am not 100% sure and neither are many citizens comfortable with the evidence presented.

Article II, section one, "Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

In various instances, he has not protected nor defended the Constitution. As stated here he has violated the constitution.

Article II section 2, "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

Barack Obama was just found guilty of violating this section of the Constitution by the Supreme Court of the United States. This is a confirmed violation.

Article II section 3, "SECTION. 3. He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

Now this is a big violation. In the case of trading the terrorists, he should have convened Congress in Closed Session and discussed the issue thus notifying Congress of the exchange. He did not do this. Therefore, it was an act of Treason, for he gave comfort and aid to the enemy in time of war.

Another count under this same statute, is he failed to defend the borders and he failed to enforce the Protection of Marriage Act. The Protection of Marriage Act was enacted by Congress and he ignored the enforcement thereof. So does that mean we can ignore the Law known as Obamacare?

Article III section three, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

President Obama released terrorists thus giving aid and comfort to the enemy. This is therefore defined as treason according to the Constitution. Now, according to the testimony of the Secretary of State and the Defense Secretary the trade was completed. This verifies and can be used as witness that the crime was committed whether they believed it was treason or not.

Article IV section 4, "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

President Barack Obama has failed to protect the State of Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas from the "Invasion of illegal immigrants" into the perspective states. This failure to protect the states on this issue lead to the formation of the law known as Arizona SB 1070 which since the Obama Administration, as a representative of the Executive enforcement portion of the Federal Government, failed to not only protect the state of Arizona, but then filed suit against the state for attempting to protecting themselves. This is an act of treason and a violation of their rights guaranteed therein this article and section.

Article VI, "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Obama has ignored the authority of the Constitution as Supreme Law of the Land, by attempting to usurp the first Amendment, with the "Individual Mandate" of the Obamacare law making Obamacare more supreme then the Constitution. The Supreme Court however has chastised him for this attempt.

First Amendment, " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

President Obama has attacked free speech, religion and the free exercise thereof, by not enforcing the Protection of Marriage Act, and Obamacare's Individual Mandate.

The tenth Amendment, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

He attempts to usurp the powers of the States and people, ie, Obamacare and Arizona SB 1070, by ignoring to enforce the law as passed by Congress. Also he says, "I've got a pen and a cell phone" arrogantly abusing his power as chief executive.

So during the Term of Barrack Obama he has violated the Constitution of the United States many times. If there is a mistake here, please let me know. If you can find any other statues within the Constitution or feel that these accusations are not warranted by all means let me know.

I am just a concerned citizen who at one time swore to "Support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies Foreign and Domestic" and according to actions seen in the newspapers, on the internet, and on tv, whether or not it is ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, Fox News or CNN, the conclusions return to the same issue.

President Barack Obama is guilty of infringement of the Constitution. And I believe that We the People should push Congress into impeachment proceedings.

Now Robert Kennedy, Attorney General of the United States and brother to John F. Kennedy said, "Stamp out injustice and prejudice wherever it lies."

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, "The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges." in his speech, I have a dream.

"In the unending battle between diversity and dogmatism, between tolerance and tyranny, let no one mistake the American position. We deeply believe that humanity is on the verge of an age of greatness – and we do not propose to let the possibilities of that greatness be overwhelmed by those who would lock us all into the narrow cavern of a dark and rigid system. We will defend our faith by affirmation, by argument, if necessary – and Heaven forbid that it should become necessary – by arms. It is our willingness to die for our ideals that makes it possible for these ideals to live." -Remarks by Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General of the United States, at Nihon University Tokyo, Japan Tuesday, February 6, 1962

What Say You, America? What Say You, Congress? For you too, are sons and daughters of the Kennedy's and Dr. King's generation.
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what yo... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :-D

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Jul 14, 2014 10:39:00   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I say this was good enough to send to everyone in my address book, this country is being stolen right from under our feet.


mkewlkez wrote:
Congress? They are abortions that somehow lived. :hunf: :hunf:

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Jul 14, 2014 10:40:40   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
As Retired 669 pointed out in another thread, even the Republican Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, the committee that would lead impeachment charges against Obama, acknowledges that Obama has not broken any laws:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/13/house-republican-shatters-conservative-dreams-of-impeachment-admits-president-obama-hasnt-broken-any-laws-video/

You and others here just look silly when you keep saying otherwise.


all this by one that won't even stand by the oath of office he took

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Jul 14, 2014 11:09:07   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
alex wrote:
all this by one that won't even stand by the oath of office he took

Also, WE aren't the ones lying. If truth looks silly, it says more about those who cannot recognize truth when it slaps them in the face than it does about those of us who KNOW the truth and demand something be done about it. I hope old RTF knows many republicans are going to lose their seats because they are not representing their voters - the longer this farce goes on, the worse it will be for them AND for the progs.

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Jul 14, 2014 11:45:58   #
Rebel Rob
 
Boehner is making one risky gamble IF he continues on with this lawsuit against Obama, and could easily jeopardize the whole process and/or function of the 'congressional powers' set forth in our Constitution.
If his case against Obama is even accepted by the Judicial branch, which is doubtful, and he loses the case, then he will have created what is legally referred to as 'standing', and will open the doors for any future president to abuse his, or her allotted powers granted under the 'Constitutional Separation of Powers', and that would be a tragedy, and hasten the dismantling of our basic protections against tyrannical rule.
I am a diehard Republican myself, but an American first. I detest this current regime, and would love to see Obama reined in from his haughty ego, and destructive acts/decisions/ self ordained laws, but a lawsuit appears to me to be a feeble effort, and a mere slap on the wrist.
Boehner is correct in making moves to achieve the above, but I feel he's misdirected by pursuing a lawsuit that would get delayed in the Supreme Court dockets until well after Obama was out of office, and considering the damage we'd incur in the interim, it would all be for little, or naught.
Please excuse me for dragging this out, but I believe it to be completely necessary to explain the basic workings of U.S. law for your benefit, and further understanding. I take the time only because I know of your deep concern for America, whatever your party affiliation, and trusting that you have the best of wishes for our continued success in surviving as a healthy nation.

Moving along then... What Boehner and his supporters seem to overlook is that Congress has the sole authority to make law, AND start impeachment proceedings against Obama (and his regime) . Therefore..which in the opinion of several highly regarded Constitutional attorney's, and law professors, Impeachment is the only appropriate way to handle this situation.. A law suit judgement (even IF in America's favor) would only address a few of Obama's over reaches, and still leave him in office to continue his destructive decisions during the future remaining two year duration of his presidency.
What is even more frustrating is that the Congress is divided into two sections (Representatives and Senate) and currently.the former are of a majority of Republicans, and the latter (Senate) are monopolized by Democrats.
Now, even IF the House of Rep's drafted impeachment proceedings, it would still need to be ratified, and agreed to by the Senate. At that point, any impeachment would be stopped dead unless there were enough Democrats who were to say, 'enuff is 'enuff'. That won't likely happen!
Current polls, and general opinions lately are showing America's discontent with Obama, and crew, so in order for anything major to happen .. it's imperative that the Republicans take control of the Senate at the end of this year's elections. We only need six more, I believe.
Hopefully I've explained this satisfactorily. I've done my best.. but what it seems to boil down to is that we are caught in a doldrum, and the storm is approaching. For once in our history.. there doesn't seem to be a very safe harbor for us to ride it out, and our ship may yet sink... scuttled from within.

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Jul 14, 2014 12:14:21   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Tasine wrote:
Also, WE aren't the ones lying. If truth looks silly, it says more about those who cannot recognize truth when it slaps them in the face than it does about those of us who KNOW the truth and demand something be done about it. I hope old RTF knows many republicans are going to lose their seats because they are not representing their voters - the longer this farce goes on, the worse it will be for them AND for the progs.


So you and alex and all the rest know more than the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Gotcha.

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Jul 14, 2014 12:18:38   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
So you and alex and all the rest know more than the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Gotcha.


probably

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Jul 14, 2014 12:21:56   #
Rebel Rob
 
Ret..
Some learn by experience, some by studying, and other's have to pee on an electric fence to get the point.
Obviously, some even have to do that twice.

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Jul 14, 2014 12:27:12   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Rebel Rob wrote:
Ret..
Some learn by experience, some by studying, and other's have to pee on an electric fence to get the point.
Obviously, some even have to do that twice.


was twice enough for you?

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Jul 14, 2014 12:47:10   #
Sicilianthing
 
Rebel Rob wrote:
Boehner is making one risky gamble IF he continues on with this lawsuit against Obama, and could easily jeopardize the whole process and/or function of the 'congressional powers' set forth in our Constitution.
If his case against Obama is even accepted by the Judicial branch, which is doubtful, and he loses the case, then he will have created what is legally referred to as 'standing', and will open the doors for any future president to abuse his, or her allotted powers granted under the 'Constitutional Separation of Powers', and that would be a tragedy, and hasten the dismantling of our basic protections against tyrannical rule.
I am a diehard Republican myself, but an American first. I detest this current regime, and would love to see Obama reined in from his haughty ego, and destructive acts/decisions/ self ordained laws, but a lawsuit appears to me to be a feeble effort, and a mere slap on the wrist.
Boehner is correct in making moves to achieve the above, but I feel he's misdirected by pursuing a lawsuit that would get delayed in the Supreme Court dockets until well after Obama was out of office, and considering the damage we'd incur in the interim, it would all be for little, or naught.
Please excuse me for dragging this out, but I believe it to be completely necessary to explain the basic workings of U.S. law for your benefit, and further understanding. I take the time only because I know of your deep concern for America, whatever your party affiliation, and trusting that you have the best of wishes for our continued success in surviving as a healthy nation.

Moving along then... What Boehner and his supporters seem to overlook is that Congress has the sole authority to make law, AND start impeachment proceedings against Obama (and his regime) . Therefore..which in the opinion of several highly regarded Constitutional attorney's, and law professors, Impeachment is the only appropriate way to handle this situation.. A law suit judgement (even IF in America's favor) would only address a few of Obama's over reaches, and still leave him in office to continue his destructive decisions during the future remaining two year duration of his presidency.
What is even more frustrating is that the Congress is divided into two sections (Representatives and Senate) and currently.the former are of a majority of Republicans, and the latter (Senate) are monopolized by Democrats.
Now, even IF the House of Rep's drafted impeachment proceedings, it would still need to be ratified, and agreed to by the Senate. At that point, any impeachment would be stopped dead unless there were enough Democrats who were to say, 'enuff is 'enuff'. That won't likely happen!
Current polls, and general opinions lately are showing America's discontent with Obama, and crew, so in order for anything major to happen .. it's imperative that the Republicans take control of the Senate at the end of this year's elections. We only need six more, I believe.
Hopefully I've explained this satisfactorily. I've done my best.. but what it seems to boil down to is that we are caught in a doldrum, and the storm is approaching. For once in our history.. there doesn't seem to be a very safe harbor for us to ride it out, and our ship may yet sink... scuttled from within.
Boehner is making one risky gamble IF he continues... (show quote)


Yep and that's why that too is a Constitutional Crisis Rob....
Things are getting very very testy...

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