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Jun 6, 2020 17:07:56   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It seems so simple. Native Americans have lands that belong to them, they are a nation within the USA. They have their own laws, schools, and leadership. Why not carve out another nation for blacks? I am sure the details could be worked out.

What do you think?


Are these already called Democrat-governed cities?

Because we are E Pluribus Unum (out of many, one). We don't segregate (although many people tend to do that anyway). Universities are reverting to segregation by the demands from Black Student Unions and other organizations wanting separate dorms of their own. The United States is the greatest country in the world because everyone is welcomed if they are willing to assimilate. Native Americans were already here first. Everyone else who came later knew what the game was. People are allowed to move freely.

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Jun 6, 2020 17:10:35   #
Larry Joe
 
Simple Sam wrote:
When the slave was brought to the new world they were considered a perishable goods, like spice, bananas, and flour. My question to you, how else can you describe their arrival? They are not native. They did not immigrate. Not one slave bought a ticket.


Simple Sam, a majority of all ethnic groups consider themselves just as proud Americans as you and me. There are trouble makers on both sides. I personally think there has been great strides in racial equality over the last 70 years. We aren’t there yet, but we got to keep working. What counts is the content of a person’s character, not their gender, or the color of their skin.
Larry Joe

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Jun 6, 2020 17:23:36   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
We can see how well that's working.


Kinda my point to this thread. Screaming white privilege is not a solution. Claims of the USA's original sin of slavery is not the solution. Screams of racism by anyone who happens to be white is not a solution. Screams of institutional or systematic racism is not a solution. Restitution is not a solution. Segregation into a separate area is not the solution. Minority rule of minority communities doesn't seem to a solution. Blaming and abolishing police is not a solution. Violence, burning and looting their communities is not a solution. There is really only one solution. But, what are these protesters proposing is a solution? What changes do these people think is gonna happen?

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Jun 6, 2020 18:38:37   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Just how often do you see this? Two, maybe three times a year. How many cops are murdered on duty each year? But you don’t see that on MSM, do you. Given the total number of police in this country of 333,000,000 people, and the number of arrests made daily; the number of unarmed victim deaths by police is extremely rare. And, yes, every one is a tragedy. Unfortunately, men aren’t perfect. Do you support during away with law enforcement?

Considering President Reagan’s support of our police and military, maybe you should change your handle to Bidenite.
Larry Joe
Just how often do you see this? Two, maybe three ... (show quote)


It doesn't matter how many times it happens it shouldn't happen period. This shoot first ask questions second needs to stop. There are corrupt precincts all across America. The LAPD,NYPD, Baltimore PD, D.C. PD, Atlanta PD, Detroit PD, Chicago PD,and that's just to name a few

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Jun 6, 2020 18:56:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
77Reaganite wrote:
You know what I get tired of I get tired of seeing cops shooting people who claim they say had a weapon but then when they get close to the subject after they put him in a body bag they never find a weapon and how come that officer never goes to jail for murder to me that's murder in Cold Blood it's just boggles my mind how these cops can continue to say they see weapons when there are none present and then they shoot the subject but yet nothing ever happens to them that needs to stop! I know police officers make mistakes but they don't need to be making the same mistakes over and over and over again like saying they see a weapon in there never is one that right there is just a cover your ass move so they don't get arrested for murder! Plus some of these cops are just power hungry and like to exude their Authority whenever and wherever possible we've all seen those types! What I'm about to say needs to ring loud and true if these police departments can't get their acts in order then these people need to be fired and get somebody who will follow the law
You know what I get tired of I get tired of seeing... (show quote)


Better training and higher standards, with stricter supervision, would go a long way to? solving those issues

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Jun 6, 2020 19:18:34   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
77Reaganite wrote:
It doesn't matter how many times it happens it shouldn't happen period. This shoot first ask questions second needs to stop. There are corrupt precincts all across America. The LAPD,NYPD, Baltimore PD, D.C. PD, Atlanta PD, Detroit PD, Chicago PD,and that's just to name a few


You left out Minneapolis. Corruption comes and goes depending on the leadership and whether we turn a blind eye to it, or not. LAPD was a corrupt department before WWII. After Chief Parker came in, he cleaned up the department and greatly improved not only its image but its actual operations. Subsequent Chiefs and Politicians have let it slip back and were themselves partly responsible for the disintegration of ethics on the job. I'm not going to delve into the entire history which would take days to cover. What I will say is that if you feel the departments are corrupt, and you are young and so motivated to reform these organizations, then become a law enforcement officer yourself and do it from within. There will always be bad apples in any bunch but we can minimize them by selecting people to fill positions by using higher hiring standards and continued meaningful training; not some bogus hocus-pocus charlatan who only gives a lecture or two about sexism or racism, etc.

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Jun 7, 2020 08:34:58   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It seems so simple. Native Americans have lands that belong to them, they are a nation within the USA. They have their own laws, schools, and leadership. Why not carve out another nation for blacks? I am sure the details could be worked out.

What do you think?


Detroit?

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Jun 7, 2020 09:13:41   #
ExperienceCounts
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It seems so simple. Native Americans have lands that belong to them, they are a nation within the USA. They have their own laws, schools, and leadership. Why not carve out another nation for blacks? I am sure the details could be worked out.

What do you think?


Why repeat something that didn't work the first time around. At least as I read about it, the poor schools, homes needing upgrades, and alcoholism, and diabeties are confined on the reservations. New hud housing in other sectors of the country with access to multiple doctors on the taxpayers' dime is better, and so is access to equality in schools. Affirmative action on jobs and special concessions on college entry are perks not afforded to the Indian nations on those reservations. Just how many high paying jobs are there on reservations? I don't know, do you?

At least the wealthy confine themselves behind gates with the monies obtained from the sweat of workers from all walks of life. <snark>

Why are the riots happening in the neighborhoods where the working poor have tried to make something of themselves? Why are paid troublemakers targeting the less affluent neighborhoods? Who's going after the land? Has anyone checked out the planning boards and commissioners' agendas?

If someone is so concerned about helping anyone, why do they think violence and destruction is the way? Oh, yes, that's right, the residents will be better off when they move out of those areas. Have you ever looked at pictures of destroyed areas?
No one, in any time, place, or period of history has benefited by riots or war in their neighborhoods. No one wins a war! The poor always suffer, the rich can run out of harm's way. Who wants the land where these riot's are happening?

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Jun 7, 2020 09:38:20   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Simple Sam wrote:
I am not talking segregation. I am talking about a nation just for them. No white man laws, courts, cops, businesses, schools or whatever.


You mean like Chinese tong have in China town? It does seem to work.
Initiating it could be problematic tho.

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Jun 7, 2020 10:25:05   #
fullspinzoo
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It seems so simple. Native Americans have lands that belong to them, they are a nation within the USA. They have their own laws, schools, and leadership. Why not carve out another nation for blacks? I am sure the details could be worked out.

What do you think?


You think they're overdoing it with the call of everyone on the Planet being a "racist". Do you really think this would help. IMHO, not in a million years. You know there are a lot of great, smart black people in this country. I say get with them and iron this thing out. Ask 'what can we do to obtain 'racial harmony'? We've made a lot of progress in the last 60 years, but we need to do more. Try to weed out those who are not interested but want the whole enchilada. And I mean by that, not interested in any compromises. Get rid of those promoting a civil war.

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Jun 7, 2020 10:30:30   #
debeda
 
Simple Sam wrote:
It seems so simple. Native Americans have lands that belong to them, they are a nation within the USA. They have their own laws, schools, and leadership. Why not carve out another nation for blacks? I am sure the details could be worked out.

What do you think?


Why just blacks? All Democrats. Those blacks that are regular citizens can remain so.

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Jun 7, 2020 10:46:01   #
bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Here's a new concept how about actually apprehending the subject instead of drawing your weapon first or trying to get the subject on the ground. How about an officer actually have to get an id on subject with a weapon or claiming a weapon before he can use excessive force make him physically prove that the subject has a weapon not just stating he thought he saw one and after they shot and killed the subject none is ever found.


I suggest you go to one of those police training centers, and walk through the simulator, and see how you do. I did, it was almost unnerving. These guys need to make split second decisions, and if it's your life or mine?? So easy to judge the actions of the Police, without having walked a mile in their shoes. There are bad cops. I'm still not sure why anyone would want to be one, especially in this day and age. Most cops are good people who protect and serve. So my advice to everyone, don't break the law, and your chances of living increase dramatically!!

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Jun 7, 2020 10:52:05   #
debeda
 
bestpal38 wrote:
I suggest you go to one of those police training centers, and walk through the simulator, and see how you do. I did, it was almost unnerving. These guys need to make split second decisions, and if it's your life or mine?? So easy to judge the actions of the Police, without having walked a mile in their shoes. There are bad cops. I'm still not sure why anyone would want to be one, especially in this day and age. Most cops are good people who protect and serve. So my advice to everyone, don't break the law, and your chances of living increase dramatically!!
I suggest you go to one of those police training c... (show quote)



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Jun 7, 2020 11:00:08   #
fullspinzoo
 
bestpal38 wrote:
I suggest you go to one of those police training centers, and walk through the simulator, and see how you do. I did, it was almost unnerving. These guys need to make split second decisions, and if it's your life or mine?? So easy to judge the actions of the Police, without having walked a mile in their shoes. There are bad cops. I'm still not sure why anyone would want to be one, especially in this day and age. Most cops are good people who protect and serve. So my advice to everyone, don't break the law, and your chances of living increase dramatically!!
I suggest you go to one of those police training c... (show quote)


I saw that, an example, on 'Blue Bloods'. Commissioner Frank Reagan had IG lady (played by Frasier's wife/girlfriend on "Cheers"). Anyway, she failed miserably taking the "tactical course" simulator demanding split second decisions.

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Jun 7, 2020 11:40:46   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
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