Smedley_buzkill wrote:
It isn't often I have an opportunity to talk with a legal and constitutional expert such as you seem to consider yourself. Wanna make $50? Show me anywhere in the Constitution of 1861 where secession is prohibited. Show me anywhere in statutory law as it existed in 1861 where secession was prohibited. Of course, if you take me up on this, you owe ME $50 when you cannot find it. Wanna bet? Robert E Lee was considered a non-citizen when he resigned from the Army and went home to VA. Only a citizen can be charged with treason. You aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. Of course, that is a common situation among Liberals.
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Virginia Ordinance of Secession (April 17, 1861)
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The Virginia Ordinance of Secession, dated April 17, 1861, declares that the bond between Virginia and the United States of America, under the U.S. Constitution, is dissolved. Delegates at the Virginia Convention of 1861 voted 88–55 to approve the ordinance on April 17 and a statewide referendum confirmed secession on May 23.
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An Ordinance
To repeal the ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, by the State of Virginia, and to resume all the rights and powers granted under said Constitution.
The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention, on the twenty-fifth day of June in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution, were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slaveholding States.
Now, therefore, we the people of Virginia, do declare and ordain,That the ordinance adopted by the people of this State in Convention, on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty eight, whereby the Constitution of the United States of America was ratified; and all acts of the General Assembly of this State ratifying or adopting amendments to said Constitution, are hereby repealed and abrogated; that the Union between the State of Virginia and the other States under the Constitution aforesaid is hereby dissolved, and that the State of Virginia is in the full possession and exercise of all the rights of sovereignty, which belong and appertain to a free and independent State. And they do further declare,That said Constitution of the United States of America is no longer binding on any of the Citizens of this State.
This ordinance shall take effect and be an act of this day when ratified by a majority of the votes of the people of this State, cast at a poll to be taken thereon, on the fourth Thursday in May next, in pursuance of a Schedule hereafter to be enacted
Done in Convention in the City of Richmond, on the seventeenth day of April, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-one, and in the eighty-fifth year of the Commonwealth of Virginia.
[signatures of the delegates]
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Virginia Convention of 1861
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Ordinance of Secession, 1861. Virginia. Convention (1861). Records, 1861–1961. Accession 40586. State Government Records Collection, The Library of Virginia, Richmond, Va.
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First published: June 20, 2014 | Last modified: June 25, 2015