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May 11, 2020 21:57:19   #
Seth
 
steve66613 wrote:
A person who would blame the POTUS for a virus pandemic, which originated in Communist China, is a weak-minded, politically biased, cold-hearted, inhumane, non theistic.....fool.


Lefties can't blame China for anything, though, for the simple reason that a large percentage of their politicians' corruption money, from Hunter Biden's/Chris Heinz' to the Fine Stein's to Paul Pelosi's to funding the William J. Clinton Presidential Library and bundling illegal contributions to the Hillary presidential campaigns originates or originated with the Chinese.

They don't want to bite the hand that feeds their political icons.

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May 11, 2020 22:14:13   #
steve66613
 
Seth wrote:
Lefties can't blame China for anything, though, for the simple reason that a large percentage of their politicians' corruption money, from Hunter Biden's/Chris Heinz' to the Fine Stein's to Paul Pelosi's to funding the William J. Clinton Presidential Library and bundling illegal contributions to the Hillary presidential campaigns originates or originated with the Chinese.

They don't want to bite the hand that feeds their political icons.
Lefties can't blame China for anything, though, fo... (show quote)


Have you read “Secret Empires”? Talks about the progeny of our political elite.....even the Trumps.

The Chicom monetary influence, in this country and around the world, is truly insidious and vastly dangerous!

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May 11, 2020 22:28:09   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Obama's response to Ebola was quite admirable... Although I'm no a fan of the man, I've looked into it a bit (and there have been several articles posted) and he did well

Benghazi shouldn't be mentioned... That's a terrible comparison...


Why is Benghazi not relative? The meme associates number of deaths to conservatives' response.
I stand by the comparison.

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May 11, 2020 22:31:02   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Why is Benghazi not relative? The meme associates number of deaths to conservatives' response.
I stand by the comparison.


Pretty simple. The four deaths in Benghazi were 100% preventable. The enemy wasn’t some invisible enemy that couldn’t be stopped. The Obama administration (for whatever reasons) decided those lives were expendable.

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May 11, 2020 22:36:45   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
JFlorio wrote:
Pretty simple. The four deaths in Benghazi were 100% preventable. The enemy wasn’t some invisible enemy that couldn’t be stopped. The Obama administration (for whatever reasons) decided those lives were expendable.


Hindsight is always 20/20.
I'm assuming, because of where you live, and your ultra-conservative stance, that you are older.
(I realize this may not be the case)

As far as I can tell, the current administration appears to be saying older people are expendable in this pandemic. Reopening states with no regard for the science of what could happen to vulnerable populations is a clear indication to me that some folks are less valuable than others (or money)

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May 11, 2020 22:46:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Don’t see how you can say that with a straight face. Everything Trumps done has been backed by science. The science and the models are constantly changing but the trouble with you and your ilk Is you only see two choices. Either stay at home until a vaccine is produced. Even though the average time to develop a workable vaccine is about five years. Or, open up the economy and everyone go back to work. There is a third choice. Spend most resources protecting the most vulnerable and let each state open it’s economy as they see fit. People are going to die from this virus. People Can also die from loss of income and freedoms Just basing your decision on science is stupid. Economics happen to be as important as science right now.
PaulPisces wrote:
Hindsight is always 20/20.
I'm assuming, because of where you live, and your ultra-conservative stance, that you are older.
(I realize this may not be the case)

As far as I can tell, the current administration appears to be saying older people are expendable in this pandemic. Reopening states with no regard for the science of what could happen to vulnerable populations is a clear indication to me that some folks are less valuable than others (or money)

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May 11, 2020 22:55:01   #
steve66613
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Why is Benghazi not relative? The meme associates number of deaths to conservatives' response.
I stand by the comparison.


Took a course in logic many years ago....in layman’s terms: yours is “more than a bubble off of plumb”.

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May 11, 2020 22:58:06   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Obama's response to Ebola was quite admirable... Although I'm no a fan of the man, I've looked into it a bit (and there have been several articles posted) and he did well

Benghazi shouldn't be mentioned... That's a terrible comparison...


His response to the H1N1 was less than stellar. He also neglected to replace much of the supplies used. Perhaps Trump would have done it sooner had he not been busy defending himself from spurious bullshit charges by Nancy Peeloosely et, al.

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May 11, 2020 23:05:12   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Hindsight is always 20/20.
I'm assuming, because of where you live, and your ultra-conservative stance, that you are older.
(I realize this may not be the case)

As far as I can tell, the current administration appears to be saying older people are expendable in this pandemic. Reopening states with no regard for the science of what could happen to vulnerable populations is a clear indication to me that some folks are less valuable than others (or money)


The alternative appears to be keeping everything in lockdown until so many small businesses fail that everyone starves. As I have said, the county I live in and the next county over have about 100,000 residents and about half that many transients who live elsewhere but are employed here. That is roughly 150,000 people. One death from Corona Virus. ONE. It's not how many catch it, it's how many die from it, and according to the CDC's own guidelines, if someone infected dies of a heart attack they would have had anyway, virus or no, the cause of death is still Corona Virus.
Short of living in a filtered bubble, there is not a hell of a lot to do. The masks most people wear are useless. If air can pass back and forth, so can Corona. The virus goes right through a mask when someone coughs or sneezes. It will remain airborne for a few seconds to a few minutes before it falls and lands on some surface.
Most of the people who die have other health issues that may have killed them anyway.

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May 12, 2020 01:04:09   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Why is Benghazi not relative? The meme associates number of deaths to conservatives' response.
I stand by the comparison.


One was a virus... The other was war...

It's a false comparison...

How they react to a given situation should depend on the given situation...

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May 12, 2020 01:05:06   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JFlorio wrote:
Don’t see how you can say that with a straight face. Everything Trumps done has been backed by science. The science and the models are constantly changing but the trouble with you and your ilk Is you only see two choices. Either stay at home until a vaccine is produced. Even though the average time to develop a workable vaccine is about five years. Or, open up the economy and everyone go back to work. There is a third choice. Spend most resources protecting the most vulnerable and let each state open it’s economy as they see fit. People are going to die from this virus. People Can also die from loss of income and freedoms Just basing your decision on science is stupid. Economics happen to be as important as science right now.
Don’t see how you can say that with a straight fac... (show quote)


Wearing aask is backed by science and experience...

Why isn't Trump doing it?

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May 12, 2020 01:07:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
His response to the H1N1 was less than stellar. He also neglected to replace much of the supplies used. Perhaps Trump would have done it sooner had he not been busy defending himself from spurious bullshit charges by Nancy Peeloosely et, al.


The response to H1N1 was horrific...

If other nations followed America's example they would also be about suing you...

Replacing supplies was the responsibility of the CDC...

Regardless of how is in office...

It would have behooved Trump to check on supplies back in February when he was assuring the nation that everything was ok and he was prepared...

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May 12, 2020 01:07:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Wearing aask is backed by science and experience...

Why isn't Trump doing it?


Have heard some doctors, I imagine a minority say they really don’t help. Trumps tested all the time. Like most he sees. I actually think he should wear one in public. Sets a good example. Until the science says it doesn’t.

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May 12, 2020 04:58:37   #
Seth
 
steve66613 wrote:
Have you read “Secret Empires”? Talks about the progeny of our political elite.....even the Trumps.

The Chicom monetary influence, in this country and around the world, is truly insidious and vastly dangerous!


Yup, very enlightening book.

To add, though: the Trumps, unlike Feinstein, Biden, the Clintons et al, were doing business with the Chinese as private citizens, not as corrupt elected officials using their positions on the taxpayer's dime to enrich themselves and their offspring.

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May 12, 2020 07:25:46   #
American Vet
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
He's not blaming him for the virus...

He's blaming him for his response to the virus...

Governments have responsibilities...


And he responded.

The complaints are "20/20 hindsight".

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