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May 9, 2020 19:53:50   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
This seems to me to be an emblem of what is very, very wrong in our country these days.



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May 9, 2020 20:05:25   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
This seems to me to be an emblem of what is very, very wrong in our country these days.


The black guy's story is disgusting to me at best. Turn those guys over to me for twenty four hours, and I'll explain where they were wrong to them. You can come by, and pick up what's left when I'm done.

The white guy's story is a whole different matter. It is a story of abuse of power at the highest levels.

Straights, and homos Paul.

No comparison.

Or would apples, and oranges work better?

Dogs, and cats?

Birds and horses??

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May 9, 2020 20:13:41   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
This seems to me to be an emblem of what is very, very wrong in our country these days.


The colored boy attacked a white man who was holding a shotgun.

A stupid move by all accounts.

The white General was attacked vicariously by a colored queer named Obammy who used cowardly peckerwood white boys to do his bidding.

So I'm not buying your Фигня meme.........Goobersmoocher

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May 9, 2020 20:18:56   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
archie bunker wrote:
The black guy's story is disgusting to me at best. Turn those guys over to me for twenty four hours, and I'll explain where they were wrong to them. You can come by, and pick up what's left when I'm done.

The white guy's story is a whole different matter. It is a story of abuse of power at the highest levels.

Straights, and homos Paul.

No comparison.

Or would apples, and oranges work better?

Dogs, and cats?

Birds and horses??


Arch - I’m not entirely clear if you think the murder of an unarmed black man was an OK thing or not. I hope you will clear it up for me and (hopefully, depending on how it is clarified) all will be OK between us.

The meme is about privilege, and to whom it is given. Had the jogger been anything but black he surely would not have been shot. Had Flynn been black I cannot imagine the DOJ would have dropped the case. Of course the above is speculation, which I usually think is not useful. But everything in our society these days tells me it is true.

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May 9, 2020 20:53:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PaulPisces wrote:
This seems to me to be an emblem of what is very, very wrong in our country these days.


How are their cases comparable?

My understanding is that the murder of the black fellow was gross mistake... While the conviction of the white man was also a gross mistake...

Oh... Answered my own question....

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May 9, 2020 20:57:14   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Arch - I’m not entirely clear if you think the murder of an unarmed black man was an OK thing or not. I hope you will clear it up for me and (hopefully, depending on how it is clarified) all will be OK between us.

The meme is about privilege, and to whom it is given. Had the jogger been anything but black he surely would not have been shot. Had Flynn been black I cannot imagine the DOJ would have dropped the case. Of course the above is speculation, which I usually think is not useful. But everything in our society these days tells me it is true.
Arch - I’m not entirely clear if you think the mur... (show quote)


We're good Paul.

From what I've seen, and read about it, it's absolutely NOT ok.
And, why does race play such a big part of it?

We have tweakers that run around out here, thieving, and robbing, but we don't try to chase them down, and make "citizen arrests" when they are minding their own business.
There's one of those FKers I'd really like to shoot, but you just don't do that.

The BLACK guy was confronted, and tried to defend himself against it, and was killed by those idiots. That is my understanding right now. There is no excuse for the way those morons handled it.
They deserve any punishment they get, and it will be too light in my opinion.

The WHITE guy was targeted, set up, and coerced by the highest in power in our government in order to create a narrative that has decided this country worse than its been in my lifetime.

You can say it's all lies, or right wing spin, or whatever you want, but it's there.

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May 9, 2020 23:06:52   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
archie bunker wrote:
We're good Paul.

From what I've seen, and read about it, it's absolutely NOT ok.
And, why does race play such a big part of it?

We have tweakers that run around out here, thieving, and robbing, but we don't try to chase them down, and make "citizen arrests" when they are minding their own business.
There's one of those FKers I'd really like to shoot, but you just don't do that.

The BLACK guy was confronted, and tried to defend himself against it, and was killed by those idiots. That is my understanding right now. There is no excuse for the way those morons handled it.
They deserve any punishment they get, and it will be too light in my opinion.

The WHITE guy was targeted, set up, and coerced by the highest in power in our government in order to create a narrative that has decided this country worse than its been in my lifetime.

You can say it's all lies, or right wing spin, or whatever you want, but it's there.
We're good Paul. br br From what I've seen, and ... (show quote)


Thanks for clarifying, Arch.
Our friendship, despite our differences (perhaps because of them?) is a thing of great value to me.

Our take on the Flynn case differs, but I plan on it not coming between us.

Hope you and yours are safe and healthy in these crazy times.

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May 9, 2020 23:07:56   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How are their cases comparable?

My understanding is that the murder of the black fellow was gross mistake... While the conviction of the white man was also a gross mistake...

Oh... Answered my own question....


See my note in this thread to Archie on how the two cases are related, if not precisely comparable.

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May 9, 2020 23:25:15   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Thanks for clarifying, Arch.
Our friendship, despite our differences (perhaps because of them?) is a thing of great value to me.

Our take on the Flynn case differs, but I plan on it not coming between us.

Hope you and yours are safe and healthy in these crazy times.


Thanks Paul. I appreciate, and respect that!!

And I must say that you are a breath of fresh air, and a fine example!
We don't have to agree on everything, or hate each other for the disagreements.

My life of nearly 7000 years with Mrs. B. (joking) is absolute proof of that!

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May 9, 2020 23:57:08   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
archie bunker wrote:
Thanks Paul. I appreciate, and respect that!!

And I must say that you are a breath of fresh air, and a fine example!
We don't have to agree on everything, or hate each other for the disagreements.

My life of nearly 7000 years with Mrs. B. (joking) is absolute proof of that!


hahahaha!

Ditto my 20+ years with John.


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May 10, 2020 01:59:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PaulPisces wrote:
See my note in this thread to Archie on how the two cases are related, if not precisely comparable.


I did.... I'm enjoying this thread...

I'll second everything you and Archie have said

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May 10, 2020 08:03:23   #
Bosty Loc: South jersey
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
The colored boy attacked a white man who was holding a shotgun.

A stupid move by all accounts.

The white General was attacked vicariously by a colored queer named Obammy who used cowardly peckerwood white boys to do his bidding.

So I'm not buying your Фигня meme.........Goobersmoocher



Sugar coated for your enjoyment!
But you get the point

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May 10, 2020 20:05:33   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
PaulPisces wrote:
This seems to me to be an emblem of what is very, very wrong in our country these days.


Yes, the black man's murder was a smack in the face of every decent American, and we should not stand for it. Those two committed murder and need prison for their efforts. And who ever gave them a slap on the wrist because of friendship should rot in the cell next to them.
For Flynn, the travesty is just as bad. For the FBI to lay traps for Flynn, to threaten him...whatever they did to make him confess when he knew he was innocent is every bit of an injustice as the black man's murder. Everyone involved in the sham trial of Flynn needs a cell next to the three men already mentioned.
It's as much of a slap in the face of every decent American to support the illegal actions of a few in the FBI, as much of an injustice as if they were the ones who pulled the trigger on an innocent man. No one can support the illegal actions of the FBI and claim they have any morals.

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