maryjane

I have no wish to sound hard hearted, but if our nation is going to successfully survive this and such inevitable future happenings, we, the US, must accept the inevitability of deaths of our people from viruses just as we already do for auto accidents, cancer, violence, heart attacks, etc, and not become crazy and destroy the economic future for EVERY American and our descendants. Yes, some people will always die because death is a part of life, but life must continue for the living, no matter the mourning. And, before any of you jump on me, ket me say that I am 80 years old, and when it is my time to go, from a virus or whatever, it is simply my time.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

What money? Save it for what?

The economy of the gaming industry involves a helluva lot more than just crap tables, slot machines and hookers - travel agents, bus lines, airlines, truck lines, railroads, motels, restaurants, supermarkets, grocery stores, gift shops, beauty salons, barber shops, clothing stores, jewelers, gas stations, truck stops, not to mention the infrastructure like the power company, city services, etc etc etc.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Good point. Businesses that are unpatriotic should not be allowed to conduct their business as usual. I am all for lowering the Corporate Tax Rate to encourage American Companies to return to America and be patriotic corporate citizens in addition to having the "Made in USA" tag on their product. Getting rid of immigrants could cause a serious brain drain in this country. Our education system is failing too many American students. Many leave school without any skills in addition to still having poor reading, writing, math, and self-learning skills necessary to learn new jobs. A sensible, fair, and limited immigration system is okay. The birthright babies and borders crashers should not receive anything. We, and many businesses, keep encouraging them to come for the cheap labor they provide. There are wealthy who do the right thing, keep employees and their businesses operating, paying their taxes, contributing to charity, and helping build their community is not the problem. It is, as you say, the wealthy elites more interested only in earning more money at everyone's expense, wreaking havoc on the environment, sheltering their profits from taxes by locating in other countries and hiring the cheapest labor force they can find, which are not good patriotic companies nor corporate citizens. Many of the tech companies are becoming like this. They cooperate with the Chinese Government and share proprietary information with the CCP. You can't entice nor bring American companies back to America if you are going to tax them to death like Sanders and the socialists want to do.

EconomistDon

I'm sure that Pete has no idea of sample selection, sample size, and stratification to produce valid statistical results within acceptable error ranges. He has not shown us much in the area of intellectual capacity. However, I am impressed that he put up a post that has no political insults toward Trump or Trump supporters. That is rare for Fascist Pete.

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

[quote=dtucker300]Is he the same person who wrote [I]The Hot Zone[.i] about the ebola outbreak in monkeys at a lab Army lab in Virginia, or maybe it was Maryland. I like his quote. I've read that someone where else once and had forgotten it. Anyway, they sure can't keep everyone penned up for long. I think we have reached a point where the cure is worse than the disease for most people.

CA and NY, with possibly the two most liberal governors in the country and representing a huge part of our economy could damage most of the country. CA is already a socialist haven. They are putting homeless up in hotel rooms. How long can that continue before the hotels want the rooms for other paying customers? How long can the state continue to pay for this and what do they do with them after the pandemic ends and these homeless have nowhere else to go but back on the streets. The socialists in Sacramento will find a way to raise more taxes to put the homeless in some kind of temporary home.[/quote]
I think the homeless will be put in FEMA camps never to be heard from again

PeterS

Yes, but we are trying to restart a nation while we still have an active virus and no vaccine for it. A random sample taken over the US won't tell us if it's okay to start up Houston or LA or NYCity. We have to have samples of every city and every state and it has to be up to the CDC, not politicians and businessmen who have something to lose by not getting things going. As hard as it is for everyone to understand this can't be political but it has to be left up to science and we have to do what the best science tells us to do.

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

The CDC is as 0olitical as theDNC

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

And when a city or state is cleared to go back to work, how are you going to keep every one else out?

PeterS

We have better tools today than we had during the great depression plus the wealthy still have their money and the Fed and Washington are going to be more than happy to help capitalize the capitalists so it will take time but we can pull out without a great disaster.

I don't see our country as the problem nor the democracies of the world but China is going to find themselves with a smaller piece of the pie simply because we have to start manufacturing here simply so our people can find employment. I simply don't know what will happen when their economy is in a continual downturn? For that reason, China is who I worry about not the United States...

PeterS

I not sure if I see what you mean. If the cities are cleared you aren't going to keep people out. That's why it's a good idea to know what percentage of the population has no immunity to the virus. If it's the majority then it would be suicide to fully restart and not have a vaccine.

That question to be asked is if we have to shut down the economy again will we be able to do it or will people have had enough and refuse to obey the law?

PeterS

The only economist on the board and all you can do is sit around and denigrate others. How very typical of someone who actually is what he calls others...

PeterS

And here's something else Don -- remember when Trump said we were going to see GDP numbers of 3,4,5,6% and even higher? Now Trump wasn't talking about quarterly numbers either, he was talking about yearly GDP. Well, 17 was 2.8, 18 was 2.5, and 19 was 2.3. Now I am writing this year off because of the virus but the trend under Trump was an economy that was going down not up. And yes, I know that we had reached full employment but Hillary's monkey could have put up numbers like that and produced the same employment numbers. The only difference is that the monkey really would entertain the entire country and not just you conservatives along the way.

Now here is my point--this world's best economy EVER that Trump and his puppets liked to crow about was nothing but hype and the proof positive is that Trump needed a deficit of a trillion dollars each year to accomplish what he accomplished. Now it just so happens that a trillion yearly works out, roughly, to be 4.5%. Now think about that, to achieve economic growth of 2.5% he had to borrow 4.5% to accomplish it!

I just find it so incredibly ironic that you so-called capitalists and supply-siders can't accomplish a goddamn thing without massive borrowing from the government! It was the same under Reagan, the same under Bush Jr, and the same under Trump. And if you want to point your finger at Obama the only reason he ran up so much debt was because of the economy handed to him by Junior. At least under Obama, the debt was getting less each year whereas under Trump we are going to be lucky if the debt he accumulates doesn't sink this entire country.

You people claim to hate government, yet, you can't accomplish a goddamn thing economically without it. So not only are you fascists you're hypocrites to boot! Just sayn...

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Looking in the mirror Pete?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

I wonder;
Who has given thought to the Democrats shutting down the country for a year or 18 months?

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

This says a lot about you. (I've purposely taken this out of context to illustrate how the media and leftists do the same to everything Trump says.) Otherwise, there is much I agree with you about here.