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Mar 8, 2020 17:30:55   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the worst-hit country in the COVID-19 battle is China, by far. Further, by all accounts, at the beginning it was handled very poorly by the authorities, making the death rate there worse than what is likely in other countries.

Here are the current stats for all those panicking in N America. These refer to China only, as it's probably the worst-cast scenario:

Total infected: 107478
Recoverd: 60686
Dead: 3652
Sick: 43140

This translates to an official mortality rate of 3.4% Thanks to the MSM, most Americans hear that and think something like, 'OMG, 3.4% of 327 million is over 11 million dead!"

But that's not what mortality rate means. The way it is calculated is by dividing the number of deaths by the number of known cases. Two caveats about that. First it refers to known cases, not the total population. Second, it assumes the authorities know about every case.

Another way to look at is we can compare the total number of deaths by COVID-19 to the total population of China, which is about 1.4B. That yields a death rate of 0.00026%, or 2.6 out of every million persons. That percentage of the US population is 598 people.

There will certainly be more deaths and that tiny percentage will rise, but it seems to be slowing down already, and the numbers would have to rise by orders of magnitude for it to reach anywhere near panic level.

Calm down, take reasonable precautions, and carry on.

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Mar 8, 2020 17:35:15   #
American Vet
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the worst-hit country in the COVID-19 battle is China, by far. Further, by all accounts, at the beginning it was handled very poorly by the authorities, making the death rate there worse than what is likely in other countries.

Here are the current stats for all those panicking in N America. These refer to China only, as it's probably the worst-cast scenario:

Total infected: 107478
Recoverd: 60686
Dead: 3652
Sick: 43140

This translates to an official mortality rate of 3.4% Thanks to the MSM, most Americans hear that and think something like, 'OMG, 3.4% of 327 million is over 11 million dead!"

But that's not what mortality rate means. The way it is calculated is by dividing the number of deaths by the number of known cases. Two caveats about that. First it refers to known cases, not the total population. Second, it assumes the authorities know about every case.

Another way to look at is is we can compare the total number of deaths by COVID-19 to the total population of China, which is about 1.4B. That yields a death rate of 0.00026%, or 2.6 out of every million persons. That percentage of the US population is 598 people.

There will certainly be more deaths and that tiny percentage will rise, but it seems to be slowing down already, and the numbers would have to rise by orders of magnitude for it to reach anywhere near panic level.

Calm down, take reasonable precautions, and carry on.
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the w... (show quote)


Not to worry: The leftist will find another crisis to blame on the President. Perhaps a peanut butter shortage in some country? Hey, it may not be much but they will try to get mileage out of it.....

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Mar 8, 2020 17:39:15   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
American Vet wrote:
Not to worry: The leftist will find another crisis to blame on the President. Perhaps a peanut butter shortage in some country? Hey, it may not be much but they will try to get mileage out of it.....


Finally somebody with some sense more people die of the regular flu every year than this outbreak that we're having 14000 people died under Obama during the swine flu so people are going to die from it I think we've pretty much contained it we're supposed to be

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Mar 8, 2020 17:52:52   #
woodguru
 
You confuse justified concern and a need to know everything we can as pertains to the facts as "panicking".

You also confuse real facts that don't look as good as right wing media and the trump administration is lying about and projecting as the fake news, we are going to be seeing real numbers and facts on a daily basis that don't match the false numbers trump "lies" about, if you want to call misrepresenting numbers anything but lies. How hard would it be for trump to ask an advisor what the new numbers are before speaking? He gets corrected and still uses the old numbers that were wrong days later when they are way worse.

Those who are paying attention to the news and facts know this is going to be worse than originally thought. That is not panicking.

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Mar 8, 2020 18:05:34   #
son of witless
 
woodguru wrote:
You confuse justified concern and a need to know everything we can as pertains to the facts as "panicking".

You also confuse real facts that don't look as good as right wing media and the trump administration is lying about and projecting as the fake news, we are going to be seeing real numbers and facts on a daily basis that don't match the false numbers trump "lies" about, if you want to call misrepresenting numbers anything but lies. How hard would it be for trump to ask an advisor what the new numbers are before speaking? He gets corrected and still uses the old numbers that were wrong days later when they are way worse.

Those who are paying attention to the news and facts know this is going to be worse than originally thought. That is not panicking.
You confuse justified concern and a need to know e... (show quote)


So freakin FAR, compared to every other nation on Earth, the US of A under Donald J. Trump is doing pretty good. We are not Italy. We are not China. We are not Iran. Thank God we don't have Obama in charge anymore. Remember how he botched the BP oil spill ? I remember if you don't.

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Mar 8, 2020 18:10:35   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
son of witless wrote:
So freakin FAR, compared to every other nation on Earth, the US of A under Donald J. Trump is doing pretty good. We are not Italy. We are not China. We are not Iran. Thank God we don't have Obama in charge anymore. Remember how he botched the BP oil spill ? I remember if you don't.


We don't even have to bring up the BP oil spill all you got to do is just look at what happened during the H1 N1 virus otherwise known as the swine flu 14,000 people died under Obama's watch I didn't hear the mainstream media going apoplectic after him

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Mar 8, 2020 18:11:49   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the worst-hit country in the COVID-19 battle is China, by far. Further, by all accounts, at the beginning it was handled very poorly by the authorities, making the death rate there worse than what is likely in other countries.

Here are the current stats for all those panicking in N America. These refer to China only, as it's probably the worst-cast scenario:

Total infected: 107478
Recoverd: 60686
Dead: 3652
Sick: 43140

This translates to an official mortality rate of 3.4% Thanks to the MSM, most Americans hear that and think something like, 'OMG, 3.4% of 327 million is over 11 million dead!"

But that's not what mortality rate means. The way it is calculated is by dividing the number of deaths by the number of known cases. Two caveats about that. First it refers to known cases, not the total population. Second, it assumes the authorities know about every case.

Another way to look at is we can compare the total number of deaths by COVID-19 to the total population of China, which is about 1.4B. That yields a death rate of 0.00026%, or 2.6 out of every million persons. That percentage of the US population is 598 people.

There will certainly be more deaths and that tiny percentage will rise, but it seems to be slowing down already, and the numbers would have to rise by orders of magnitude for it to reach anywhere near panic level.

Calm down, take reasonable precautions, and carry on.
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the w... (show quote)


They meant 3.4% of the world's population is going to die because of this not Americans say I hate how fake news doesn't even tell you that I just leave it out there because they want the economy to tank so the Democrats can win

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Mar 8, 2020 18:13:04   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
woodguru wrote:
You confuse justified concern and a need to know everything we can as pertains to the facts as "panicking".

You also confuse real facts that don't look as good as right wing media and the trump administration is lying about and projecting as the fake news, we are going to be seeing real numbers and facts on a daily basis that don't match the false numbers trump "lies" about, if you want to call misrepresenting numbers anything but lies. How hard would it be for trump to ask an advisor what the new numbers are before speaking? He gets corrected and still uses the old numbers that were wrong days later when they are way worse.

Those who are paying attention to the news and facts know this is going to be worse than originally thought. That is not panicking.
You confuse justified concern and a need to know e... (show quote)


I got those numbers from this site:
https://visalist.io/emergency/coronavirus

I suppose Trump could run that, but probably not. They also seem to match well with all other data I could find, but Trump probably controls all of 'em, huh?

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Mar 8, 2020 18:17:42   #
CarryOn
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the worst-hit country in the COVID-19 battle is China, by far. Further, by all accounts, at the beginning it was handled very poorly by the authorities, making the death rate there worse than what is likely in other countries.

Here are the current stats for all those panicking in N America. These refer to China only, as it's probably the worst-cast scenario:

Total infected: 107478
Recoverd: 60686
Dead: 3652
Sick: 43140

This translates to an official mortality rate of 3.4% Thanks to the MSM, most Americans hear that and think something like, 'OMG, 3.4% of 327 million is over 11 million dead!"

But that's not what mortality rate means. The way it is calculated is by dividing the number of deaths by the number of known cases. Two caveats about that. First it refers to known cases, not the total population. Second, it assumes the authorities know about every case.

Another way to look at is we can compare the total number of deaths by COVID-19 to the total population of China, which is about 1.4B. That yields a death rate of 0.00026%, or 2.6 out of every million persons. That percentage of the US population is 598 people.

There will certainly be more deaths and that tiny percentage will rise, but it seems to be slowing down already, and the numbers would have to rise by orders of magnitude for it to reach anywhere near panic level.

Calm down, take reasonable precautions, and carry on.
According to the latest data as of 3/8/2020, the w... (show quote)


Thank you Voice of Reason for being the voice of reason! This overreaction to COVID-19 is ridiculous and harmful. Excellent post.

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Mar 8, 2020 18:25:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
77Reaganite wrote:
They meant 3.4% of the world's population is going to die because of this not Americans say I hate how fake news doesn't even tell you that I just leave it out there because they want the economy to tank so the Democrats can win
The truth is that the 3.4% mortality rate applies only to those who contact the virus, it is not a blanket curse on the entire world population.

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Mar 8, 2020 18:27:21   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The truth is that the 3.4% mortality rate applies only to those who contact the virus, it is not a blanket curse on the entire world population.


Whatever I really don't give a crap the Democrats walk around here like this is a zombie apocalypse like I said they're only doing this to try to ruin the economy that Trump is created so the Democrats can win that's their only recourse to win something has to happen with the stock market or they will lose I mean they've already lost November 3rd because if you haven't been watching these primaries people have been coming out in record numbers to vote for Trump even though they don't have to

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Mar 8, 2020 18:30:03   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
CarryOn wrote:
Thank you Voice of Reason for being the voice of reason! This overreaction to COVID-19 is ridiculous and harmful. Excellent post.


Thanks. But...ooops, I was in a rush and made a couple of mistakes. First I thought I'd brought up China's numbers, but those are worldwide numbers, the actual China numbers are:

Total infected 80699
Recovered 57098
Dead 3097
Sick 20504

Which translates to a slightly lower percentage of the total population of China, about 2.21 persons/million.

Then I fat-fingered the population of the US as 237M instead of 327M. So, that percentage of the US population would be 723 people. Sorry about the mistakes, this time I double-checked.

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Mar 8, 2020 18:35:36   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
77Reaganite wrote:
Whatever I really don't give a crap the Democrats walk around here like this is a zombie apocalypse like I said they're only doing this to try to ruin the economy that Trump is created so the Democrats can win that's their only recourse to win something has to happen with the stock market or they will lose I mean they've already lost November 3rd because if you haven't been watching these primaries people have been coming out in record numbers to vote for Trump even though they don't have to

Go easy, dude, I am well aware of what is going on.

Just as they do with every damned thing on planet earth, the psycho-progs have turned the Coronavirus into a political assault weapon.

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Mar 8, 2020 19:03:14   #
woodguru
 
77Reaganite wrote:
We don't even have to bring up the BP oil spill all you got to do is just look at what happened during the H1 N1 virus otherwise known as the swine flu 14,000 people died under Obama's watch I didn't hear the mainstream media going apoplectic after him


Pull your head out, it was because we were already doing an excellent job of damage control in medical terms.

This president is doing everything profoundly wrong including the initial test kits that went out faulty...

...the reason they were faulty was because CDC protocols were a mess of confusion because of inept responses and mismanagement.

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Mar 8, 2020 19:07:38   #
CarryOn
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
Thanks. But...ooops, I was in a rush and made a couple of mistakes. First I thought I'd brought up China's numbers, but those are worldwide numbers, the actual China numbers are:

Total infected 80699
Recovered 57098
Dead 3097
Sick 20504

Which translates to a slightly lower percentage of the total population of China, about 2.21 persons/million.

Then I fat-fingered the population of the US as 237M instead of 327M. So, that percentage of the US population would be 723 people. Sorry about the mistakes, this time I double-checked.
Thanks. But...ooops, I was in a rush and made a co... (show quote)


Still the numbers are extremely low compared to what the media would have us believe. I read an article this morning pointing out that in China the number of people who have recovered from this virus is greater than the number of people who are currently infected. Your numbers would bear that out.

Part of the harm of this is loss of credibility in those providing us with important information ... mainly the media. Once people begin to understand that COVID-19 is going to affect them very little if at all and the number of those infected starts to dissipate and this whole thing fades into the background like H1N1, it will be obvious how much damage was done and how much disruption was caused by it ... mostly because of intentional fear mongering and overeaction by the biased media. So next time--and there will most certainly be a next time--some new virus is let loose on us, how will we respond?

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