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Jun 26, 2014 22:40:57   #
Sicilianthing
 
How on earth did they get appointed FOR LIFE ? WTF ?
Someone explain to me how that happened !
And HOW We're going to change that?
NO ONE DESERVES a position for LIFE, not of the people PERIOD !

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Jun 26, 2014 22:45:16   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Read the constitution.
Sicilianthing wrote:
How on earth did they get appointed FOR LIFE ? WTF ?
Someone explain to me how that happened !
And HOW We're going to change that?
NO ONE DESERVES a position for LIFE, not of the people PERIOD !

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Jun 26, 2014 22:50:34   #
The Dutchman
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
How on earth did they get appointed FOR LIFE ? WTF ?
Someone explain to me how that happened !
And HOW We're going to change that?
NO ONE DESERVES a position for LIFE, not of the people PERIOD !

Super Dave wrote:
Read the constitution.


Dave, you may very well need to get it an interpreter, one that can break it down into an adolescent level....

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Jun 26, 2014 22:51:13   #
Sicilianthing
 
I must be tired, I don't remember that in there...
time to revisit... it's just wrong though... that can't continue...
too much power in the hands of too few individuals...

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Jun 26, 2014 23:03:05   #
stevenkalka
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
How on earth did they get appointed FOR LIFE ? WTF ?
Someone explain to me how that happened !
And HOW We're going to change that?
NO ONE DESERVES a position for LIFE, not of the people PERIOD !


These justices may be politically appointed, yet as the highest court in the land, they are supposed to be above politics. For that reason, they are lifetime appointments. FDR proposed an age limit that went noplace. It was seen as a backdoor attempt to force the conservative opponents of his New Deal and NRA into retirement.

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Jun 26, 2014 23:05:57   #
stevenkalka
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
I must be tired, I don't remember that in there...
time to revisit... it's just wrong though... that can't continue...
too much power in the hands of too few individuals...


Ever hear of the federal separation of powers? They interpret federal law, not make it. I rest easier with a system of chdecks and balances.

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Jun 26, 2014 23:07:25   #
Sicilianthing
 
stevenkalka wrote:
Ever hear of the federal separation of powers? They interpret federal law, not make it. I rest easier with a system of chdecks and balances.


NO ONE DESERVES APPOINTMENT FOR LIFE... NO ONE...
and the checks and balances are obviously not working.

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Jun 27, 2014 03:04:57   #
Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede
 
A Constitutional amendment can remedy this small problem but honestly do you really think you can get a Justice above politics? In this day and age? A diamond in the rough.

Good luck trying to fix this because it is going to be as improbable as imposing term limits on senators and congressmen.

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Jun 27, 2014 07:20:55   #
yogiman
 
That is one of the errors our founders made, sicilianthing. Another one was to accept slavery in our nation... we're still paying for it to many people simply because of the color of their skin; not because their ancestors were slaves?

Another one was they didn't define a natural born citizen. They probably thought everyone in the future would be wise enough to understand it.

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Jun 27, 2014 07:23:44   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Sicilianthing wrote:
How on earth did they get appointed FOR LIFE ? WTF ?
Someone explain to me how that happened !
And HOW We're going to change that?
NO ONE DESERVES a position for LIFE, not of the people PERIOD !



Dave, you may very well need to get it an interpreter, one that can break it down into an adolescent level....




I don't have a lot of time this morning, but I found a link regarding the Supreme Court and it's powers, according to the Founders. It seems the Founders envisioned a Court with far less power than this one wields. I doubt that the de facto "lifetime appointments" would have been there had the Founders realized what a pack of vipers they were unleashing.
Another thing to take into consideration regarding the makeup of the Court, and it's usurpation of State and Individual Rights, is that these Justices are approved by the Senate. The Senate used to be elected by State Legislatures, rather than popular vote, until the 17th Amendment was foisted off on the electorate. The reasoning was to keep as much power as possible at the State Level.
The only solution is term limits for the Court, or rescinding the 17th Amendment.


http://www.inthewordsofourfoundingfathers.com/supremecourt.html

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Jun 27, 2014 07:31:23   #
stevenkalka
 
yogiman wrote:
That is one of the error our founders made, sicilianthing. Another one was to accept slavery in our nation... we're still paying for it to many people simply because of the color of their skin; not because their ancestors were slaves?


The founders accepted slavery because though many of them knew it went against the spirit of freedom embodied in the Constitution, it lacked enough support to pass unless slavery was overlooked. Thomas Jefferson himself needed to overlook it to represnt Virginian plantation owners. They kicked the can diwn the road until the civil war.

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Jun 27, 2014 07:36:32   #
stevenkalka
 
Loki wrote:
I don't have a lot of time this morning, but I found a link regarding the Supreme Court and it's powers, according to the Founders. It seems the Founders envisioned a Court with far less power than this one wields. I doubt that the de facto "lifetime appointments" would have been there had the Founders realized what a pack of vipers they were unleashing.
Another thing to take into consideration regarding the makeup of the Court, and it's usurpation of State and Individual Rights, is that these Justices are approved by the Senate. The Senate used to be elected by State Legislatures, rather than popular vote, until the 17th Amendment was foisted off on the electorate. The reasoning was to keep as much power as possible at the State Level.
The only solution is term limits for the Court, or rescinding the 17th Amendment.


http://www.inthewordsofourfoundingfathers.com/supremecourt.html
I don't have a lot of time this morning, but I fou... (show quote)

I prefer the latter. The limiting powers of the republic are weakened by popular voting of Senators.

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Jun 27, 2014 07:45:38   #
Rdjarhead Loc: Oklahoma
 
stevenkalka wrote:
The founders accepted slavery because though many of them knew it went against the spirit of freedom embodied in the Constitution, it lacked enough support to pass unless slavery was overlooked. Thomas Jefferson himself needed to overlook it to represnt Virginian plantation owners. They kicked the can diwn the road until the civil war.

Our founding fathers most of them actually believed that slavery would die out with in a generation or two no one could forsee the cotton gin

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Jun 27, 2014 07:46:48   #
Rdjarhead Loc: Oklahoma
 
What really sucks about yesterday's decision is its not even a law it's an ATF regulation. that is if you were discussing the straw purchase program

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Jun 27, 2014 08:08:41   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
stevenkalka wrote:
I prefer the latter. The limiting powers of the republic are weakened by popular voting of Senators.


The 16th Amendment was sold as a tax on rich northeastern industrialists only. No one else to be affected. I don't know what sort of bullshit was used to obtain the support for #17, but it resulted in the professional Senate we have now, about as far removed from the Founders intent as you can get. State Legislatures are closer to home, and more accountable. They would not elect Senators who would infringe on their powers. You are correct.

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