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Feb 18, 2020 15:33:59   #
Singularity
 
https://youtu.be/fCUTX1jurJ4

Not the usual fare for OPP, but a challenging thought experience.

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Feb 18, 2020 16:41:16   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Singularity wrote:
https://youtu.be/fCUTX1jurJ4

Not the usual fare for OPP, but a challenging thought experience.


Well...India has a national ID meaning about 1/3 of the world's population lives under the surveillance state already.

The people pushing for national IDs will push for world IDs and they're conducting the preliminary work for facial recognition in China and our government made it possible for everyone to have our personal data.

Nice.

Glad to hear from you, BTW...listening to vid now.

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Feb 18, 2020 16:53:48   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Singularity wrote:
https://youtu.be/fCUTX1jurJ4

Not the usual fare for OPP, but a challenging thought experience.

I thought you had memorized the Bible? The end game is in Revelation 13:16-17. Research Amazon developing having your hand become your credit card. And consider that biometric identification includes facial recognition! You're smart...I'll let you connect the dots.

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Feb 18, 2020 17:42:01   #
woodguru
 
BigMike wrote:
Well...India has a national ID meaning about 1/3 of the world's population lives under the surveillance state already.

The people pushing for national IDs will push for world IDs and they're conducting the preliminary work for facial recognition in China and our government made it possible for everyone to have our personal data.

Nice.

Glad to hear from you, BTW...listening to vid now.
Well...India has a I national ID /I meaning abou... (show quote)


The US is so far advanced in AI and computer surveillance beyond what people are aware of, my cousin was involved in AI and has an awareness of the direction it's gone by staying aware of competitive advances and what their creators see their direction headed. The pentagon has been snapping up every advanced level of crowd recognition that comes out. One company that said it was not for sale to the military did an about face with an $8 Billion buyout...

Think you are "safe" at trump rallies? Those who go to trump rallies are heavily profiled and targeted by social media metrics.

Crowd surveillance can scan a crowd of 10,000 people and identify and match them up in an incredibly short time frame.

Casinos had the ability to scan and match faces at tables with people they wanted or were banned in the 80's, now with the NSA having every person in the country categorized and filed it has gone far beyond. A person who wants to change identities can be picked up no matter what they try to change, even writing style and characteristics can mark a person.

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Feb 18, 2020 18:32:44   #
Singularity
 
Parky60 wrote:
I thought you had memorized the Bible? The end game is in Revelation 13:16-17. Research Amazon developing having your hand become your credit card. And consider that biometric identification includes facial recognition You're smart...I'll let you connect the dots.

Mostly the New Testament and Genesis are recalled eidetically, but I'm familiar with the rest.

The mark of the beast!

In fact I was hoping for someone to make that connection. And that I could listen in to a long informed conversation, if I was quiet and respectful.

Whenever I ask up front for instruction or others thoughts regarding biblical questions, I'm told an unbeliever could not discern the explanation. Sometimes I don't. And sometimes I am less than respectful. Apologies. Work in progress.

But Father Breen told me that it is God who calls me through my interest in these questions. I'm not sure I believe it but he says to follow up when I have interest as it might be my "singular, rare chance" for God to speak to my heart.

So I'm putting my heart in listening mode and trying to perceive. Best I can muster.

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Feb 18, 2020 18:35:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Parky60 wrote:
I thought you had memorized the Bible? The end game is in Revelation 13:16-17. Research Amazon developing having your hand become your credit card. And consider that biometric identification includes facial recognition! You're smart...I'll let you connect the dots.


Already have...just didn't go there. I'm watching. They develop one part of the system in one part of the globe and other parts other places on the globe. Keeps the rubes from figuring out the "end game" as you say...or that's the plan, at least.

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Feb 18, 2020 18:37:35   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
The US is so far advanced in AI and computer surveillance beyond what people are aware of, my cousin was involved in AI and has an awareness of the direction it's gone by staying aware of competitive advances and what their creators see their direction headed. The pentagon has been snapping up every advanced level of crowd recognition that comes out. One company that said it was not for sale to the military did an about face with an $8 Billion buyout...

Think you are "safe" at trump rallies? Those who go to trump rallies are heavily profiled and targeted by social media metrics.

Crowd surveillance can scan a crowd of 10,000 people and identify and match them up in an incredibly short time frame.

Casinos had the ability to scan and match faces at tables with people they wanted or were banned in the 80's, now with the NSA having every person in the country categorized and filed it has gone far beyond. A person who wants to change identities can be picked up no matter what they try to change, even writing style and characteristics can mark a person.
The US is so far advanced in AI and computer surve... (show quote)


No...I don't think anyone will be all that safe anywhere but I think it won't be here like it is elsewhere because America has a more maverick population. I won't be attending any rallies.

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Feb 18, 2020 18:42:24   #
Singularity
 
BigMike wrote:
Already have...just didn't go there. I'm watching. They develop one part of the system in one part of the globe and other parts other places on the globe. Keeps the rubes from figuring out the "end game" as you say...or that's the plan, at least.

Hello, my friend.

After watching this and another urine (utube, Damon autocorrect!) video of a guy doing provocative films regarding government building surveillance to raise awareness of First Ammendment rights and privacy violations, .....

Amazon is showing me this ad about police body cameras for personal security in public(!) at $135.

Is the Nord vpn worth what they charge and will it be obsolete before I install it? Or is it just a pacifier to keep me quiet and put me to sleep?

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Feb 18, 2020 20:02:45   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Singularity wrote:
Mostly the New Testament and Genesis are recalled eidetically, but I'm familiar with the rest.

The mark of the beast!

In fact I was hoping for someone to make that connection. And that I could listen in to a long informed conversation, if I was quiet and respectful.

Whenever I ask up front for instruction or others thoughts regarding biblical questions, I'm told an unbeliever could not discern the explanation. Sometimes I don't. And sometimes I am less than respectful. Apologies. Work in progress.

But Father Breen told me that it is God who calls me through my interest in these questions. I'm not sure I believe it but he says to follow up when I have interest as it might be my "singular, rare chance" for God to speak to my heart.

So I'm putting my heart in listening mode and trying to perceive. Best I can muster.
Mostly the New Testament and Genesis are recalled ... (show quote)

I’m glad that you’re a work in progress.

Concerning being told that when you ask up front for instruction or others thoughts regarding biblical questions, you’re told an unbeliever could not discern the explanation, 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 comes to mind. I hope that this will help.

1 Corinthians 2:14-16 (NASB)
14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.
16 For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ.


The contrast here is between the saved person (called "spiritual" because he is indwelt by the Spirit) and the unsaved person (called "natural" because he does not have the Spirit within). In 1 Corinthians 3:1-4, Paul will introduce a third kind of person, the "carnal man." He is the immature Christian, the one who lives on a childhood level because he will not feed on the Word and grow.

At one time, every Christian was "natural," having only the things of nature. When we trusted Jesus, the Spirit came in and we moved into the plane of "spiritual"—able to live in the realm of the Spirit. Then we had to grow! The unsaved man cannot receive the things of the Spirit because he does not believe in them and cannot understand them. But as the Christian day by day receives the things of the Spirit, he grows and matures.

One of the marks of maturity is discernment—the ability to penetrate beneath the surface of life and see things as they really are. Unsaved people "walk by sight" and really see nothing. They are spiritually blind. The maturing Christian grows in his spiritual discernment and develops the ability (with the Spirit's help) to understand more and more of the will and mind of God.

To "have the mind of Christ" means to look at life from the Savior's point of view, having His values and desires in mind. It means to think God's thoughts and not think as the world thinks.

The unsaved person does not understand the Christian; they live in two different worlds. But the Christian understands the unsaved person because he’s been there. Verse 15 does not suggest that unsaved people cannot point out flaws in the believer's life (they often do), but that the unsaved man really cannot penetrate into the full understanding of what the Christian's life is all about.

Blessed are the balanced! And blessed are they who understand and share "all the counsel of God" (Acts 20:27).

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Feb 18, 2020 21:19:27   #
Singularity
 
Parky60 wrote:
I’m glad that you’re a work in progress.

Concerning being told that when you ask up front for instruction or others thoughts regarding biblical questions, you’re told an unbeliever could not discern the explanation, 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 comes to mind. I hope that this will help.

1 Corinthians 2:14-16 (NASB)
14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.
16 For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ.


The contrast here is between the saved person (called "spiritual" because he is indwelt by the Spirit) and the unsaved person (called "natural" because he does not have the Spirit within). In 1 Corinthians 3:1-4, Paul will introduce a third kind of person, the "carnal man." He is the immature Christian, the one who lives on a childhood level because he will not feed on the Word and grow.

At one time, every Christian was "natural," having only the things of nature. When we trusted Jesus, the Spirit came in and we moved into the plane of "spiritual"—able to live in the realm of the Spirit. Then we had to grow! The unsaved man cannot receive the things of the Spirit because he does not believe in them and cannot understand them. But as the Christian day by day receives the things of the Spirit, he grows and matures.

One of the marks of maturity is discernment—the ability to penetrate beneath the surface of life and see things as they really are. Unsaved people "walk by sight" and really see nothing. They are spiritually blind. The maturing Christian grows in his spiritual discernment and develops the ability (with the Spirit's help) to understand more and more of the will and mind of God.

To "have the mind of Christ" means to look at life from the Savior's point of view, having His values and desires in mind. It means to think God's thoughts and not think as the world thinks.

The unsaved person does not understand the Christian; they live in two different worlds. But the Christian understands the unsaved person because he’s been there. Verse 15 does not suggest that unsaved people cannot point out flaws in the believer's life (they often do), but that the unsaved man really cannot penetrate into the full understanding of what the Christian's life is all about.

Blessed are the balanced! And blessed are they who understand and share "all the counsel of God" (Acts 20:27).
I’m glad that you’re a work in progress. br br Co... (show quote)

I'm a hard case, because I have been there. Tasted the heavenly gifts, so to say, and found them empty calories at last. You wrote me a very nice and heartfelt post and I feel I like I want you to understand how I receive it.

I was raised in a conservative church of Christ family/community of cult like proportions. A weird extra strain of Pentecostal influence in our family cult had me feeling the Spirit and I have prophesied and spoke in tongues. I twice handled rattlesnakes in church, as a teen. (I'm hard headed.) I valued what I was taught was a personal relationship with Jesus. He was my only confidante at times.

I was married to a Catholic man I met, after College and Medical School during my Residency, for 30 years and healed somewhat, converted and was a confirmed Catholic. I studied at the Unity Church for about ten years. I stopped being baptized every time I changed churches, after the Catholic one, but I've been baptized enough to cover five lifetimes of sin. Then I investigated Judaism, Kabbalah, Tarot and Wicca.

Sigh. My spells didn't work any better than my childhood prayers. I've come to be entirely skeptical of religion and can't prove it but suspect God isn't real. I call myself an atheist. I don't feel motivated to keep up with religious topics for myself as much except in the political arena and associated religious topics enough so i will have heard some of these things, been innoculated so to say, so I don't go crazy at family funerals.

Occasionally I have flares of interest, such as now.

It seems you've gone to a lot of trouble and put your heart into a loving offering, so I copied it to my phone since I want to read it again more carefully. I think it also stands here for others as a fine testimony of your faith and witness.

My gratitude for your kindness.

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Feb 18, 2020 21:43:12   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Singularity wrote:
I'm a hard case, because I have been there. Tasted the heavenly gifts, so to say, and found them empty calories at last. You wrote me a very nice and heartfelt post and I feel I like I want you to understand how I receive it.

I was raised in a conservative church of Christ family/community of cult like proportions. A weird extra strain of Pentecostal influence in our family cult had me feeling the Spirit and I have prophesied and spoke in tongues. I twice handled rattlesnakes in church, as a teen. (I'm hard headed.) I valued what I was taught was a personal relationship with Jesus. He was my only confidante at times.

I was married to a Catholic man I met, after College and Medical School during my Residency, for 30 years and healed somewhat, converted and was a confirmed Catholic. I studied at the Unity Church for about ten years. I stopped being baptized every time I changed churches, after the Catholic one, but I've been baptized enough to cover five lifetimes of sin. Then I investigated Judaism, Kabbalah, Tarot and Wicca.

Sigh. My spells didn't work any better than my childhood prayers. I've come to be entirely skeptical of religion and can't prove it but suspect God isn't real. I call myself an atheist. I don't feel motivated to keep up with religious topics for myself as much except in the political arena and associated religious topics enough so i will have heard some of these things, been innoculated so to say, so I don't go crazy at family funerals.

Occasionally I have flares of interest, such as now.

It seems you've gone to a lot of trouble and put your heart into a loving offering, so I copied it to my phone since I want to read it again more carefully. I think it also stands here for others as a fine testimony of your faith and witness.

My gratitude for your kindness.
I'm a hard case, because I have been there. Tasted... (show quote)

Concerning prayer — The Holy Spirit is expressly promised to those who seek, in the exercise of prayer, for his saving influences. "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?” (Luke 11:13) Whatever means of regeneration may be employed, none can supersede the use of prayer. It is indispensably requisite in all cases, and if persisted in with importunity and humble dependence upon God it will infallibly prevail. It is not possible that he should mock us by exciting our desires and encouraging our supplications, and then disappointing and rejecting us. When the penitent thief prayed, "Lord, remember me," our Lord replied, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise;" which clearly involves the regeneration of the suppliant. The prayer of the publican was, "God be merciful to me a sinner;" but he "went down to his house justified," and, consequently, regenerated. We have therefore great encouragement to pray, in the language of David, "Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. (Psalm 51:10-11)

If we are "born again" we are "born of the Spirit," by whose direct agency alone we can be made the children of God.

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Feb 18, 2020 21:45:56   #
Singularity
 
Parky60 wrote:
Concerning prayer — The Holy Spirit is expressly promised to those who seek, in the exercise of prayer, for his saving influences. "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?” (Luke 11:13) Whatever means of regeneration may be employed, none can supersede the use of prayer. It is indispensably requisite in all cases, and if persisted in with importunity and humble dependence upon God it will infallibly prevail. It is not possible that he should mock us by exciting our desires and encouraging our supplications, and then disappointing and rejecting us. When the penitent thief prayed, "Lord, remember me," our Lord replied, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise;" which clearly involves the regeneration of the suppliant. The prayer of the publican was, "God be merciful to me a sinner;" but he "went down to his house justified," and, consequently, regenerated. We have therefore great encouragement to pray, in the language of David, "Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. (Psalm 51:10-11)

If we are "born again" we are "born of the Spirit," by whose direct agency alone we can be made the children of God.
Concerning prayer — b The Holy Spirit is expressl... (show quote)


I had a nice post but lost it in posting it. My battery is dying so I'll try again tomorrow. Pretty close to bedtime.

You sleep well!

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Feb 18, 2020 22:00:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Singularity wrote:
Hello, my friend.

After watching this and another urine (utube, Damon autocorrect!) video of a guy doing provocative films regarding government building surveillance to raise awareness of First Ammendment rights and privacy violations, .....

Amazon is showing me this ad about police body cameras for personal security in public(!) at $135.

Is the Nord vpn worth what they charge and will it be obsolete before I install it? Or is it just a pacifier to keep me quiet and put me to sleep?
Hello, my friend. br br After watching this and ... (show quote)


Dunno on that one. VPNs just seem to me to be things they will be able to defeat soon if they can't already.

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Feb 18, 2020 22:06:13   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Singularity wrote:
I'm a hard case, because I have been there. Tasted the heavenly gifts, so to say, and found them empty calories at last. You wrote me a very nice and heartfelt post and I feel I like I want you to understand how I receive it.

I was raised in a conservative church of Christ family/community of cult like proportions. A weird extra strain of Pentecostal influence in our family cult had me feeling the Spirit and I have prophesied and spoke in tongues. I twice handled rattlesnakes in church, as a teen. (I'm hard headed.) I valued what I was taught was a personal relationship with Jesus. He was my only confidante at times.

I was married to a Catholic man I met, after College and Medical School during my Residency, for 30 years and healed somewhat, converted and was a confirmed Catholic. I studied at the Unity Church for about ten years. I stopped being baptized every time I changed churches, after the Catholic one, but I've been baptized enough to cover five lifetimes of sin. Then I investigated Judaism, Kabbalah, Tarot and Wicca.

Sigh. My spells didn't work any better than my childhood prayers. I've come to be entirely skeptical of religion and can't prove it but suspect God isn't real. I call myself an atheist. I don't feel motivated to keep up with religious topics for myself as much except in the political arena and associated religious topics enough so i will have heard some of these things, been innoculated so to say, so I don't go crazy at family funerals.

Occasionally I have flares of interest, such as now.

It seems you've gone to a lot of trouble and put your heart into a loving offering, so I copied it to my phone since I want to read it again more carefully. I think it also stands here for others as a fine testimony of your faith and witness.

My gratitude for your kindness.
I'm a hard case, because I have been there. Tasted... (show quote)


A relationship with God isn't Catholicism or any other ism. He's still there for you. One thing getting old is teaching me is time is indeed relative.

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Feb 19, 2020 16:47:07   #
roy
 
BigMike wrote:
No...I don't think anyone will be all that safe anywhere but I think it won't be here like it is elsewhere because America has a more maverick population. I won't be attending any rallies.


Have you got the little yellow star on your drivers license yet,If you have your caught already,why do you think the Trump admin. Come up with the bullshit.You will be watched like never before.

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