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Historically, trumps acquittal will mean nothing, but his impeachment will be forever
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Feb 2, 2020 18:57:42   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
You picked up on that. Spot on, dtucker.


Yeah, I meant that for fictionnotfact but hit the wrong reply button.

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Feb 2, 2020 19:43:50   #
fullspinzoo
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Yeah, I meant that for fictionnotfact but hit the wrong reply button.


Yeah, that makes more sense. Anybody who has to convince you that they are a truthteller.... well, you know. Schiff uses the same username!!!

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Feb 2, 2020 20:44:01   #
maryjane
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into a silly frenzy, remember of the 3 presidential impeachments, none were removed from office,thanks to partisan support for the guilty.
So Johnson, Clinton and trump were all impeached, and all managed to stay in office. Nixon would have probably been removed, but he had the common sense and decency to resign, unlike the orange stain trump.

And the best is yet to come, since the Bolton book will provide more information for more articles of impeachment, and there is NOTHINg that trump, or his congress critters or all of the trumpcons can do about except whine, cry, snivel, and complain.

Damn shame
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into... (show quote)


But, isn't it factual that he is NOT impeached unless/until the Senate finds him guilty? The House democrats gave NOT impeached the president since only the Senate can do that. The House conducted as thorough an investigation as they wished to do and then chose to present CHARGES of impeachment to the Senate. Charges are not the same as a guilty verdict.

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Feb 2, 2020 20:49:42   #
maryjane
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into a silly frenzy, remember of the 3 presidential impeachments, none were removed from office,thanks to partisan support for the guilty.
So Johnson, Clinton and trump were all impeached, and all managed to stay in office. Nixon would have probably been removed, but he had the common sense and decency to resign, unlike the orange stain trump.

And the best is yet to come, since the Bolton book will provide more information for more articles of impeachment, and there is NOTHINg that trump, or his congress critters or all of the trumpcons can do about except whine, cry, snivel, and complain.

Damn shame
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into... (show quote)


Two things. First, surely you do not believe something just because it is print? There are many, many books filled with untruths, especially "tell-all" books. Second, any person paying even half-way attention for the past 4 years, is certainly quite aware that you Democrats, leftists, socialists, progressives, antiAmerica, globalists will never let any facts or truths get in the way of "getting" Trump, which is, obviously the thing that matters most to them. It

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Feb 2, 2020 21:16:45   #
EmilyD
 
maryjane wrote:
But, isn't it factual that he is NOT impeached unless/until the Senate finds him guilty? The House democrats gave NOT impeached the president since only the Senate can do that. The House conducted as thorough an investigation as they wished to do and then chose to present CHARGES of impeachment to the Senate. Charges are not the same as a guilty verdict.

To be "impeached" means to be "charged" or "accused" of something. So, yes, Trump has been "impeached". People put too much emphasis on the word "impeached"...it is only an accusation that has to be completed in a trial. The word that would matter way more than "impeach" is "convict". If Trump is "convicted", then he would be removed from office. That is not going to happen, though.

What is going on right now is the Senate is in the middle of the trial - evaluating the charges that have been brought before it by the House of Representatives. The Senate hears all the testimony and evidence from the House and then votes on acquittal (not guilty) or conviction (guilty). In order to be convicted, the Senate needs a two-third "supermajority vote". Right now there are 100 Senators in the Senate. Two-thirds of that is 67....so the Senate needs 67 votes to find Trump guilty. There are 53 Republican Senators, 45 Democrat Senators and 2 Independent Senators. (Independents will most likely vote the way Democrats will in this case)...so the Democrats have 47 members (votes) on their side. That means that the Democrats would need for 20 Republicans to flip to their side and vote along with them to convict Trump. There are a few Republican Senators that will do that, but no where near 20, so Trump will be found not guilty. This is all supposed to happen on Wednesday (Feb. 5), but things and dates can change at the drop of a dime in the Senate.

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Feb 2, 2020 21:41:27   #
fullspinzoo
 
maryjane wrote:
But, isn't it factual that he is NOT impeached unless/until the Senate finds him guilty? The House democrats gave NOT impeached the president since only the Senate can do that. The House conducted as thorough an investigation as they wished to do and then chose to present CHARGES of impeachment to the Senate. Charges are not the same as a guilty verdict.


He was found guilty on both articles but not one Republican voted for either article. It was totally partisan to the point that 195 Republicans voted it down on both articles. He was impeached but not removed. It is supposed to be voted on ~ on Wednesday unless the Dems play more games and decided to pull some shenanigans to delay it.

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Feb 3, 2020 10:17:40   #
maryla
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into a silly frenzy, remember of the 3 presidential impeachments, none were removed from office,thanks to partisan support for the guilty.
So Johnson, Clinton and trump were all impeached, and all managed to stay in office. Nixon would have probably been removed, but he had the common sense and decency to resign, unlike the orange stain trump.

And the best is yet to come, since the Bolton book will provide more information for more articles of impeachment, and there is NOTHINg that trump, or his congress critters or all of the trumpcons can do about except whine, cry, snivel, and complain.

Damn shame
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into... (show quote)


He did nothing wrong, certainly nothing impeachable and it is you, fact not fiction, who is wasting tax dollars so I hope you complainers shut up.He may have had a questionable past but he is strong, supports religious freedom and has done some awesome things for the economy so it is necessary not to expect too much!

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Feb 3, 2020 10:39:10   #
fullspinzoo
 
maryla wrote:
He did nothing wrong, certainly nothing impeachable and it is you, fact not fiction, who is wasting tax dollars so I hope you complainers shut up.He may have had a questionable past but he is strong, supports religious freedom and has done some awesome things for the economy so it is necessary not to expect too much!


What he has done in the last 3 years is amazing. I've asked at least a dozen times who could be doing a better job and they don't have the cajones to come up with an answer....because they don't want to look foolish. Two answers so far: Billy boy, the perv ~ not qualified and Joe Biden ~ laughable. That's it Nice try~ no cig. For some reason I think Sanders might be a little tougher than Biden, but bottom line, nobody's going to beat Trump in November. When you go in with an economy so strong....Al Green was right, better try to impeach him with a pathetic attempt than to try to beat him in Nov. As pathetic as it seems, it probably was their only shot. Talk about lowering the bar on 'impeachment'....or throwing the bar away altogether. The Party of the radical Left is on their leg, I swear. They are looking pretty weak. I can't listen to Schiff, Nadler, Schumer or Pelosi. They make me want to do a B-line for the bathroom. Take care, Maryla.

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Feb 3, 2020 10:57:29   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
What he has done in the last 3 years is amazing. I've asked at least a dozen times who could be doing a better job and they don't have the cajones to come up with an answer....because they don't want to look foolish. Two answers so far: Billy boy, the perv ~ not qualified and Joe Biden ~ laughable. That's it Nice try~ no cig. For some reason I think Sanders might be a little tougher than Biden, but bottom line, nobody's going to beat Trump in November. When you go in with an economy so strong....Al Green was right, better try to impeach him with a pathetic attempt than to try to beat him in Nov. As pathetic as it seems, it probably was their only shot. Talk about lowering the bar on 'impeachment'....or throwing the bar away altogether. The Party of the radical Left is on their leg, I swear. They are looking pretty weak. I can't listen to Schiff, Nadler, Schumer or Pelosi. They make me want to do a B-line for the bathroom. Take care, Maryla.
What he has done in the last 3 years is amazing. ... (show quote)



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Feb 3, 2020 11:59:34   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into a silly frenzy, remember of the 3 presidential impeachments, none were removed from office,thanks to partisan support for the guilty.
So Johnson, Clinton and trump were all impeached, and all managed to stay in office. Nixon would have probably been removed, but he had the common sense and decency to resign, unlike the orange stain trump.

And the best is yet to come, since the Bolton book will provide more information for more articles of impeachment, and there is NOTHINg that trump, or his congress critters or all of the trumpcons can do about except whine, cry, snivel, and complain.

Damn shame
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into... (show quote)


See you in November losers

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Feb 3, 2020 13:39:36   #
fullspinzoo
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
See you in November losers


Such scumbags. Couldn't get a job scribbling poetry on a public bathroom wall. Lonesome would get fired for his spelling. You are so right about the loser part. Will be fun to watch our beloved President kick ass in November. Hope we have a repeat of the last election of them crying their eyes out. Never knew they were such a bunch of whining babies. Get the hot cocoa ready, maybe a teddy bear, and a safe space. When will they ever grow up? Who cares?

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Feb 3, 2020 13:47:59   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
maryla wrote:
He did nothing wrong, certainly nothing impeachable and it is you, fact not fiction, who is wasting tax dollars so I hope you complainers shut up.He may have had a questionable past but he is strong, supports religious freedom and has done some awesome things for the economy so it is necessary not to expect too much!


We have to lower our expectations... ok.

We used to have dignified presidents. Lowered that expectation. Hopefully not permanently though. Dignity will return after impotus is gone.

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Feb 3, 2020 13:54:12   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
We have to lower our expectations... ok.

We used to have dignified presidents. Lowered that expectation. Hopefully not permanently though. Dignity will return after impotus is gone.


Dignified? You have to be kidding. Johnson saying I'll have the N-----s voting Democrat for the next 100 years. Kennedy sneaking women into the White House to bed them. Nixon, oh well, you know the result of that. Carter acting like an impotent mouse dealing with Iran. Do I need to continue with the more recent presidents that surely you would be familiar with having been in office during your lifetime?

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Feb 3, 2020 13:56:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
factnotfiction wrote:
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into a silly frenzy, remember of the 3 presidential impeachments, none were removed from office,thanks to partisan support for the guilty.
So Johnson, Clinton and trump were all impeached, and all managed to stay in office. Nixon would have probably been removed, but he had the common sense and decency to resign, unlike the orange stain trump.

And the best is yet to come, since the Bolton book will provide more information for more articles of impeachment, and there is NOTHINg that trump, or his congress critters or all of the trumpcons can do about except whine, cry, snivel, and complain.

Damn shame
And before all of you trumpcons work yourself into... (show quote)


I'm betting the Bolton book doesn't even say what the leakers are saying it says.

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Feb 3, 2020 13:56:45   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Dignified? You have to be kidding. Johnson saying I'll have the N-----s voting Democrat for the next 100 years. Kennedy sneaking women into the White House to bed them. Nixon, oh well, you know the result of that. Carter acting like an impotent mouse dealing with Iran. Do I need to continue with the more recent presidents that surely you would be familiar with having been in office during your lifetime?


Impotus has superceded all these snippets in incredible fashion. And you guys all salivate all over his antics like he's a hero. He's a world-wide joke and impotus's base is unaware.

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