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Jan 29, 2020 01:39:04   #
JimMe
 
In 2016, there was an outcry for Electoral Delegates who were suppose to vote for Donald Trump to instead vote for Hillary Clinton... And those Delegates could do this, because the US Constitution doesn't stipulate them to vote for who they are suppose to...

The fact USA Citizens were requesting such a misappropriate action is in and of itself deplorable... And it proves that legal actions need to take place to never have it occur...

An Amendment needs to be passed and Ratified that simply states:
States must have their Electoral Delegates cast their votes for the winners of their own State's Presidential and Vice-Presidential Elections.

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Jan 29, 2020 02:34:42   #
PeterS
 
JimMe wrote:
In 2016, there was an outcry for Electoral Delegates who were suppose to vote for Donald Trump to instead vote for Hillary Clinton... And those Delegates could do this, because the US Constitution doesn't stipulate them to vote for who they are suppose to...

The fact USA Citizens were requesting such a misappropriate action is in and of itself deplorable... And it proves that legal actions need to take place to never have it occur...

An Amendment needs to be passed and Ratified that simply states:
States must have their Electoral Delegates cast their votes for the winners of their own State's Presidential and Vice-Presidential Elections.
In 2016, there was an outcry for Electoral Delegat... (show quote)

Eh, it doesn't matter. The majority of electors always do that anyway and I don't think an election has ever been decided by someone voting their conscience instead of for the minority. The outcry in 2016 was because the majority voted for Hillary but the minority candidate was elected anyway. Personally I think it worked out the way it should have worked out because majorities can always change and while it worked against Democrats, in this case, it could well work in Democrats favor in future elections.

What needs to be understood is that Trump won by only 77,000 votes spread over three states so if Hillary had simply paid more attention to any one of three states she would have won instead of lost the election. While I think there were many factors that worked against Hillary it still comes down to her failure as a candidate for the reason she lost the election. 2016 was an election where the worst of two horrible candidates won. I don't see that happening again which is why I don't see a reason to tear up how the framers wrote the Constitution.

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Jan 29, 2020 06:46:14   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
PeterS wrote:
Eh, it doesn't matter. The majority of electors always do that anyway and I don't think an election has ever been decided by someone voting their conscience instead of for the minority. The outcry in 2016 was because the majority voted for Hillary but the minority candidate was elected anyway. Personally I think it worked out the way it should have worked out because majorities can always change and while it worked against Democrats, in this case, it could well work in Democrats favor in future elections.

What needs to be understood is that Trump won by only 77,000 votes spread over three states so if Hillary had simply paid more attention to any one of three states she would have won instead of lost the election. While I think there were many factors that worked against Hillary it still comes down to her failure as a candidate for the reason she lost the election. 2016 was an election where the worst of two horrible candidates won. I don't see that happening again which is why I don't see a reason to tear up how the framers wrote the Constitution.
Eh, it doesn't matter. The majority of electors al... (show quote)


Agree with your statement. The Electoral College "levels the playing field" between the large populated coastal areas (California, New York, etc.) and the small middle states. Which means - you gotta fight for your political life EVERYWHERE. As stated above - Hilary did not do the job - so she deserved to lose. That is the beauty of the Electoral College; it means that EVERY voter needs to be touched; every voters vote counts.

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Jan 29, 2020 09:27:23   #
Lonewolf
 
JimMe wrote:
In 2016, there was an outcry for Electoral Delegates who were suppose to vote for Donald Trump to instead vote for Hillary Clinton... And those Delegates could do this, because the US Constitution doesn't stipulate them to vote for who they are suppose to...

The fact USA Citizens were requesting such a misappropriate action is in and of itself deplorable... And it proves that legal actions need to take place to never have it occur...

An Amendment needs to be passed and Ratified that simply states:
States must have their Electoral Delegates cast their votes for the winners of their own State's Presidential and Vice-Presidential Elections.
In 2016, there was an outcry for Electoral Delegat... (show quote)


We could accomplish the same thing by geting rid of them and ,just have popular vote!

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Jan 29, 2020 11:08:06   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Lonewolf wrote:
We could accomplish the same thing by geting rid of them and ,just have popular vote!


Read post above, or better yet since you have trouble with words, have someone else read it to you real slow.

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Jan 31, 2020 01:13:31   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
I remember in 1976 one of the delegates voted for Howard the Duck . I don't recall if anyone got in trouble for it.

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Jan 31, 2020 03:25:18   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
PeterS wrote:
Eh, it doesn't matter. The majority of electors always do that anyway and I don't think an election has ever been decided by someone voting their conscience instead of for the minority. The outcry in 2016 was because the majority voted for Hillary but the minority candidate was elected anyway. Personally I think it worked out the way it should have worked out because majorities can always change and while it worked against Democrats, in this case, it could well work in Democrats favor in future elections.

What needs to be understood is that Trump won by only 77,000 votes spread over three states so if Hillary had simply paid more attention to any one of three states she would have won instead of lost the election. While I think there were many factors that worked against Hillary it still comes down to her failure as a candidate for the reason she lost the election. 2016 was an election where the worst of two horrible candidates won. I don't see that happening again which is why I don't see a reason to tear up how the framers wrote the Constitution.
Eh, it doesn't matter. The majority of electors al... (show quote)




Peter,
I'm impressed, perfectly, constitutionally, literate, bipartisanshiply stated.

Jack

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