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Jan 20, 2020 15:22:36   #
son of witless
 
4430 wrote:
Yep any President can in the future be removed for office thru an illegal coup !

In the event they could get control of all three branches that would spell the end of the Republic and Constitution !


Exactly. These tactics for stealing power have not as yet worked. If they do, watch out. Both parties go with whatever works. Just like when Demo-Rats set loose the nuclear option and later Republicans used it back on them. Pelosi is old. Apparently she don't care about the future and what she might have unleashed.

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Jan 20, 2020 15:25:33   #
Seth
 
straightUp wrote:
I'm gonna say that's all on you. I never actually said that, nor do I think it, nor do I think it's even possible for one faction for have everything right. In fact, I take the conservative side on a number of issues.


No, the Democrats don't think the content of their Articles of Impeachment are enough, in fact they know they're not.

They're just so desperate they'll try anything they can to get President Trump out of the way before November, because they know that none of their primary line-up can even come close to defeating him in the general election.

A clown show is a clown show. Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg and Bernie, sounds more like a comedy troupe than a line of contenders for the highest office in the land.

Had we not already gone through two years of "collusion," the demand for the president's tax returns, Stormy Daniels, "emoluments," et cetera, et cetera, an unending series of attacks by the Democrats (Pelosi, Noodler & Schitt, sounds like one of those law firms that specialize in frivolous litigation and advertise on late night TV and bus stop benches), these latest "charges" might actually be taken at least 3% seriously by the odd mongoloid or, in the same basic class, left leaning American. However, when one party spends three continuous years mounting one attack after another it becomes more tiresome to most people than anything else, surely nothing to do anything more than yawn over as one makes a note to vote for the person under constant attack rather than the aggressive toilet cakes doing the attacking.

It's a constant source of amazement to me that the Democrats doing this have managed to become so disconnected from the mindset of the average American that they truly don't see how badly this non-stop assault on Trump, a duly elected president, is going to hurt them come November.

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Jan 20, 2020 15:32:16   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you feel even a slight irritation in your eye ? Mathew 7:3 " and beholdest thou the mote in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye. "

When I posted that list of federal politicians that were convicted of crime, there were two columns... one with the list of Republicans and the other, a list of Democrats, therefore I HAVE considered "the beam in my own eye". But since my entire argument is to show conservatives who insist they are standing on higher ground, empirical evidence that their own side is actually more criminal, Mathew 7:3 does seem appropriate. So thanks for bringing that up ;)

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Jan 20, 2020 15:34:33   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
I have several; a Marlin 336C, a Mossberg 12 gauge, a Safari Arms Enforcer, a Glock 23 and a Colt Python, had all of them for years, and you know what?

Not a single one of them has ever suddenly leaped up of its own volition and shot anybody.

Maybe I just have them trained right...


Yeah that’s it, the last massive shooting where the guy killed 33 people in 3 seconds, he didn’t train em right.

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Jan 20, 2020 15:38:37   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
When I posted that list of federal politicians that were convicted of crime, there were two columns... one with the list of Republicans and the other, a list of Democrats, therefore I HAVE considered "the beam in my own eye". But since my entire argument is to show conservatives who insist they are standing on higher ground, empirical evidence that their own side is actually more criminal, Mathew 7:3 does seem appropriate. So thanks for bringing that up ;)


Well let’s face it straight, they’ve never been good with numbers, look at the budget every time they get a hold of it. lol

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Jan 20, 2020 15:40:42   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yeah that’s it, the last massive shooting where the guy killed 33 people in 3 seconds, he didn’t train em right.


But the firearm didn't do it... The shooter did.

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Jan 20, 2020 15:40:44   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yeah that’s it, the last massive shooting where the guy killed 33 people in 3 seconds, he didn’t train em right.


Not to worry. ..i have trained spike to train others, he likes his too



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Jan 20, 2020 15:41:42   #
Seth
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Not to worry. ..i have trained spike to train others, he likes his too



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Jan 20, 2020 15:49:03   #
son of witless
 
straightUp wrote:
When I posted that list of federal politicians that were convicted of crime, there were two columns... one with the list of Republicans and the other, a list of Democrats, therefore I HAVE considered "the beam in my own eye". But since my entire argument is to show conservatives who insist they are standing on higher ground, empirical evidence that their own side is actually more criminal, Mathew 7:3 does seem appropriate. So thanks for bringing that up ;)


I say that your whole premise is flawed. I have a really hard time with the numbers of your two lists, because humans being what they are, I tend to think that randomly Democrats and Republicans should over a long time come out roughly even just by the law of averages. The fact that your list has Republicans coming out way way way higher on convictions leads me to several possible conclusions.

First, that your list is grossly inaccurate. Since I cannot prove that and I am not in the mood to try, I will pass for now. Second, that you are right and Republicans are by nature more dishonest than Democrats. I seriously doubt it. Third, that Democrats being far more devious than Republicans are just better at avoiding detection and conviction. Hmm, could be.

Fourth, and this is the one I am going with. Your premise is flawed as far as Republican verses Democratic voters because you simply do not account for the voters reactions after convictions. That is the real test.

Well there is actually a fifth. Nationally Republicans outnumber Democrats by so many that the greater numbers simply mathematically produce more criminals even when the %s are equal. I do not believe that one for a second because nationally there are many stupid voters.

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Jan 20, 2020 15:55:13   #
Cuda2020
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
We have that now sitting in the Big chair......come join us, be part of of this awsome time in America.

Times are good Indeed...cuda


Maybe you should be on the receiving side of Trump,s insults for awhile, no president has ever disparaged other Americans as this tyrant has. He thinks this will expand his base, I don’t think so. He has the gall to criticize generals and other officers who have served, where does he get off, he’s just another high dollar draft dodger daddy paid for. Maybe if he went he would’ve grown some balls along with some humility 😊👍

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Jan 20, 2020 16:01:29   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Maybe you should be on the receiving side of Trump,s insults for awhile, no president has ever disparaged other Americans as this tyrant has. He thinks this will expand his base, I don’t think so. He has the gall to criticize generals and other officers who have served, where does he get off, he’s just another high dollar draft dodger daddy paid for. Maybe if he went he would’ve grown some balls along with some humility 😊👍



Hey....i get insulted daily cuda, mind over matter....I don't mind, they usually don't matter

Sticks and stones my friend.........you shouldn't care so much, in the end......it matters not.

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Jan 20, 2020 16:03:20   #
Cuda2020
 
son of witless wrote:
I say that your whole premise is flawed. I have a really hard time with the numbers of your two lists, because humans being what they are, I tend to think that randomly Democrats and Republicans should over a long time come out roughly even just by the law of averages. The fact that your list has Republicans coming out way way way higher on convictions leads me to several possible conclusions.

First, that your list is grossly inaccurate. Since I cannot prove that and I am not in the mood to try, I will pass for now. Second, that you are right and Republicans are by nature more dishonest than Democrats. I seriously doubt it. Third, that Democrats being far more devious than Republicans are just better at avoiding detection and conviction. Hmm, could be.

Fourth, and this is the one I am going with. Your premise is flawed as far as Republican verses Democratic voters because you simply do not account for the voters reactions after convictions. That is the real test.

Well there is actually a fifth. Nationally Republicans outnumber Democrats by so many that the greater numbers simply mathematically produce more criminals even when the %s are equal. I do not believe that one for a second because nationally there are many stupid voters.
I say that your whole premise is flawed. I have a ... (show quote)



You’re kidding on this one right.
Third, that Democrats being far more devious than Republicans are just better at avoiding detection and conviction. That’s Trump’s sign.

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Jan 20, 2020 16:04:32   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Maybe you should be on the receiving side of Trump,s insults for awhile, no president has ever disparaged other Americans as this tyrant has. He thinks this will expand his base, I don’t think so. He has the gall to criticize generals and other officers who have served, where does he get off, he’s just another high dollar draft dodger daddy paid for. Maybe if he went he would’ve grown some balls along with some humility 😊👍


Yep Democrats a never say anything bad or derogatory about any Americans do they ?

Maybe Trump did dodge the Draft and maybe his Dad did buy him out I don't know that to be true nor do you for that matter of fact but it's always a good talking point you all like to use !

In 1965 I was about to be drafted into the Army for 2 yrs , but I volunteered for 4 yrs in the Air Force in which I spent my last year in Vietnam !

If you were old enough back then did you serve if so were you drafted or did you volunteer ?

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Jan 20, 2020 16:07:18   #
Cuda2020
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Hey....i get insulted daily cuda, mind over matter....I don't mind, they usually don't matter

Sticks and stones my friend.........you shouldn't care so much, in the end......it matters not.


Yeah so do I but do you really hold the POTUS as the same standard as a common thug.
I guess I have higher standards for the POTUS

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Jan 20, 2020 16:11:49   #
Cuda2020
 
4430 wrote:
Yep Democrats a never say anything bad or derogatory about any Americans do they ?

Maybe Trump did dodge the Draft and maybe his Dad did buy him out I don't know that to be true nor do you for that matter of fact but it's always a good talking point you all like to use !

In 1965 I was about to be drafted into the Army for 2 yrs , but I volunteered for 4 yrs in the Air Force in which I spent my last year in Vietnam !

If you were old enough back then did you serve if so were you drafted or did you volunteer ?
Yep Democrats a never say anything bad or derogato... (show quote)


He is a representative of our country, with that comes a greater responsibility then some slob. Now I see where the problem lies, you have no minimum standard.

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