Questions for Socialists: Do you trust the government?’ Traditionally, their answer will be, ‘No, I don’t trust the government.' Then why do you want to make government bigger? ‘Well...

American Vet

Do you trust the government?’
Traditionally, their answer will be, ‘No, I don’t trust the government.'

Then why do you want to make government bigger?
‘Well, I don’t want to make government bigger,’” is the traditional response.

Kevyn

American Vet wrote:

Do you trust the government?’
Traditionally, their answer will be, ‘No, I don’t trust the government.'

Then why do you want to make government bigger?
‘Well, I don’t want to make government bigger,’” is the traditional response.

The government is how we decide to make it, I have a role in who the mayor member of congress senator and president are. I have no control over the corporations that effect me on a daily basis. Reducing their power and giving more of it to the people suits me just fine. By the way this isn’t socialism it is simply regulated capitalism.

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Kevyn wrote:

The government is how we decide to make it, I have a role in who the mayor member of congress senator and president are. I have no control over the corporations that effect me on a daily basis. Reducing their power and giving more of it to the people suits me just fine. By the way this isn’t socialism it is simply regulated capitalism.

When one ideology controls education (via schools, "continuing education", mainstream media that is proven to be biased, and even the entertainment industry), then that ideology, not the indoctrinated sheep, is in control. As proven in the impeachment fiasco coming out of the house, leftists aren't interested in fairness or the will of the people who elected Trump, rather, they insist on controlling the narrative, and making up both the rules of engagement, and the laws by which to judge people, as they go along, to benefit only themselves.

Many of us learned at very young ages that people who did things like that were "cheaters." Apparently, leftists learned how to make cheating into an art form, and are now bragging about their superior understanding and intelligence.

Those of us with actual morals see things differently...and always will.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Kevyn wrote:

The government is how we decide to make it, I have a role in who the mayor member of congress senator and president are. I have no control over the corporations that effect me on a daily basis. Reducing their power and giving more of it to the people suits me just fine. By the way this isn’t socialism it is simply regulated capitalism.

You already have power over corporations. No corporation has a gun to your head forcing you to buy their product or services.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Wolf counselor wrote:

You already have power over corporations. No corporation has a gun to your head forcing you to buy their product or services.

Beat me to it. Damn he’s dumb.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Wolf counselor wrote:

You already have power over corporations. No corporation has a gun to your head forcing you to buy their product or services.

A corporate economic culture is the water in which Americans swim. I consume as little as possible but it is impossible to avoid the corporate culture. Health care, home buying, food and clothing, (even after buying local) are all contacts with corporations. Computers, travel, art....politics, all are corporate interfaces.

I have known folks, left and right, who have rebelled against the system and are now off grid. They are what used to be called hermits. I can't do that, nor do I want to.

To Kevyn's point: government is the one point of contact I have with corporate culture where what I say by voting might actually matter. So while it may be economically rational for a manufacturing plant to dispose of waste chemicals in a nearby water source, I may not want my drinking water poisoned. The only way to stop that is enough citizens demanding change and voting that way.

There's a reason that 'big government' came about--big corporations.

bilordinary Loc: SW Washington

Kevyn wrote:

The government is how we decide to make it, I have a role in who the mayor member of congress senator and president are. I have no control over the corporations that effect me on a daily basis. Reducing their power and giving more of it to the people suits me just fine. By the way this isn’t socialism it is simply regulated capitalism.

Regulated capitalism??? Wouldn't that be Fascism? Business owned privately but controlled by gov.

Kevyn

Wolf counselor wrote:

You already have power over corporations. No corporation has a gun to your head forcing you to buy their product or services.

Not a gun to your head but no choice, who do you get electricity and fuel from. How can you stop emissions from a factory that pollutes your air, noise from rail yards or trucks using jake brakes. How do you have a choice of where to shop when Walmart puts all the other business in town out of business. The government is your tool to provide services the market can’t or won’t and to regulate corporations who have a duty to shareholders to act immorally and to your detriment.

Kevyn

bilordinary wrote:

Regulated capitalism??? Wouldn't that be Fascism? Business owned privately but controlled by gov.

Nope not even close.

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

American Vet

Kevyn wrote:

The government is your tool.

Back to question #1: Do you trust the government?

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Kevyn wrote:

Not a gun to your head but no choice, who do you get electricity and fuel from. How can you stop emissions from a factory that pollutes your air, noise from rail yards or trucks using jake brakes. How do you have a choice of where to shop when Walmart puts all the other business in town out of business. The government is your tool to provide services the market can’t or won’t and to regulate corporations who have a duty to shareholders to act immorally and to your detriment.

I get electricity from a provider of my choice, maybe you should move from the commie state you live in if you want choice.

We scrub emissions, besides, there are no plants doing that within my area I chose to live in...again, move.

I do not live near an inner city rail yard, stupid place to make a choice to live there.. again, move.

I like millions of others have seen the signs,,,,no jake brakes for the next ten miles...again, move from the slum area next to a freeway.

Walmart does not put any businesses near me out of business, and I do not ever shop in a walmart for anything....again, move to where you have a choice, nobody is going to open up a business in a slum and get robbed twice a week...that was your choice to be there, again...move.

the problem seems to be yours, move away.....far, far away....I hear Canada is nice this time if year, real liberal the way you like it..plenty of flamers for you to fluff and protect.

what else can I solve for you? nothing...good, now move!!

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

American Vet wrote:

Do you trust the government?’
Traditionally, their answer will be, ‘No, I don’t trust the government.'

Then why do you want to make government bigger?
‘Well, I don’t want to make government bigger,’” is the traditional response.

I control how money is spent in my household - I have ZERO control over how my money is spent by the government , they TELL me how much money I will give them and will deprive me of my freedom and worldly goods if I refuse.

Hurray for Capitalism!

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

lpnmajor wrote:

I control how money is spent in my household - I have ZERO control over how my money is spent by the government , they TELL me how much money I will give them and will deprive me of my freedom and worldly goods if I refuse.

Hurray for Capitalism!

Socialism takes it all.....and points you to the bread line....yea, much better deal.

MalG

Do you believe in god?

Big Kahuna

Kevyn wrote:

The government is how we decide to make it, I have a role in who the mayor member of congress senator and president are. I have no control over the corporations that effect me on a daily basis. Reducing their power and giving more of it to the people suits me just fine. By the way this isn’t socialism it is simply regulated capitalism.

I trust business more than big government. Big government can put you in prison and kill you for opposing it. Big business may be corrupt but at least I don't fear them barging into my house, dragging me out and throwing me in prison without due process and then quietly exterminating me for opposing their leftist ideology.