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Dec 20, 2019 16:37:02   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around is the support Trump has been getting from Christians. (Or at least people who call themselves Christians). Trump is probably the most immoral person ever to serve as president... to the point where he actually takes pride in how immoral he is. So the support he's been getting from Evangelists (certainly not the Catholics) really doesn't make any sense.

Well, today a pillar of that Evangelism, Christianity Today, has come out with a strong statement, calling Trump out for what he really is.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

The article mentions that the Democrats have been relentless in their prosecution of Trump since day one but unlike many others on the right, CT didn't let that reality eclipse the reality of Trump's immoral sins. The article says...

"The facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

CT is calling for Trump's removal. I applaud their stance and wonder how long will take for the other Christians still supporting him to wash the politics off their sense of morals and take the step to reconsider their position the way I always thought good Christians would.

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Dec 20, 2019 16:46:08   #
Iliamna1
 
Yes. Then we can elevate ourselves to the REAL morals of the left, like abortion on demand, murder of babies after they're born, open borders, unabated sexual deviancy in every form known, open borders, destruction of a free market, making freedom of speech illegal. I could go on, but it's a waste of time. The left has NO moral supremacy, just Trump hatred.

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Dec 20, 2019 16:50:14   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Yes. Then we can elevate ourselves to the REAL morals of the left, like abortion on demand, murder of babies after they're born, open borders, unabated sexual deviancy in every form known, open borders, destruction of a free market, making freedom of speech illegal. I could go on, but it's a waste of time. The left has NO moral supremacy, just Trump hatred.


Yes, you are absolutely correct, but the Progressives hate Trump so much that nothing else matters.

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Dec 20, 2019 16:50:56   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around is the support Trump has been getting from Christians. (Or at least people who call themselves Christians). Trump is probably the most immoral person ever to serve as president... to the point where he actually takes pride in how immoral he is. So the support he's been getting from Evangelists (certainly not the Catholics) really doesn't make any sense.

Well, today a pillar of that Evangelism, Christianity Today, has come out with a strong statement, calling Trump out for what he really is.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

The article mentions that the Democrats have been relentless in their prosecution of Trump since day one but unlike many others on the right, CT didn't let that reality eclipse the reality of Trump's immoral sins. The article says...

"The facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

CT is calling for Trump's removal. I applaud their stance and wonder how long will take for the other Christians still supporting him to wash the politics off their sense of morals and take the step to reconsider their position the way I always thought good Christians would.
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around... (show quote)


Before you get all giddy you might ought to check this out.

https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/franklin-graham-dad-voted-trump/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking

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Dec 20, 2019 16:54:36   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around is the support Trump has been getting from Christians. (Or at least people who call themselves Christians). Trump is probably the most immoral person ever to serve as president... to the point where he actually takes pride in how immoral he is. So the support he's been getting from Evangelists (certainly not the Catholics) really doesn't make any sense.

Well, today a pillar of that Evangelism, Christianity Today, has come out with a strong statement, calling Trump out for what he really is.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

The article mentions that the Democrats have been relentless in their prosecution of Trump since day one but unlike many others on the right, CT didn't let that reality eclipse the reality of Trump's immoral sins. The article says...

"The facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

CT is calling for Trump's removal. I applaud their stance and wonder how long will take for the other Christians still supporting him to wash the politics off their sense of morals and take the step to reconsider their position the way I always thought good Christians would.
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around... (show quote)

Christianity Today is a bunch of apostates. The Bible warned us about this.

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Dec 20, 2019 17:23:39   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
https://www.learnreligions.com/top-christian-magazines-700327

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Dec 20, 2019 17:31:09   #
truthiness
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Yes. Then we can elevate ourselves to the REAL morals of the left, like abortion on demand, murder of babies after they're born, open borders, unabated sexual deviancy in every form known, open borders, destruction of a free market, making freedom of speech illegal. I could go on, but it's a waste of time. The left has NO moral supremacy, just Trump hatred.

...

Has anyone considered the possibility that both parties are wrong---e.g., that both the obvious immorality of Trump's republican party and the democrats' support of abortion, sexual deviancy, etc. are equally bad; that immoral ends do not justify moral ends regardless of which party promotes it.

It seems that the assumption is that if the other side is wrong, my side must be right, which is narrow logic and myopic vision.

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Dec 20, 2019 17:44:39   #
truthiness
 
Parky60 wrote:
Christianity Today is a bunch of apostates. The Bible warned us about this.


Good list--thanks.

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Dec 20, 2019 17:47:05   #
Rose42
 
straightUp wrote:
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around is the support Trump has been getting from Christians. (Or at least people who call themselves Christians). Trump is probably the most immoral person ever to serve as president... to the point where he actually takes pride in how immoral he is. So the support he's been getting from Evangelists (certainly not the Catholics) really doesn't make any sense.

Well, today a pillar of that Evangelism, Christianity Today, has come out with a strong statement, calling Trump out for what he really is.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

The article mentions that the Democrats have been relentless in their prosecution of Trump since day one but unlike many others on the right, CT didn't let that reality eclipse the reality of Trump's immoral sins. The article says...

"The facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

CT is calling for Trump's removal. I applaud their stance and wonder how long will take for the other Christians still supporting him to wash the politics off their sense of morals and take the step to reconsider their position the way I always thought good Christians would.
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around... (show quote)


It was one man's opinion. And Christianity Today is not a pillar of biblical Christianity.

I'm not condemning what he said just pointing that out.

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Dec 20, 2019 17:52:19   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://www.learnreligions.com/top-christian-magazines-700327

Your above that says "Christianity Today" is a top magazine is from 10 years ago
from 2/09

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Dec 20, 2019 18:09:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
straightUp wrote:
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around is the support Trump has been getting from Christians. (Or at least people who call themselves Christians). Trump is probably the most immoral person ever to serve as president... to the point where he actually takes pride in how immoral he is. So the support he's been getting from Evangelists (certainly not the Catholics) really doesn't make any sense.

Well, today a pillar of that Evangelism, Christianity Today, has come out with a strong statement, calling Trump out for what he really is.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

The article mentions that the Democrats have been relentless in their prosecution of Trump since day one but unlike many others on the right, CT didn't let that reality eclipse the reality of Trump's immoral sins. The article says...

"The facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

CT is calling for Trump's removal. I applaud their stance and wonder how long will take for the other Christians still supporting him to wash the politics off their sense of morals and take the step to reconsider their position the way I always thought good Christians would.
One of the things I just can't wrap my head around... (show quote)





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Dec 20, 2019 18:20:36   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Crayons wrote:
Your above that says "Christianity Today" is a top magazine is from 10 years ago
from 2/09

It is stated at the very beginning as being updated June 25th, 2019 by Mary Fairchild.

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Dec 20, 2019 18:35:28   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
truthiness wrote:
...

Has anyone considered the possibility that both parties are wrong---e.g., that both the obvious immorality of Trump's republican party and the democrats' support of abortion, sexual deviancy, etc. are equally bad; that immoral ends do not justify moral ends regardless of which party promotes it.

It seems that the assumption is that if the other side is wrong, my side must be right, which is narrow logic and myopic vision.


Howdy, howdy. You said..... "obvious immorality of Trump's republican party.". Please clarify, validate and restate what exactly those obvious immoralities are because all I'm seeing and hearing is what Progressives and their propaganda arm, The MSM, claim. I remember when we used to have an objective and free press. Please also include what conservatives have done that, as you claim, is equal to killing 60 plus million unborn children.

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Dec 20, 2019 18:50:18   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
That's funny, I used to live on Church Street, I doubt it was the same state.

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Dec 20, 2019 19:00:56   #
truthiness
 
truthiness wrote:
Good list--thanks.


sorry--wrong addressee.

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