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Jun 17, 2014 21:12:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Finally, an admission from ...

Bloomberg's Top Advocate Admits Gun Control Proposals Wouldn't Stop Mass Shootings
Katie Pavlich | Jun 16, 2014

Meet Mark Glaze, the former executive director and face of Michael Bloomberg's Everytown For Gun Safety, a group that used to be called Mayors Against Illegal Guns [MAIG]. Whenever a mass shooting occurs (which despite popular belief and hysteria from the media, isn't happening more frequently than it used to), Glaze takes to the airwaves to demand new gun control legislation, specifically expanded background checks.

As of Friday, Glaze left his post with MAIG Everytown and is admitting in an exit interview with the Wall Street Journal that the proposals outlined by the gun control group and sent to Congress, would not have prevented mass shootings in the past and won't stop them in the future. (bolding is mine)

Mr. Glaze said the movement hasn’t solved one of its signature problems: Many mass shootings wouldn’t have been stopped by tighter regulations proposed by gun-control advocates, even if they might have prevented other gun crimes.

The most attention on gun control comes after mass shootings – just look at the post-Newtown push and the brief attention paid to the issue after the Memorial Day weekend shootings in Isla Vista, Calif. Yet virtually none of the solutions gun-control groups are pushing would have prevented any of the massacres that capture public attention.

“Because people perceive a mismatch in the policy solutions that we have to offer and the way some of these mass shootings happened, you know, it is a messaging problem for us, I think. … Is it a messaging problem when a mass shooting happens and nothing that we have to offer would have stopped that mass shooting? Sure it’s a challenge in this issue.”

So there you have it. Like we've always known and through their own admission, gun control advocates aren't actually about solving problems, but instead are about giving the government more control over your life. Their goal is to strip Americans of their constitutionally protected Second Amendment rights and they use the crisis of mass shootings as a stomping ground to do so. Their proposals don't work to prevent mass shootings, but we can at least thank Glaze for being honest (this time). Keep his words in mind next time Bloomberg's anti-gun ghouls shriek for more restrictions and knee jerk legislation in the wake of a tragedy.

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Jun 17, 2014 21:23:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Finally, an admission from ...

Bloomberg's Top Advocate Admits Gun Control Proposals Wouldn't Stop Mass Shootings
Katie Pavlich | Jun 16, 2014

Meet Mark Glaze, the former executive director and face of Michael Bloomberg's Everytown For Gun Safety, a group that used to be called Mayors Against Illegal Guns [MAIG]. Whenever a mass shooting occurs (which despite popular belief and hysteria from the media, isn't happening more frequently than it used to), Glaze takes to the airwaves to demand new gun control legislation, specifically expanded background checks.

As of Friday, Glaze left his post with MAIG Everytown and is admitting in an exit interview with the Wall Street Journal that the proposals outlined by the gun control group and sent to Congress, would not have prevented mass shootings in the past and won't stop them in the future. (bolding is mine)

Mr. Glaze said the movement hasn’t solved one of its signature problems: Many mass shootings wouldn’t have been stopped by tighter regulations proposed by gun-control advocates, even if they might have prevented other gun crimes.

The most attention on gun control comes after mass shootings – just look at the post-Newtown push and the brief attention paid to the issue after the Memorial Day weekend shootings in Isla Vista, Calif. Yet virtually none of the solutions gun-control groups are pushing would have prevented any of the massacres that capture public attention.

“Because people perceive a mismatch in the policy solutions that we have to offer and the way some of these mass shootings happened, you know, it is a messaging problem for us, I think. … Is it a messaging problem when a mass shooting happens and nothing that we have to offer would have stopped that mass shooting? Sure it’s a challenge in this issue.”

So there you have it. Like we've always known and through their own admission, gun control advocates aren't actually about solving problems, but instead are about giving the government more control over your life. Their goal is to strip Americans of their constitutionally protected Second Amendment rights and they use the crisis of mass shootings as a stomping ground to do so. Their proposals don't work to prevent mass shootings, but we can at least thank Glaze for being honest (this time). Keep his words in mind next time Bloomberg's anti-gun ghouls shriek for more restrictions and knee jerk legislation in the wake of a tragedy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :... (show quote)


I think that both of us may be preaching to the choir. I'm not sure how many fence sitters will be convinced.

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Jun 17, 2014 22:17:45   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Loki wrote:
I think that both of us may be preaching to the choir. I'm not sure how many fence sitters will be convinced.


evidently drugs and alcohol do not mix.

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Jun 17, 2014 22:49:15   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Rufus wrote:
evidently drugs and alcohol do not mix.


:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

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Jun 17, 2014 22:56:21   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
AuntiE wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Finally, an admission from ...

Bloomberg's Top Advocate Admits Gun Control Proposals Wouldn't Stop Mass Shootings
Katie Pavlich | Jun 16, 2014

Meet Mark Glaze, the former executive director and face of Michael Bloomberg's Everytown For Gun Safety, a group that used to be called Mayors Against Illegal Guns [MAIG]. Whenever a mass shooting occurs (which despite popular belief and hysteria from the media, isn't happening more frequently than it used to), Glaze takes to the airwaves to demand new gun control legislation, specifically expanded background checks.

As of Friday, Glaze left his post with MAIG Everytown and is admitting in an exit interview with the Wall Street Journal that the proposals outlined by the gun control group and sent to Congress, would not have prevented mass shootings in the past and won't stop them in the future. (bolding is mine)

Mr. Glaze said the movement hasn’t solved one of its signature problems: Many mass shootings wouldn’t have been stopped by tighter regulations proposed by gun-control advocates, even if they might have prevented other gun crimes.

The most attention on gun control comes after mass shootings – just look at the post-Newtown push and the brief attention paid to the issue after the Memorial Day weekend shootings in Isla Vista, Calif. Yet virtually none of the solutions gun-control groups are pushing would have prevented any of the massacres that capture public attention.

“Because people perceive a mismatch in the policy solutions that we have to offer and the way some of these mass shootings happened, you know, it is a messaging problem for us, I think. … Is it a messaging problem when a mass shooting happens and nothing that we have to offer would have stopped that mass shooting? Sure it’s a challenge in this issue.”

So there you have it. Like we've always known and through their own admission, gun control advocates aren't actually about solving problems, but instead are about giving the government more control over your life. Their goal is to strip Americans of their constitutionally protected Second Amendment rights and they use the crisis of mass shootings as a stomping ground to do so. Their proposals don't work to prevent mass shootings, but we can at least thank Glaze for being honest (this time). Keep his words in mind next time Bloomberg's anti-gun ghouls shriek for more restrictions and knee jerk legislation in the wake of a tragedy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thanks Auntie, it's preaching to the choir in my case but who knows whom it may possibly reach on the other side?

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Jun 17, 2014 23:08:29   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
dennisimoto wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thanks Auntie, it's preaching to the choir in my case but who knows whom it may possibly reach on the other side?


No one! :!: :!: It does not suit their meme.

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Jun 17, 2014 23:42:19   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Rufus wrote:
evidently drugs and alcohol do not mix.


But they DO mix! Frequently, and with the same, inevitable results. I have said it over and over, gun control only affects law abiding citizens - who are not the problem.

Not providing copious amounts of mental health facilities and prison space is the largest issue. The second largest issue is a criminal justice system that provides more rights for criminals than it does for their victims. Writing stupid laws is cheaper than dealing with the above issues. Our Congress would rather spend billions on weapon systems the military doesn't want, than spend that money on REAL solutions.

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Jun 18, 2014 00:32:20   #
rumitoid
 
AuntiE wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Finally, an admission from ...

Bloomberg's Top Advocate Admits Gun Control Proposals Wouldn't Stop Mass Shootings
Katie Pavlich | Jun 16, 2014

Meet Mark Glaze, the former executive director and face of Michael Bloomberg's Everytown For Gun Safety, a group that used to be called Mayors Against Illegal Guns [MAIG]. Whenever a mass shooting occurs (which despite popular belief and hysteria from the media, isn't happening more frequently than it used to), Glaze takes to the airwaves to demand new gun control legislation, specifically expanded background checks.

As of Friday, Glaze left his post with MAIG Everytown and is admitting in an exit interview with the Wall Street Journal that the proposals outlined by the gun control group and sent to Congress, would not have prevented mass shootings in the past and won't stop them in the future. (bolding is mine)

Mr. Glaze said the movement hasn’t solved one of its signature problems: Many mass shootings wouldn’t have been stopped by tighter regulations proposed by gun-control advocates, even if they might have prevented other gun crimes.

The most attention on gun control comes after mass shootings – just look at the post-Newtown push and the brief attention paid to the issue after the Memorial Day weekend shootings in Isla Vista, Calif. Yet virtually none of the solutions gun-control groups are pushing would have prevented any of the massacres that capture public attention.

“Because people perceive a mismatch in the policy solutions that we have to offer and the way some of these mass shootings happened, you know, it is a messaging problem for us, I think. … Is it a messaging problem when a mass shooting happens and nothing that we have to offer would have stopped that mass shooting? Sure it’s a challenge in this issue.”

So there you have it. Like we've always known and through their own admission, gun control advocates aren't actually about solving problems, but instead are about giving the government more control over your life. Their goal is to strip Americans of their constitutionally protected Second Amendment rights and they use the crisis of mass shootings as a stomping ground to do so. Their proposals don't work to prevent mass shootings, but we can at least thank Glaze for being honest (this time). Keep his words in mind next time Bloomberg's anti-gun ghouls shriek for more restrictions and knee jerk legislation in the wake of a tragedy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :... (show quote)


There is absolutely no way to know that a mass shooting may or may not have been prevented by reasonable gun control. Ease of access to an assault weapon with an enormous clip capacity where certain controls may have made such access either impossible or difficult could spell the difference. The fact one would resist such measures based on the assumption it was "unlikely" to deter seems rather callous.

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Jun 18, 2014 00:39:42   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
rumitoid wrote:
There is absolutely no way to know that a mass shooting may or may not have been prevented by reasonable gun control. Ease of access to an assault weapon with an enormous clip capacity where certain controls may have made such access either impossible or difficult could spell the difference. The fact one would resist such measures based on the assumption it was "unlikely" to deter seems rather callous.


Pay very careful attention. I have posted this before. Try reading it this time. The National Firearms Act of 1934 prohibits the purchase of "assault weapons". You must have a BAFTE Background check and pay a $200 licensing fee to own an "assault weapon". You might want to learn what an assault weapon is before you comment.

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Jun 18, 2014 00:53:55   #
rumitoid
 
AuntiE wrote:
Pay very careful attention. I have posted this before. Try reading it this time. The National Firearms Act of 1934 prohibits the purchase of "assault weapons". You must have a BAFTE Background check and pay a $200 licensing fee to own an "assault weapon". You might want to learn what an assault weapon is before you comment.


And 50 bullet capacity clips and a kit bought at gun shows to make a weapon automatic? Unmonitored purchases on the internet? There are not enough controls period--and these are not infringements but sensible laws to conform to the spirit of the right and its commiserate responsibility.

I was in the service. I am familiar with assault weapons.

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Jun 18, 2014 07:46:24   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
There is absolutely no way to know that a mass shooting may or may not have been prevented by reasonable gun control. Ease of access to an assault weapon with an enormous clip capacity where certain controls may have made such access either impossible or difficult could spell the difference. The fact one would resist such measures based on the assumption it was "unlikely" to deter seems rather callous.


More people have died from the 2500 weapons the BATFE "lost" during Fast and Furious than the "assault" weapons currently in this country. Not one BATFE Agent has been held accountable. NOT ONE. At least 2 Americans, and around 300 Mexicans have died from these weapons. IF you want reasonable gun control, I think it would be reasonable to start with BATFE, which basically commits more crimes than it prosecutes. You want gun control, but you stubbornly ignore the fact that it would be implemented by the most corrupt Federal Bureaucracy that has ever existed. This Agency is a cancer, which mostly goes into remission during Republican Administrations, (none of which has had the gonads to go after these arrogant clowns ), and metastasizes every time a Democrat gets into the White House.
The FBI catches far more criminals, and sees them successfully prosecuted. They also do it for a lot less money. That's the difference between Professional Law Enforcement and Professional Thugs.

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Jun 18, 2014 07:51:29   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Loki wrote:
More people have died from the 2500 weapons the BATFE "lost" during Fast and Furious than the "assault" weapons currently in this country. Not one BATFE Agent has been held accountable. NOT ONE. At least 2 Americans, and around 300 Mexicans have died from these weapons. IF you want reasonable gun control, I think it would be reasonable to start with BATFE, which basically commits more crimes than it prosecutes. You want gun control, but you stubbornly ignore the fact that it would be implemented by the most corrupt Federal Bureaucracy that has ever existed. This Agency is a cancer, which mostly goes into remission during Republican Administrations, (none of which has had the gonads to go after these arrogant clowns ), and metastasizes every time a Democrat gets into the White House.
The FBI catches far more criminals, and sees them successfully prosecuted. They also do it for a lot less money. That's the difference between Professional Law Enforcement and Professional Thugs.
More people have died from the 2500 weapons the BA... (show quote)


:thumbup: Good post. Another example of Barry Hussein Osama promoting the killing of innocent Americans. It is weird. Holder actually had a pretty good work history until he went to work for Satan.

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Jun 18, 2014 08:00:19   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
And 50 bullet capacity clips and a kit bought at gun shows to make a weapon automatic? Unmonitored purchases on the internet? There are not enough controls period--and these are not infringements but sensible laws to conform to the spirit of the right and its commiserate responsibility.

I was in the service. I am familiar with assault weapons.


Then you know conversion is not a simple matter. You apparently don't know that the sale of such kits is tightly regulated, and gun shows, generally, are crawling with undercover BATFE Agents just aching to bust someone for a minor infraction, much less a biggie like conversion kits.

Before you say much about "mail order conversion kits," I suggest you read the link I have provided below.






http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/dias.html

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Jun 18, 2014 08:02:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Rufus wrote:
:thumbup: Good post. Another example of Barry Hussein Osama promoting the killing of innocent Americans. It is weird. Holder actually had a pretty good work history until he went to work for Satan.


Holder was a major player for the Clinton/Reno cabal who brough us Ruby Ridge and Waco. A major contributor to the Clinton semi-auto ban that accomplished nothing. Holder is a weasel for sale to the highest bidder.

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Jun 18, 2014 08:05:27   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
rumitoid wrote:
And 50 bullet capacity clips and a kit bought at gun shows to make a weapon automatic? Unmonitored purchases on the internet? There are not enough controls period--and these are not infringements but sensible laws to conform to the spirit of the right and its commiserate responsibility.

I was in the service. I am familiar with assault weapons.


Any laws whatsoever regarding weapons are infringements. Any time the government gets involved it is bad. The government does not know when to stop. There should be no gun laws period. We must have our guns to protect ourselves from the government first and against other criminals second.

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