woodguru

So now your leader who can do no wrong is showing a disrespect and disregard for the military, the super strict laws and regulations it operates under, and is undermining it's leadership. The military operates under a chain of command and respect for discipline that is as absolute as anything we have in this country.

He interfered in a disciplinary process down at rank and file level that would be unheard of for any officer let alone the commander in chief at the top, which basically undermines every officer down the line.

Gallagher did the things Trump interfered with, the one that he was not acquitted of because it was a picture that proved a violation of military code...one that absolutely had to be responded to with punishment that fit a strict set of inflexible guidelines.

So to run his mouth off about what a brave honorable guy this is, and even entertain the concept of parading him before the country at campaign rallies is beyond anything conceivable in terms of destroying the absolute discipline and message about the UCMC, or Uniform Code of Military Conduct.

So do you as the america loving patriots you profess to be, actually act like one and recognize how bad what trump is doing to the military code of ethics, or do you step one more step deeper supporting this clueless moron? If it's the latter you do not know what a patriot is, you are fake or alt patriots.

woodguru

The problems with Gallagher need to be remembered for perspective, something trump should have paid closer attention to rather than listening to the FOX drivel that influenced him.

Gallagher was charged, whether he was acquitted or not makes no difference because he did these things, with killing civilians, people who were not enemy soldiers. The military has strict rules about who is considered an enemy, and it does not come down to the "wait until you are shot at" rhetoric. A sniper can consider certain targets fair game, he was not differentiating the way his fellow men saw it.

This was not an honorable good man, he was a bad soldier, something trump is drawn to.

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

Wow, now woodglue is the arbiter of what a patriot is. I don't think so. To me you are an anti-American alt patriot.

woodguru

I am a patriot enough to be deeply disturbed by this president and GOP who refuse to do anything about Russian election interference even if it's just to keep it from happening again. Trump has defunded and gutted efforts to defend our country against future incursions, the senate has refused to pass any of the more than dozen bills regarding elections and cyber interference.

I am patriot enough to know that Trump chooses aiding Putin rather than our ally the Ukraine, his withholding military aid being a direct benefit to Russia not having their tanks wiped out with US anti tank weapons...

And I will save you from the rhetorical lie that we gave them anti tank weapons, because they came with a do not use on the front lines restriction because trump was worried about Putin's reaction. And I'll ask you, where else would they be used but on the border against Russian tanks?

woodguru

...and for your information weewilly, I've served as a nuclear systems analyst, and know a fair amount about the nuclear capabilities we have and what they can and can't do. And I apparently know a whole boatload more about the adversarial relationship between Russia and the US that has and is still there. Trump is aiding and abetting an extremely dangerous adversary, if not enemy.

Dwight Logan

Oh omnicient one, Even though you are more brilliant then Einstein in you own mind I would not trust you to write the alphabet.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

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I do not know the specifics of this man's offenses beyond the photo sin, but I do agree with maintaining the chain of command. And I do not know why Trump chose to let him off the hook.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief of America's armed forces, he is at the top of the chain of command. As Truman put it, the buck stops with him.

Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher Acquitted of War Crimes Charges by Court Martial

A court-martial panel at Naval Base San Diego found Navy Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher not guilty of all but one charge in a seven-count indictment that included premeditated murder. He was convicted of disobeying a lawful general regulation by posing with the corpse of an ISIS fighter in a photo.

This is one of those cases that never should have been brought based on the evidence. It further demonstrated that the institutional Navy had decided that it needed Gallagher’s scalp hanging on its lodgepole to remind the warriors in the field that it is actually the fat-assed, bespectacled, gender-questioning types (NTTAWWT) who call the shots in today’s Navy.

The nitwits and boobs who comprise the NCIS (the real one, not the bullsh** television show) seemingly slanted statements to show criminality. The lead NCIS investigator was accused of shaping and coaching testimony of the people he interviewed. The prosecutor in the case used a type of malware to monitor the communications of Gallagher’s attorney and was dismissed. There was no body and no autopsy. Apparently, there was actual film of the incident that cleared Gallagher but the case was pressed anyway. The government’s lead witness, a Navy Corpsman testifying under a grant of immunity…said that he, himself, killed the ISIS fighter. The Navy’s own expert testified that he didn’t have a clue as to what killed the fighter because there was no body. A witness said Gallagher didn’t kill the prisoner.

All in all, the Navy pulled out all the stops to convict Gallagher. When President Trump broached the idea of pardoning him, a platoon of tame, stump-broke veterans appeared to convict Gallagher as a callous murderer and claim that his pardon would turn our armed forces into marauders who, to quote some famous dipwad, “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.”

In the end, he was convicted of something that should never have been taken to a court-martial, to begin with.

Gallagher faces up to four months confinement but he’s served over that amount of time in pre-trial confinement because the Navy tried to make him out to be some guy who was threatening witnesses (note he was acquitted of that charge). So, after sentencing, Gallagher walks. Gallagher was within just a few months of retirement when he was charged. He’s probably fully eligible now. The question is whether the Navy cuts its losses and lets him go or digs in and tries to give him a discharge under other than honorable conditions. He could also end up being discharged as an E=1 because if the court-martial panel imposes confinement at hard labor, an automatic reduction to the lowest enlisted grade goes along with it even if the punishment doesn’t specify the reduction in rank.

There are other guys either in prison or currently on parole who were railroaded just as certainly as the Navy tried to railroad Chief Gallagher. President Trump should, at a minimum, appoint a fact-finding commission to look at those convictions if not outright pardon them.

The NCIS and the navy prosecutors totally screwed the pooch in their attempt to destroy Chief Gallagher.

Article 80 Attempted Murder NOT GUILTY
Article 118 Premeditated Murder NOT GUILTY
Article 128 Aggravated Assault with a Dangerous Weapon x2 on non-combatants NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Firearm, discharging-willfully, under such circumstances as to endanger human life at non-combatants NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Obstructing Justice (three counts) NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Wrongfully pose for an unofficial picture with a human casualty GUILTY
Article 134 Wrongfully complete reenlistment ceremony next to a human casualty NOT GUILTY
Article 134 Wrongfully Operate a drone over a human casualty NOT GUILTY
Article 112a Wrongful Use of a Controlled Substance – Tramadol Hydrochloride NOT GUILTY
Article 112a Unlawful Possession of a Controlled Substance – Sustanon-250 NOT GUILTY

Edward Gallagher: 19 Year Service Member

Joined July 28th 1999

Marine Corps
Medic/Corpsman for platoon
7 month Combat Deployment – 2000 Deployment – Mediterranean/Kosovo
Sea Service Deployment Ribbon

Marine Corps
Sniper/Corpsman
Marine Corps Water Instructor Survival Specialist – MCWISS

Marine Corps
9 month combat Deployment during invasion of – Mosul/Africa 2003
Marine Corpsman/Medic/Sniper
Combat Action Ribbon

Basic Underwater Demolition/ NSWC – 2004
SEAL Qualification Training Graduation 2005
SEALTEAM ONE – 2005
18 Delta Field Medic Course – 2005

SEAL Team One
Special Operator 2nd Class – SO2
Plt Medic, Sniper, Corpsman
2 Troop Delta PLT
Combat deployed to Iraq 2006-2007
Navy commendation medal with V for Valor / combat action ribbon / Iraqi campaign / Afghanistan Campaign /Sea Service Deployment Ribbon

SEAL Team One
Special Operator 1st Class – SO1
Lead Sniper / Platoon Medic / Lead Breacher / Fire Team Leader
2 troop Delta platoon,
Combat Deployment – Afghanistan 2009-2010
Combat Action / Afghanistan Campaign / Bronze Star with V for Valor

Naval Special warfare Center BUDS Instructor
Master Training SpecialistSpecial Operator 1st class,
2010-2012

SEAL Team Seven -2012-2017
Special Operator 1st class, SO1
2 troop, Delta platoon
Squad leader, lead sniper, Lead Breacher, fire team leader, Lead Corpsman
Combat Deployment – Afghanistan 2013
Army commendation medal, Navy Commendation Medal, Combat action ribbon with gold star insignia for multiple combat deployments

SEAL Team 7
Charlie Platoon– Lead Petty Officer of plt, SO1
Crisis Response element
Deployment United Arab Emirates– 2014-2015
Navy Commendation medal
SEAL Team 7 – Sailor of the quarter
SEAL Team 7 – Sailor of the year
Naval Special Warfare Group One- Sailor of the year
Number one E6 at Command

SEAL Team 7
Alpha Platoon – Special Operator Chief, E-7
Combat Deployment – Mosul, 2016-2017
Number one Chief at SEAS Team 7 Command

Awards:
2 Bronze Stars with V for Valor
Meritorious Unit Commendation
Presidential Unit Citation
2 Navy Commendation Medals
3 Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals – 1 with V for Valor
4 Good conduct awards

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

As the Civil War was ending, president Lincoln spoke about bringing the Confederate states back into the Union. A wealthy old Yankee dowager admonished him. She told him that he should punish the rebels, that he should destroy his enemies. Lincoln replied, "Madam, do I not destroy my enemies by making them my friends?"

Russia today IS NOT America's most dangerous adversary, and president Trump is not in any way aiding and abetting any Russian attempt to destroy America. Of course, how could you possibly understand what he is actually trying to do in establishing a workable relationship with not only Russia but other hostile nations as well.

It is ironic that you progressives condemn president Trump for attempting to negotiate peaceful relations with communist regimes when your progressive ideology is in fact a spawn of Marxist philosophy.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Is there ANYTHING you haven't done, or aren't an expert on?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Thinking the same thing Arch. Just because he pushed a model submarine around a bathtub as a kid doesn’t make him an expert on nuclear anything. He’s full of crap.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

The chain of command ends with the Commander and Chief, which is the president of the USA. Luzzem!!!

youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart

Great set of lefty talking points you got there woodglue. With your vast nuclear system analysis, maybe you could solve Japan's problem with Fukashima.

Rose42

You were a desk jockey in other words. The military has some pretty impressive sounding MOS’s but the actual job isn’t impressive.

Its very clear you don’t know a thing about specops.

2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

I will tell you why the Chief was gotten after. Its because Obama and his affection for the Radical Muslims that he put into place the most anti American Rules of engagement for our war fighters that ended up being the cause of many Americans killed over there in the middle east. The fact that with him, Clinton and the rest of his F@#$ed up administration assisted in the rise of ISIS. That's why he called them ISIL instead. If it were possible and it stil might be the both of them Obama and Clinton should be charged with war crimes and treason against our own military troops.