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Jun 10, 2014 18:31:13   #
Brian Devon
 
From Mother Jones magazine.


"With a new mass shooting hitting the news every day now, it's difficult to feel secure in the world at large...You can relax, though, there is a solution.

Nope, Congress isn't doing anything. Nope, the president isn't doing anything. Nope, the NRA hasn't suddenly come out in favor of gun control.

In fact , the country has pretty much resigned itself to the fact that we're just going to watch the body count rise. That's what they call American ingenuity, you know, facing a problem head on and deciding it's too tough to solve.

There is a solution. For the first time ever, you can prepare your children for the potential war zone, known as the local elementary school with......bullet proof blankets."

The Bodyguard blanket has been designed to be bulletproof , made from the same materials used by U.S. law enforcement and soldiers.

The manufacturer brags that it provides protection against all of the weapons that have been used in school shootings in the United States.




I am sure the U.K. and Japan will be green with envy that their children don't get to wear these and don't get to play another round of bullet dodgeball.

Will this blanket armor manufacturer be making body bags for the kids that lose at this new game?

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Jun 10, 2014 18:41:18   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Brian Devon wrote:
From Mother Jones magazine.


"With a new mass shooting hitting the news every day now, it's difficult to feel secure in the world at large...You can relax, though, there is a solution.

Nope, Congress isn't doing anything. Nope, the president isn't doing anything. Nope, the NRA hasn't suddenly come out in favor of gun control.

In fact , the country has pretty much resigned itself to the fact that we're just going to watch the body count rise. That's what they call American ingenuity, you know, facing a problem head on and deciding it's too tough to solve.

There is a solution. For the first time ever, you can prepare your children for the potential war zone, known as the local elementary school with......bullet proof blankets."

The Bodyguard blanket has been designed to be bulletproof , made from the same materials used by U.S. law enforcement and soldiers.

The manufacturer brags that it provides protection against all of the weapons that have been used in school shootings in the United States.

I am sure the U.K. and Japan will be green with envy that their children don't get to wear these and don't get to play another round of bullet dodgeball.

Will this blanket armor manufacturer be making body bags for the kids that lose at this new game?
From Mother Jones magazine. br br br "With ... (show quote)


I first thought this was satire. No, it's real
http://www.cnet.com/news/bulletproof-bodyguard-blanket-designed-to-shield-schoolkids/

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Jun 10, 2014 18:43:46   #
Brian Devon
 
TroubleshooterTim wrote:



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As real as a heart attack.

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Jun 10, 2014 19:31:47   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Brian Devon wrote:
From Mother Jones magazine.


"With a new mass shooting hitting the news every day now, it's difficult to feel secure in the world at large...You can relax, though, there is a solution.

Nope, Congress isn't doing anything. Nope, the president isn't doing anything. Nope, the NRA hasn't suddenly come out in favor of gun control.

In fact , the country has pretty much resigned itself to the fact that we're just going to watch the body count rise. That's what they call American ingenuity, you know, facing a problem head on and deciding it's too tough to solve.

There is a solution. For the first time ever, you can prepare your children for the potential war zone, known as the local elementary school with......bullet proof blankets."

The Bodyguard blanket has been designed to be bulletproof , made from the same materials used by U.S. law enforcement and soldiers.

The manufacturer brags that it provides protection against all of the weapons that have been used in school shootings in the United States.




I am sure the U.K. and Japan will be green with envy that their children don't get to wear these and don't get to play another round of bullet dodgeball.

Will this blanket armor manufacturer be making body bags for the kids that lose at this new game?
From Mother Jones magazine. br br br "With ... (show quote)


What could possibly be next? A bomb/rocket shelter on every corner like Isreal?

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Jun 10, 2014 19:39:21   #
Brian Devon
 
[quote=archie bunker]What could possibly be next? A bomb/rocket shelter on every corner like Isreal?


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Israel has to deal with defending itself from people who do not wish to acknowledge the Jewish state's very right to exist. They have a lot of bomb shelters because they don't have a lot of options.

The U.S. has many options to stop gun violence. The question remains does the nation have the will to enact sensible gun legislation which will bring our gun violence rates down to the miniscule levels of the United Kingdom and Japan. These are two nations that don't believe in a "guns everywhere policy".

The fact that this bullet blanket story is on the news is rather pathetic. Americans may as well have tatoos across their foreheads that say "I'm proud to be too stupid to change".

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Jun 10, 2014 19:47:38   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
[quote=Brian Devon]
archie bunker wrote:
What could possibly be next? A bomb/rocket shelter on every corner like Isreal?


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Israel has to deal with defending itself from people who do not wish to acknowledge the Jewish state's very right to exist. They have a lot of bomb shelters because they don't have a lot of options.

The U.S. has many options to stop gun violence. The question remains does the nation have the will to enact sensible gun legislation which will bring our gun violence rates down to the miniscule levels of the United Kingdom and Japan. These are two nations that don't believe in a "guns everywhere policy".

The fact that this bullet blanket story is on the news is rather pathetic. Americans may as well have tatoos across their foreheads that say "I'm proud to be too stupid to change".
What could possibly be next? A bomb/rocket shelter... (show quote)


What are your "sensible gun legislation" ideas? There are currently three hundred gun control laws on the books which prosecutors and the DOJ DO NOT enforce.

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Jun 10, 2014 20:02:21   #
Brian Devon
 
AuntiE wrote:
What are your "sensible gun legislation" ideas? There are currently three hundred gun control laws on the books which prosecutors and the DOJ DO NOT enforce.


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Me? I would like the courts to recognize the validity of the argument of former Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stevens, who noted,that we have not had "well maintained militias" since the civil war.

We have every right to infringe on the rights of those who want to own readily concealable handguns as well as assault rifles. We have every right to pursue laws that will bring our gun death rates in line with those of the industrialized democracies of the U.K., and Japan, two of our very closest allies.

I agree with the efforts of Mayor Bloomberg, who would like for this nation to stand up to the gun manufacturers and their "honey bucket carriers" over at the NRA.

I hope our president is able to make a reduction in this nation's shocking level of gun violence during the last two and a half years of his tenure as president.

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Jun 10, 2014 20:17:51   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
[quote=Brian Devon]
archie bunker wrote:
What could possibly be next? A bomb/rocket shelter on every corner like Isreal?


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Israel has to deal with defending itself from people who do not wish to acknowledge the Jewish state's very right to exist. They have a lot of bomb shelters because they don't have a lot of options.

The U.S. has many options to stop gun violence. The question remains does the nation have the will to enact sensible gun legislation which will bring our gun violence rates down to the miniscule levels of the United Kingdom and Japan. These are two nations that don't believe in a "guns everywhere policy".

The fact that this bullet blanket story is on the news is rather pathetic. Americans may as well have tatoos across their foreheads that say "I'm proud to be too stupid to change".
What could possibly be next? A bomb/rocket shelter... (show quote)


What would be sensible? I agree that legitimate nut jobs who put out signs, and have family contacting law enforcement about them should be handled very agressivly. The Cai. law enforcement dropped the ball, as did sandy hook. But it needs to be such that Brian can't call and say Archie is crazy and he shouldn't own a gun.
The mental health issue in this country needs attention desperatly. Don't give me Reagen...I know.
My piont is that it has to be sensible. I don't honestly think we can get there with the current political environment.
That being said. Your self rightous complacncy does nothing to help, or advance the conversation.
Every gun I own was purchased legally with money earned by my wife, or myself. We have never commited a crime. Never harmed, or threatened to harm anyone. Why should we be required to give up our honestly earned, and purchased property??
Making guns illegal, and gun owners criminals is NOT the answer. We need to think about the mental health issue. That would include doctors who prescribe all these crazy drugs to anybody and everybody they see. Lets take a look at big pharma. for a change.

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Jun 10, 2014 20:32:05   #
Brian Devon
 
archie bunker wrote:
What would be sensible? I agree that legitimate nut jobs who put out signs, and have family contacting law enforcement about them should be handled very agressivly. The Cai. law enforcement dropped the ball, as did sandy hook. But it needs to be such that Brian can't call and say Archie is crazy and he shouldn't own a gun.
The mental health issue in this country needs attention desperatly. Don't give me Reagen...I know.
My piont is that it has to be sensible. I don't honestly think we can get there with the current political environment.
That being said. Your self rightous complacncy does nothing to help, or advance the conversation.
Every gun I own was purchased legally with money earned by my wife, or myself. We have never commited a crime. Never harmed, or threatened to harm anyone. Why should we be required to give up our honestly earned, and purchased property??
Making guns illegal, and gun owners criminals is NOT the answer. We need to think about the mental health issue. That would include doctors who prescribe all these crazy drugs to anybody and everybody they see. Lets take a look at big pharma. for a change.
What would be sensible? I agree that legitimate nu... (show quote)



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These concepts are not mutually exclusive. There is a case for restricting gun possession to single shot deer rifles as well as reigning in the over prescribing of psychotropic medications.

The "well maintained militias" don't exist. Therefore there is a right to infringe upon easily concealable weapons and rifles that can rapidly fire large amounts of bullets.

Our right to live trumps your right to own a gun arsenal. Maybe you are o.k. dining next to some Texas Rambo, but most of us are not.

For those who don't want to buy their meat at the supermarket and don't want to invest in a quality alarm system, you should be able to buy a classic single shot deer rifle...after passing a background check and being certified in gun safety. It's what first world industrialized democracies require. Then maybe we can have a chance of having the gun death rate of a normal nation.

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Jun 10, 2014 20:53:53   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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These concepts are not mutually exclusive. There is a case for restricting gun possession to single shot deer rifles as well as reigning in the over prescribing of psychotropic medications.

The "well maintained militias" don't exist. Therefore there is a right to infringe upon easily concealable weapons and rifles that can rapidly fire large amounts of bullets.

Our right to live trumps your right to own a gun arsenal. Maybe you are o.k. dining next to some Texas Rambo, but most of us are not.

For those who don't want to buy their meat at the supermarket and don't want to invest in a quality alarm system, you should be able to buy a classic single shot deer rifle...after passing a background check and being certified in gun safety. It's what first world industrialized democracies require. Then maybe we can have a chance of having the gun death rate of a normal nation.
*********** br These concepts are not mutually exc... (show quote)


OK. I tried. You are unwilling to compromise or look at possible solutions. You are an absolutist. Your way or no way. Screw you.

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Jun 10, 2014 20:56:09   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Brian Devon wrote:
*******
Me? I would like the courts to recognize the validity of the argument of former Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stevens, who noted,that we have not had "well maintained militias" since the civil war.

We have every right to infringe on the rights of those who want to own readily concealable handguns as well as assault rifles. We have every right to pursue laws that will bring our gun death rates in line with those of the industrialized democracies of the U.K., and Japan, two of our very closest allies.

I agree with the efforts of Mayor Bloomberg, who would like for this nation to stand up to the gun manufacturers and their "honey bucket carriers" over at the NRA.

I hope our president is able to make a reduction in this nation's shocking level of gun violence during the last two and a half years of his tenure as president.
******* br Me? I would like the courts to recogniz... (show quote)


*******
Me? I would like the courts to recognize the validity of the argument of former Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stevens, who noted,that we have not had "well maintained militias" since the civil war.

Quote:
President John F. Kennedy:
... By calling attention to a well-regulated militia for the security of the Nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fear of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the 2nd amendment, will ever be a major danger to our Nation, the amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic military-civilian relationship, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the 2nd Amendment will always be important."
President John F. Kennedy: br ... By calling atte... (show quote)


Quote:
We have every right to infringe on the rights of those who want to own readily concealable handguns as well as assault rifles.


Do you even know what the definition of an "assault rifles" is? In all likely hood, as the mere mention or sight of a gun creates an adult diaper need for you, the answer is NO!

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I agree with the efforts of Mayor Bloomberg, who would like for this nation to stand up to the gun manufacturers and their "honey bucket carriers" over at the NRA.


The man who has civilian individuals carrying "readily concealable handguns" to protect him. Is there some reason he is so important you would allow him to have such protection you would not allow the regular John/Jane Doe? Oops, I forgot. He is from NY and a rich liberal, hence his rights supersede John/Jane Doe's rights.

Quote:
I hope our president is able to make a reduction in this nation's shocking level of gun violence during the last two and a half years of his tenure as president.


In fact, if you took the time to actually research the DOJ and FBI statistics, you would find gun violence had substantially declined. In fact, there are more deaths, as shown below, unrelated to guns in the US. Perhaps we should work on a few the examples below:

Heart disease is America’s No 1 killer, taking one life every 35 seconds.

Cancer causes one death every 56 seconds.

In hospital 90,000 One American dies in a hospital from a medical error or a lethal infection every 6 minutes

Transport 43,443 One American killed by a traffic accident every 12 minutes

Poisoning 19,457 One American accidentally poisoned to death every 27 minutes

At home 18,048 One American killed in an accident at home every 29 minutes

Falls 17,227 One American killed in a fall every 31 minutes

Drunk driving 16,885 One American killed by a drunk driver every 31 minutes

Drowning 3,306 One American drowned every 159 minutes

In 2012, there were either 81 or 88 murdered in mass shootings, depending on your source. (( Mass murder is considered more than 4 died at a time )) Less than 100 no matter, which source, is used. So if we assume high at 100 homicides from mass murder and assume low at 12,000 annual homicides that means that mass murders account for 0.0083 of all homicides, or a fraction of 1%.

So it is very clear, on the scale of 1 to 1000. The amount of deaths attributed to guns being used for mass murder in the U.S., from all deaths, is less than .oooo1 per cent.

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Jun 10, 2014 21:04:26   #
Brian Devon
 
[quote=AuntiE]

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Jun 10, 2014 21:08:43   #
Airforceone
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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As real as a heart attack.


I am waiting for Nike and under armour to make a bullet proof vest.

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Jun 10, 2014 21:09:50   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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1. It's rather bizarre you would quote John F. Kennedy on the virtues of the second amendment (he got the militia part wrong), in light of his fate. Classy you will never be.

2. You are back to being incredibly rude and nasty after taking a few days off from this behavior. You really do model yourself on the antebellum passive-aggressive m.o. of "southern womanhood". Go make yourself a poison ivy julep.


It truly is painful for individuals, who are frightened of guns, when you provide them with information relevant to other more serious, as well as frequent, causes of death.

There is a quote, for which I know not the author, which says, "I am who I am...Your approval isn't needed. :!: :!: :!:

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Jun 10, 2014 21:13:00   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
archie bunker wrote:
OK. I tried. You are unwilling to compromise or look at possible solutions. You are an absolutist. Your way or no way. Screw you.


I wonder exactly what it would take for Brian to stand up and physically defend anything or anyone. It is my perception he will await defense by the very people he belittles.

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