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Oct 5, 2019 00:47:30   #
rumitoid
 
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and the unexplained. Things that appear to defy our usual understanding of the world. Most of us reach for a reasonable explanation within our knowledge of how reality works, even if it does not totally explain the circumstances. The elements to dismiss depend on questioning the minds of such accounts. And basic physics makes us relax in that look.

Others by their belief system accept such phenomenon as God's will or some other force in the universe. The rational ridicule such beliefs. Nothing in science can account for these occurrences. Psychic power is dismissed as a lucky guess or like reading palms: untrue as to its nature, a scam. The true explanation is eluded by confidence in what science tells us.

But what if it isn't? We assume coincidences are just that, yet the only "proof" of that assumption is what we presently believe, fixed in supposedly strict laws of what is possible. A person gets the sense a long lost friend will call out of the blue, and they do. Nothing in our worldview, as presented by the "professionals," has any margin or space for the reason. It also has no argument against it!

Christians and others claiming miracles, are presumed deluded or sick in some way. Their account of what actually occurred somehow flawed. In the eyes of Science, it has to be. It does not fit their idea of reality. Even with some pretty convincing truth of a miracle, it is assumed that a vital piece of information has been omitted or lost.

There is something more. Rest assured.

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Oct 5, 2019 01:55:39   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and the unexplained. Things that appear to defy our usual understanding of the world. Most of us reach for a reasonable explanation within our knowledge of how reality works, even if it does not totally explain the circumstances. The elements to dismiss depend on questioning the minds of such accounts. And basic physics makes us relax in that look.

Others by their belief system accept such phenomenon as God's will or some other force in the universe. The rational ridicule such beliefs. Nothing in science can account for these occurrences. Psychic power is dismissed as a lucky guess or like reading palms: untrue as to its nature, a scam. The true explanation is eluded by confidence in what science tells us.

But what if it isn't? We assume coincidences are just that, yet the only "proof" of that assumption is what we presently believe, fixed in supposedly strict laws of what is possible. A person gets the sense a long lost friend will call out of the blue, and they do. Nothing in our worldview, as presented by the "professionals," has any margin or space for the reason. It also has no argument against it!

Christians and others claiming miracles, are presumed deluded or sick in some way. Their account of what actually occurred somehow flawed. In the eyes of Science, it has to be. It does not fit their idea of reality. Even with some pretty convincing truth of a miracle, it is assumed that a vital piece of information has been omitted or lost.

There is something more. Rest assured.
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and t... (show quote)



This is a concept I have wrestled with for a long time. There are instances in my life when I have experienced the unexplainable. In considering those events, on the one hand, there is no explaining how an important or necessary solution appeared in the nick of time and on the other hand, when probability is calculated, it falls well into the realm of the probable.

My wife has frequently said of me, "You seem to get what you need all the time, maybe not when you want it but definitely when you need it." The most notable example is a series of misfortunes that befell me that caused me to move to another city. As a result, I was in the one place in the western hemisphere where, at that time, the wherewithal existed to save my life when I suffered a full-blown cardiac arrest in my office.

There have been numerous other examples in my experience of a less dramatic type of incident but with the same kind of circumstances.

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Oct 5, 2019 02:57:34   #
PeterS
 
rumitoid wrote:
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and the unexplained. Things that appear to defy our usual understanding of the world. Most of us reach for a reasonable explanation within our knowledge of how reality works, even if it does not totally explain the circumstances. The elements to dismiss depend on questioning the minds of such accounts. And basic physics makes us relax in that look.

Others by their belief system accept such phenomenon as God's will or some other force in the universe. The rational ridicule such beliefs. Nothing in science can account for these occurrences. Psychic power is dismissed as a lucky guess or like reading palms: untrue as to its nature, a scam. The true explanation is eluded by confidence in what science tells us.

But what if it isn't? We assume coincidences are just that, yet the only "proof" of that assumption is what we presently believe, fixed in supposedly strict laws of what is possible. A person gets the sense a long lost friend will call out of the blue, and they do. Nothing in our worldview, as presented by the "professionals," has any margin or space for the reason. It also has no argument against it!

Christians and others claiming miracles, are presumed deluded or sick in some way. Their account of what actually occurred somehow flawed. In the eyes of Science, it has to be. It does not fit their idea of reality. Even with some pretty convincing truth of a miracle, it is assumed that a vital piece of information has been omitted or lost.

There is something more. Rest assured.
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and t... (show quote)

There is something more? I love the rain--especially when I'm out in it. I feel like everything's been cleansed after a good rain so absolutely no sadness on my part...and I know that wasn't what you meant but I just couldn't resist since not everybody has the same experience. Whats a miracle to one person is just something unexplained to another. The question is, are all unexplained things miracles or simply that which we currently don't understand??? My vote is on the latter given the history of man.

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Oct 5, 2019 03:54:21   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
rumitoid wrote:
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and the unexplained. Things that appear to defy our usual understanding of the world. Most of us reach for a reasonable explanation within our knowledge of how reality works, even if it does not totally explain the circumstances. The elements to dismiss depend on questioning the minds of such accounts. And basic physics makes us relax in that look.

Others by their belief system accept such phenomenon as God's will or some other force in the universe. The rational ridicule such beliefs. Nothing in science can account for these occurrences. Psychic power is dismissed as a lucky guess or like reading palms: untrue as to its nature, a scam. The true explanation is eluded by confidence in what science tells us.

But what if it isn't? We assume coincidences are just that, yet the only "proof" of that assumption is what we presently believe, fixed in supposedly strict laws of what is possible. A person gets the sense a long lost friend will call out of the blue, and they do. Nothing in our worldview, as presented by the "professionals," has any margin or space for the reason. It also has no argument against it!

Christians and others claiming miracles, are presumed deluded or sick in some way. Their account of what actually occurred somehow flawed. In the eyes of Science, it has to be. It does not fit their idea of reality. Even with some pretty convincing truth of a miracle, it is assumed that a vital piece of information has been omitted or lost.

There is something more. Rest assured.
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and t... (show quote)


I'm actually not sad..If i'm home under warm blanket drinking hot tea and watching love story...i'm perfectly ok with rain!!!!

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Oct 5, 2019 03:56:27   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
There is something more? I love the rain--especially when I'm out in it. I feel like everything's been cleansed after a good rain so absolutely no sadness on my part...and I know that wasn't what you meant but I just couldn't resist since not everybody has the same experience. Whats a miracle to one person is just something unexplained to another. The question is, are all unexplained things miracles or simply that which we currently don't understand??? My vote is on the latter given the history of man.
There is something more? I love the rain--especial... (show quote)


That is actually nice Peter.....I didn't know you were such romantic...

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Oct 5, 2019 04:38:50   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
I'm actually not sad..If i'm home under warm blanket drinking hot tea and watching love story...i'm perfectly ok with rain!!!!

My wife's favorite channel is the Hallmark Channel. No matter how hokie she loves a love story--good, bad, or indifferent is all the same to her. That's the only thing that will FORCE us to be in separate rooms--she in the bedroom watching Hallmark and I in the living room watching anything but...

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Oct 5, 2019 04:58:10   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
That is actually nice Peter.....I didn't know you were such romantic...

I don't think romance has anything to do with it. I was born in January, which one associates with the beginning of winter. Whether that's why I love the winter, with the exception of the absolute extreme, I love all types of weather be it rain or snow both make me feel alive.

That said, I was on a crab boat in Alaska and was caught in a squall that lasted several days. I generally love the sea but that was the blackest and ugliest water that I have ever seen. I was scheduled to take the Ferry down to Vancouver but I got off on the first road and while I can still sail, it will never again be in the Bering Sea.

Here is a Youtube video that was taken about the same time I was there. I get queasy watching it...

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Oct 5, 2019 04:58:35   #
Gatsby
 
proud republican wrote:
I'm actually not sad..If i'm home under warm blanket drinking hot tea and watching love story...i'm perfectly ok with rain!!!!


As a farm kid, rain usually meant a short work day, and a chance to go to town, shopping.

What I really like best about rain, I never have to shovel it out of the driveway!

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Oct 5, 2019 16:39:56   #
rumitoid
 
JW wrote:
This is a concept I have wrestled with for a long time. There are instances in my life when I have experienced the unexplainable. In considering those events, on the one hand, there is no explaining how an important or necessary solution appeared in the nick of time and on the other hand, when probability is calculated, it falls well into the realm of the probable.

My wife has frequently said of me, "You seem to get what you need all the time, maybe not when you want it but definitely when you need it." The most notable example is a series of misfortunes that befell me that caused me to move to another city. As a result, I was in the one place in the western hemisphere where, at that time, the wherewithal existed to save my life when I suffered a full-blown cardiac arrest in my office.

There have been numerous other examples in my experience of a less dramatic type of incident but with the same kind of circumstances.
This is a concept I have wrestled with for a long ... (show quote)


I have had many what can be called supernatural events. If you related you had those same experiences, I would be highly skeptical. Ergo, they are pretty much unbelievable. As far as get what you need, I had four. I will give you the best one.

I was working as the manager of an emergency shelter in Las Vegas, NM. Free room and board and a stipend of $100. I was doing a wash and when my three pairs of pants came out the dryer, all were frayed at the knee. This really depressed me. I could not even afford thrift store pants on my money. I paced the living room for about twenty minutes before I was able to get it together and come to a true peace over my situation. At that exact moment of release, there was a knock at the door. I opened it and a man was standing there with pants in his hands. He asked, "Do you take clothing donations?" I answered yes we did and he handed them over. All three pair were 31x31, my perfect size...and not easy to come by.

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Oct 5, 2019 17:49:28   #
Rose42
 
PeterS wrote:
My wife's favorite channel is the Hallmark Channel. No matter how hokie she loves a love story--good, bad, or indifferent is all the same to her. That's the only thing that will FORCE us to be in separate rooms--she in the bedroom watching Hallmark and I in the living room watching anything but...


I think that forces quite a few into separate rooms.

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Oct 5, 2019 18:04:22   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
I think that forces quite a few into separate rooms.


Too literal. Read what was intended.

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Oct 5, 2019 19:47:18   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Too literal. Read what was intended.


Too pompous. Put a sock in it.

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Oct 6, 2019 00:46:16   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
I have had many what can be called supernatural events. If you related you had those same experiences, I would be highly skeptical. Ergo, they are pretty much unbelievable. ...


Please explain what you mean by that.

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Oct 6, 2019 05:41:57   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and the unexplained. Things that appear to defy our usual understanding of the world. Most of us reach for a reasonable explanation within our knowledge of how reality works, even if it does not totally explain the circumstances. The elements to dismiss depend on questioning the minds of such accounts. And basic physics makes us relax in that look.

Others by their belief system accept such phenomenon as God's will or some other force in the universe. The rational ridicule such beliefs. Nothing in science can account for these occurrences. Psychic power is dismissed as a lucky guess or like reading palms: untrue as to its nature, a scam. The true explanation is eluded by confidence in what science tells us.

But what if it isn't? We assume coincidences are just that, yet the only "proof" of that assumption is what we presently believe, fixed in supposedly strict laws of what is possible. A person gets the sense a long lost friend will call out of the blue, and they do. Nothing in our worldview, as presented by the "professionals," has any margin or space for the reason. It also has no argument against it!

Christians and others claiming miracles, are presumed deluded or sick in some way. Their account of what actually occurred somehow flawed. In the eyes of Science, it has to be. It does not fit their idea of reality. Even with some pretty convincing truth of a miracle, it is assumed that a vital piece of information has been omitted or lost.

There is something more. Rest assured.
We have what we call coincidences, miracles, and t... (show quote)


when I was young I asked my father where the rain came from he told me it was God's tears. Why is he crying? Because of all the bad things we do and all the pain and suffering. Why doesn't he stop it? Because he told satan that all his children would come to him satan said they wouldn't they would come to him now satan has 1000 years to work on getting as many of us to follow him . God crys for the lost

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Oct 6, 2019 14:01:34   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
JW wrote:
This is a concept I have wrestled with for a long time. There are instances in my life when I have experienced the unexplainable. In considering those events, on the one hand, there is no explaining how an important or necessary solution appeared in the nick of time and on the other hand, when probability is calculated, it falls well into the realm of the probable.

My wife has frequently said of me, "You seem to get what you need all the time, maybe not when you want it but definitely when you need it." The most notable example is a series of misfortunes that befell me that caused me to move to another city. As a result, I was in the one place in the western hemisphere where, at that time, the wherewithal existed to save my life when I suffered a full-blown cardiac arrest in my office.

There have been numerous other examples in my experience of a less dramatic type of incident but with the same kind of circumstances.
This is a concept I have wrestled with for a long ... (show quote)


What people assume are coincidences are A loving father in heaven choosing to remain anonymous!!!

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