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A verse is "cherry-picked" not by being an exerpt, otherwise we would have to recite the entire Bible for any verse mentioned
Sep 20, 2019 18:01:19   #
rumitoid
 
The Full Gospel would be needed. Conversations would become way too long; the Bible would become boring. We give a verse or two for reference to what we see as supporting the complete truth of God: herein is His Holiness, herein is His Character, herein are his Ways, herein is his Justice and Mercy, herein is his Love. If God said, without any explanation or addendum, why a woman accidentally harmed that produced an abortion did not require a life for a life, we need to see why not. He said it! The context is His Word.

Exodus22:2-14 may be helpful, but not as much as I thought. The abortion was considered an accident. We have different rules for accidents and intent. The perpetrator does not go free and if further harm is done, death awaits. I feel this verse used by those who favor abortion, claiming if the fetus died and only some recompense was assessed, is that the punishment fits the crime. Think about it. You have a barbecue and accidentally burn down your neighbor's house: accident or not you still have to pay, which may seem unfair to wayward perpetrator.

I say "Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength": is that cherry-picking? It is taken out of context? Would the context improve or contradict those words? (But still we should them.) If you believe a verse has been cherry-picked, just don't say so: give evidence for the good of your fellow Christians, the lost, and praise for God's word. This lazy and inane accusation of cherry-picked is not testimony: showing how it is, is needed--if you want to make your point.

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Sep 20, 2019 21:09:21   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Full Gospel would be needed. Conversations would become way too long; the Bible would become boring. We give a verse or two for reference to what we see as supporting the complete truth of God: herein is His Holiness, herein is His Character, herein are his Ways, herein is his Justice and Mercy, herein is his Love. If God said, without any explanation or addendum, why a woman accidentally harmed that produced an abortion did not require a life for a life, we need to see why not. He said it! The context is His Word.

Exodus22:2-14 may be helpful, but not as much as I thought. The abortion was considered an accident. We have different rules for accidents and intent. The perpetrator does not go free and if further harm is done, death awaits. I feel this verse used by those who favor abortion, claiming if the fetus died and only some recompense was assessed, is that the punishment fits the crime. Think about it. You have a barbecue and accidentally burn down your neighbor's house: accident or not you still have to pay, which may seem unfair to wayward perpetrator.

I say "Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength": is that cherry-picking? It is taken out of context? Would the context improve or contradict those words? (But still we should them.) If you believe a verse has been cherry-picked, just don't say so: give evidence for the good of your fellow Christians, the lost, and praise for God's word. This lazy and inane accusation of cherry-picked is not testimony: showing how it is, is needed--if you want to make your point.
The Full Gospel would be needed. Conversations wou... (show quote)


Exodus 22:2-14 has nothing to do with accidental miscarriage. Indeed, it is about someone breaking into your home.... Your second quote is inaccurate, "Love the LORD your G*d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” (Deuteronomy 6:5). The reason for my stiff neck on cherry picking the bible is simple..... give me a book title and using cherry picking I will find phrases or entire paragraphs that can be manipulated to support any argument anyone can present. Try it..... it actually can improve your understanding of the written word.

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Sep 20, 2019 23:51:10   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
It Doesn't Go With-Out Saying
You Read The Whole Chapter, Psalm, Or Proverb ??

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Sep 21, 2019 04:06:26   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Exodus 22:2-14 has nothing to do with accidental miscarriage. Indeed, it is about someone breaking into your home.... Your second quote is inaccurate, "Love the LORD your G*d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” (Deuteronomy 6:5). The reason for my stiff neck on cherry picking the bible is simple..... give me a book title and using cherry picking I will find phrases or entire paragraphs that can be manipulated to support any argument anyone can present. Try it..... it actually can improve your understanding of the written word.
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You said my quote "Love the lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” is inaccurate? (Deuteronomy 6:5) How? Be careful, I already know you are wrong. And can prove it.

Your utterly preposterous claim that Exodus22:2-14 is not about accidental miscarriage is like Trump's denial that he never said anything "inappropriate". Your supposed "stiff neck" on cherry-picking should have provided proof, by context, of your claim Exodus22:2-14 is not about accidental miscarriage.

As usual you make imperial claims without evidence, relying on low-info readers.

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Sep 21, 2019 04:32:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Exodus 22:2-14 has nothing to do with accidental miscarriage. Indeed, it is about someone breaking into your home.... Your second quote is inaccurate, "Love the LORD your G*d with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” (Deuteronomy 6:5). The reason for my stiff neck on cherry picking the bible is simple..... give me a book title and using cherry picking I will find phrases or entire paragraphs that can be manipulated to support any argument anyone can present. Try it..... it actually can improve your understanding of the written word.
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I believe rummy is at war with his own warped beliefs. Wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth, he doesn't have a clue what he is wailing about.

Taken as a whole from all of his posts on the Bible, on Christianity, and on religion in general, I have no doubt that he has never given a study of the Word of God the dedication and diligence it so richly deserves.

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Sep 21, 2019 04:48:38   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I believe rummy is at war with his own warped beliefs. Wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth, he doesn't have a clue what he is wailing about.

Taken as a whole from all of his posts on the Bible, on Christianity, and on religion in general, I have no doubt that he has never given a study of the Word of God the dedication and diligence it so richly deserves.


Here is the freaking topic, and it is not me, lol: cherry-picking Bible verses. Why do you make it personal all the time. Topic too tough for you? This your habit and most on the Right: attack the messenger and avoid the sticky and troublesome mess that is indefensible by you. More for your bonfire whooping thinking a Lefty is burning by your insults.

What is even worse, you are not aware of this propensity; it is part of your faith.

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Sep 21, 2019 05:38:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
You said my quote "Love the lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” is inaccurate? (Deuteronomy 6:5) How? Be careful, I already know you are wrong. And can prove it.

Your utterly preposterous claim that Exodus22:2-14 is not about accidental miscarriage is like Trump's denial that he never said anything "inappropriate". Your supposed "stiff neck" on cherry-picking should have provided proof, by context, of your claim Exodus22:2-14 is not about accidental miscarriage.

As usual you make imperial claims without evidence, relying on low-info readers.
You said my quote "Love the lord your God wit... (show quote)


You omitted "LORD" which is a Tetragrammaton.

Exodus 22 is quoted from KJV

1 If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.
2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double.
5 If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, and shall put in his beast, and shall feed in another man's field; of the best of his own field, and of the best of his own vineyard, shall he make restitution.
6 If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith; he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
7 If a man shall deliver unto his neighbour money or stuff to keep, and it be stolen out of the man's house; if the thief be found, let him pay double.
8 If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges, to see whether he have put his hand unto his neighbour's goods.
9 For all manner of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing which another challengeth to be his, the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; and whom the judges shall condemn, he shall pay double unto his neighbour.
10 If a man deliver unto his neighbour an ass, or an ox, or a sheep, or any beast, to keep; and it die, or be hurt, or driven away, no man seeing it:
11 Then shall an oath of the Lord be between them both, that he hath not put his hand unto his neighbour's goods; and the owner of it shall accept thereof, and he shall not make it good.
12 And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof.
13 If it be torn in pieces, then let him bring it for witness, and he shall not make good that which was torn.
14 And if a man borrow ought of his neighbour, and it be hurt, or die, the owner thereof being not with it, he shall surely make it good.


Please point out to me how any of this deals with miscarriage. Perhaps you were intending to use Exodus 22 verse 21.

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Sep 21, 2019 05:46:05   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You omitted "LORD" which is a Tetragrammaton.

Exodus 22 is quoted from KJV

1 If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.
2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double.
5 If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, and shall put in his beast, and shall feed in another man's field; of the best of his own field, and of the best of his own vineyard, shall he make restitution.
6 If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith; he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
7 If a man shall deliver unto his neighbour money or stuff to keep, and it be stolen out of the man's house; if the thief be found, let him pay double.
8 If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges, to see whether he have put his hand unto his neighbour's goods.
9 For all manner of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing which another challengeth to be his, the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; and whom the judges shall condemn, he shall pay double unto his neighbour.
10 If a man deliver unto his neighbour an ass, or an ox, or a sheep, or any beast, to keep; and it die, or be hurt, or driven away, no man seeing it:
11 Then shall an oath of the Lord be between them both, that he hath not put his hand unto his neighbour's goods; and the owner of it shall accept thereof, and he shall not make it good.
12 And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof.
13 If it be torn in pieces, then let him bring it for witness, and he shall not make good that which was torn.
14 And if a man borrow ought of his neighbour, and it be hurt, or die, the owner thereof being not with it, he shall surely make it good.


Please point out to me how any of this deals with miscarriage. Perhaps you were intending to use Exodus 22 verse 21.
You omitted "LORD" which is a Tetragramm... (show quote)


Lol, you are too much. Can't explain it to you. Screw it, I will try. The subject is to cherry-pick, so why my (inaccurate) quote about love of the Lord. (And why isn't it "L--d"?)

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Sep 21, 2019 06:05:45   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I believe rummy is at war with his own warped beliefs. Wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth, he doesn't have a clue what he is wailing about.

Taken as a whole from all of his posts on the Bible, on Christianity, and on religion in general, I have no doubt that he has never given a study of the Word of God the dedication and diligence it so richly deserves.


Your point, in my opinion, is correct. But, I think he has studied....but has limited himself to the letters of Saul/Paul.

He recently had another health scare (cancer, last time it was heart issues) and it has dawned on him that he is mortal, like the rest of us, and will die. Along with death comes judgement for all sins he has not repented. In short, he fears judgment and resents death.

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Sep 21, 2019 06:26:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
Lol, you are too much. Can't explain it to you. Screw it, I will try. The subject is to cherry-pick, so why my (inaccurate) quote about love of the Lord. (And why isn't it "L--d"?)


The correct quote includes the word LORD, in all caps. Go look it up.

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