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Sep 21, 2019 16:27:19   #
sambev
 
Most of you will have to admit that neither Democrats nor Republicans are always right. For 48 of my 73 years I was a Democrat, but I finally wised up. Any group who supports killing babies and legalizing sin is morally bankrupt, and that's the deal-breaker for me and my family and friends. Sometimes I cringe at the things Trump says, but I believe he's the man whom God has anointed to fulfill His purposes. I also have come to believe Trump is crazy like a fox,in that many of his comments are designed to do exactly what they've done, make the liberal democrats look like fools when they protest. As for whether he should speak to heads of foreign governments secretly is a moot question. To protect our interests and safety, there are various times and issues when private citizens have no need to know what was said. That's the reason we vote for a president to take care of those instances. It's common sense. I make no apologies for voting for Obama the first time; I sincerely believed that was the right thing to do. I now know I was so wrong, but while Obama was my president, he received the respect due the president of the US.

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Sep 21, 2019 17:00:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"LOL - call it whatever you want... they way I see it, you're just frustrated that you can't stand up to the argument." - straightUp

The way you see it?!
The frustration I see daily is from the Left.
Losing is a bitch!

America is winning!
That seems to be hard to swallow on the Left.


"LOL - call it whatever you want... they way I see it, you're just frustrated that you can't stand up to the argument." - straightUp

The way you see it?!
The frustration I see daily is from the Left.
Losing is a bitch!

America is winning!
That seems to be hard to swallow by the Left.

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Sep 21, 2019 17:38:47   #
Seth
 
sambev wrote:
Most of you will have to admit that neither Democrats nor Republicans are always right. For 48 of my 73 years I was a Democrat, but I finally wised up. Any group who supports killing babies and legalizing sin is morally bankrupt, and that's the deal-breaker for me and my family and friends. Sometimes I cringe at the things Trump says, but I believe he's the man whom God has anointed to fulfill His purposes. I also have come to believe Trump is crazy like a fox,in that many of his comments are designed to do exactly what they've done, make the liberal democrats look like fools when they protest. As for whether he should speak to heads of foreign governments secretly is a moot question. To protect our interests and safety, there are various times and issues when private citizens have no need to know what was said. That's the reason we vote for a president to take care of those instances. It's common sense. I make no apologies for voting for Obama the first time; I sincerely believed that was the right thing to do. I now know I was so wrong, but while Obama was my president, he received the respect due the president of the US.
Most of you will have to admit that neither Democr... (show quote)



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Sep 21, 2019 19:09:28   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
Seth - before you start shooting your mouth - make sure you can actually back it up. As far as I know there is ZERO evidence that Obama tried to hide communications with foreign leaders. He might have had a moment or two alone with a few of them but he wasn't hiding it. That means one of two things... Either he didn't or if he did, it didn't involve any concern that would cause anyone to blow a whistle.

Maybe you just wish Obama was as bad as Trump. Well, this is going to piss off the racists on this site but he isn't. In fact, Obama is ten times the man Trump could ever be. The vast majority of the people in the world admire and respect Obama while they look at Trump with utter disgust. I know you know this seth.

Don't you get tired of always trying to justify what Trump does by pretending that Obama did it too in an effort to pull the hypocrisy card on liberals? It's such and old and ineffective stunt. As my mom used to say... "I don't care of so-and-so does it too." The moral there is to stop pushing blame on others.

Trump lies, cheats and steals and even if Obama did those things too, it still wouldn't validate the behavior or lessen the consequences and besides, Obama isn't the sitting president right now - Trump is.
Seth - before you start shooting your mouth - make... (show quote)


On point, indeed that is their go-to defense and deflection which is no defense, Tumps actions are, indefensible every time.

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Sep 21, 2019 19:20:37   #
Cuda2020
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"LOL - call it whatever you want... they way I see it, you're just frustrated that you can't stand up to the argument." - straightUp

The way you see it?!
The frustration I see daily is from the Left.
Losing is a bitch!

America is winning!
That seems to be hard to swallow by the Left.


We're winning? Winning where? In the most violent, at peace, country, in health care, in a standard of living, in quality of living, in education and healthcare. In taking away people's right's because we are winning in most incarcerated. In mass murders, in killings and maiming.Oh yeah we're really winning. It's all good right.

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Sep 21, 2019 19:36:59   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
On point, indeed that is their go-to defense and deflection which is no defense, Tumps actions are, indefensible every time.


No matter what Trump does, you consider his actions "indefensible." Until you can admit that one single, solitary thing Trump has done as POTUS was the right thing to do, you have about the same credibility as anyone who is motivated by pure bias rather than a mind of his/her own.

You don't think for yourself, your leftist masters tell you what your opinion will be.

And you believe any reasonably informed American would tolerate living under your kind of government?

No, you know that's a big "no way," so your ilk has to lie to the American people and, when the lies aren't enough, force your agendas down our throats whether we like it or not.

You know it, I know it, so why continue lying about it?

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Sep 21, 2019 19:41:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
sambev wrote:
Most of you will have to admit that neither Democrats nor Republicans are always right. For 48 of my 73 years I was a Democrat, but I finally wised up. Any group who supports killing babies and legalizing sin is morally bankrupt, and that's the deal-breaker for me and my family and friends. Sometimes I cringe at the things Trump says, but I believe he's the man whom God has anointed to fulfill His purposes. I also have come to believe Trump is crazy like a fox,in that many of his comments are designed to do exactly what they've done, make the liberal democrats look like fools when they protest. As for whether he should speak to heads of foreign governments secretly is a moot question. To protect our interests and safety, there are various times and issues when private citizens have no need to know what was said. That's the reason we vote for a president to take care of those instances. It's common sense. I make no apologies for voting for Obama the first time; I sincerely believed that was the right thing to do. I now know I was so wrong, but while Obama was my president, he received the respect due the president of the US.
Most of you will have to admit that neither Democr... (show quote)



Every leader in every country is there because God allows them to be there and will do his will thru them even the bad ones for his purpose and will use them to complete his plan for the day he will return !

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Sep 21, 2019 19:43:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
straightUp wrote:
Very well stated... I agree that the president should be more transparent especially when communicating with foreign dignitaries especially when they have a record of American opposition. Of course there are at times, valid reason for a president being secretive... the confidentiality of a court trial being one and war being another. That's it. Everything else should be open.

Trump spent an hour in secrecy with the dictator who is constantly threatening us with warheads. WTF could he have possibly said that we shouldn't know about? I bet no one here can answer that question. I can... NOTHING!

Judging by his blatant character I would say there is a very good chance Trump's secretive communication with foreign leaders is about scamming. Obviously stuff he can't let the American people know about.
Very well stated... I agree that the president sho... (show quote)



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Sep 21, 2019 19:44:58   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
On point, indeed that is their go-to defense and deflection which is no defense, Tumps actions are, indefensible every time.
Says who?

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Sep 21, 2019 19:46:11   #
emarine
 
woodguru wrote:
The topic has come up, that there are protocols for presidential discussions with foreign entities, especially adversaries. When Trump was criticized early on for insisting on secrecy, the only defense in his favor was that Obama talked to Putin alone for a few minutes so it was okay.

There are dozens of good reasons why every minute of discussions between the president and adversarial leaders need to be 100% monitored and transcribed, which they are supposed to be. This prevents a foreign leader from claiming our president said something he did not, promises, commitments, threats, bribes, whatever, he needs witnesses.

Trump has had multiple conversations with Putin that he didn't even disclose, we have no idea what was said. Then we have found out about them through Russian press, which is Putin's propaganda machine, Putin says what he wants to say. Trump says conversations were meaningless when we find out about one, then the Russian press makes claims about conversations and involvements that are definitely more than nothing. We can assume that conversations with dictators are conversations with liars who could easily be believed to lie about what the president says. But then we have a president that quite frankly can't be believed for a second when he tries to relay his side of a conversation, which leaves us with a dire need for 100% monitored conversations.

Now we have a whistle blower complaint that is marked urgent, must be dealt with as soon as possible. National security is not a time for obstructing serious complaints that involve national security, disturbing promises made. It is ridiculous to think someone is going to jeopardize their career over something silly, and impossible to believe that the Intelligence Inspector General is going to validate something as urgent that is not. Laws are there for a reason, and those involving national security and the intelligence community are more serious than most.
The topic has come up, that there are protocols fo... (show quote)





Bottom line our President's are either trusted or not... trump is not trusted by the major majority of Americans … just you serfs trust fake reality & trump...

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Sep 21, 2019 20:52:22   #
Seth
 
emarine wrote:
Bottom line our President's are either trusted or not... trump is not trusted by the major majority of Americans … just you serfs trust fake reality & trump...


The major majority, as opposed to the minor majority?

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Sep 21, 2019 20:53:02   #
1ProudAmerican
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?


...this, coming from the master of ignorant

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Sep 21, 2019 21:38:23   #
Navigator
 
straightUp wrote:
Are you really asking that question? The CIA and the FBI are both part of Trump's administration. Why would a whistleblower report to the same organization that he's blowing the whistle on?

I know you're in love with Donald but sweetheart - you gotta let go. He's a very, very bad person. He tortures children for crying out loud.


If your nightmares are as ridiculous as your day fantasies you must never sleep.

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Sep 21, 2019 21:52:31   #
Seth
 
Navigator wrote:
If your nightmares are as ridiculous as your day fantasies you must never sleep.


"Straight Up" is a walking propaganda machine who simply ignores established facts, such as the children in cages pics having been taken during the Obama Administration.

Straight Up and "the truth" are like matter vs anti-matter. I haven't read a single word in a single post from that one that wasn't the exact opposite of reality.

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Sep 21, 2019 22:10:07   #
emarine
 
Seth wrote:
The major majority, as opposed to the minor majority?




Trump say's it all the time... more like major major majority … unless you prefer very major majority … he say's that too... you have a double standard issue...

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