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Jun 8, 2014 18:49:39   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
The Mathematical Proof for Christianity Is Irrefutable

It is impossible that Christianity is not God's revelation of truth to man. Simply impossible. The math proves it beyond question. It doesn't take faith to believe that one plus one equals two, and it doesn't take faith to identify the religion which has mathematical certainty in its corner.

God didn't have to give us mathematical proof of His existence, but He did it anyway. God didn't have to give us proof of Christianity, but He chose to do so. And God didn't have to give us proof of His love for us, but that is exactly what He did. The proof is irrefutable.

I live in Washington state . Imagine someone covering this entire state in silver dollars 6 feet deep. Then mark one coin and bury it anywhere across the state. Next, blindfold a man and have him choose one coin. The odds that he would choose the marked coin are the same odds of getting 8 prophecies all fulfilled in one man. God gave us about 300 fulfilled prophecies in the Person of Jesus Christ.

Here are 8 of those 300 prophecies:

(1) The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-6)
(2) The Messiah will be a descendant of Jacob. (Numbers 24:17; Matthew
1:2)
(3) The Messiah will enter Jerusalem as a king riding on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; Mark 11:4-11)
(4) The Messiah will be betrayed by a friend. (Psalm 41:9; Luke 22:47,48)
(5) The Messiah's betrayal money will be used to purchase a potter's field. (Zechariah 11:13; Matthew 27:9,10)
(6) The Messiah will be spat upon and struck. (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 26:67)
(7) The Messiah's hands and feet will be pierced. (Psalm 22:16; John 20:25-27)
(8) Soldiers will gamble for the Messiah's garments. (Psalm 22:18; Luke 23:34)

There is no way one man could have fulfilled all 8 of these prophecies unless God was making it happen. Who else controls history? Who else could give us such irrefutable proof for Christianity? The odds are one in one hundred quadrillion, or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000.

This mathematical proof was calculated by Professor Peter Stoner. He was chairman of the mathematics and astronomy departments at Pasadena City College until 1953. He then went to Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California, where he served as chairman of the science division.

You don't have to be a mathematics professor to see that this evidence is irrefutable. No one would pick the marked coin under those conditions. No one but God could have given us these biblical prophecies, and then brought them to fulfillment right before our eyes. It is impossible that Christianity is false. The math proves it, and the Man behind the math rose from the dead, just as it had been foretold.

It doesn't take faith to see how the Bible could only have come from God. It does take faith, however, to accept Jesus as your Savior and to believe in God's promise of eternal life. God has done everything to make this way open to you. If you choose to reject it in spite of the overwhelming evidence and in spite of God's love for you, you will be walking away from an open door to paradise.
Some people won't accept proof for the Bible even when it is irrefutable. Man, by nature, is not very good at accepting the evidence which God has laid out for us. The bias against God and against the supernatural is so strong that even irrefutable evidence is viewed with suspicion and doubt.

Never mind the fact that the prophecy about Christ's crucifixion was given hundreds of years before that type of execution was being used. And who but God could have identified Bethlehem 700 years before Christ was born? You really have to have a closed mind to miss the supernatural quality of the Bible, especially when you really start to dig into it. The historical and mathematical conclusions all point to God's plan of salvation through His Son.

Here is an idea. Try looking at this mathematical proof as if you didn't have any bias against God and against the supernatural, and see how that approach works for you. The end result of your honest evaluation may shock you, and then it will change you from the inside out. That is what happens whenever man embraces the truth as revealed to us in Scripture.

One plus one equals two. Old Testament history plus New Testament fulfillment equals irrefutable proof. This is why Christianity is not a "blind faith." It is a faith built on immovable facts. Are you ready to have that firm foundation in your life? Or do you plan to finish out your time here on this planet with nothing more than an unreasonable bias against God?
No one ever said man is going to always be reasonable. That's the tragic thing about the human soul ever since sin entered the world. There are some biases which go even deeper than common sense and mathematical certainty. That's what our sin does to us, and this is why you and I need the Messiah. We need Jesus because we are sinners. We have broken God's law. And God has been gracious enough not only to give us His only Son, but even to give us conclusive proof for Christianity.So it's no surprise to find that every other belief system and every other religion lacks even a hint of mathematical evidence, let alone irrefutable proof. The followers of those religions are no less sincere, but the foundation for their faith is not based on irrefutable evidence. Where is your faith based today? Do you have a bias against God which is keeping you from considering the mathematical certainty which supports Christianity?

If so, God still loves you, and there is still hope. Many former unbelievers who are now Christians know just what you are going through. This is a critical time for you to consider your sin against God, and your need for His forgiveness.
But don't take my word for it. Instead, accept the irrefutable proof which our Creator has kindly given us in the Old and New Testaments. He loves you far more than you can fathom. He proved it at the cross, and through the fulfilled prophecies. You would have to be blind to miss it.

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Jun 8, 2014 19:21:04   #
American
 
Thank you so much for this post. I was nothing more than a lost soul when the Lord found me. I was beyond rock bottom. I humbled myself before him and gave him my burdens. I walked off from the horrible things I was doing and started living a better life with him in it. He's my strength and I pray for his guidance every day. I sin every day one way or the other. It doesn't make me a bad Christian, just means I'm human. So I ask for forgiveness. Thank you again for your post. God bless you!

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Jun 8, 2014 20:37:23   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
The Mathematical Proof for Christianity Is Irrefutable

It is impossible that Christianity is not God's revelation of truth to man. Simply impossible. The math proves it beyond question. It doesn't take faith to believe that one plus one equals two, and it doesn't take faith to identify the religion which has mathematical certainty in its corner.

God didn't have to give us mathematical proof of His existence, but He did it anyway. God didn't have to give us proof of Christianity, but He chose to do so. And God didn't have to give us proof of His love for us, but that is exactly what He did. The proof is irrefutable.

I live in Washington state . Imagine someone covering this entire state in silver dollars 6 feet deep. Then mark one coin and bury it anywhere across the state. Next, blindfold a man and have him choose one coin. The odds that he would choose the marked coin are the same odds of getting 8 prophecies all fulfilled in one man. God gave us about 300 fulfilled prophecies in the Person of Jesus Christ.

Here are 8 of those 300 prophecies:

(1) The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-6)
(2) The Messiah will be a descendant of Jacob. (Numbers 24:17; Matthew
1:2)
(3) The Messiah will enter Jerusalem as a king riding on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; Mark 11:4-11)
(4) The Messiah will be betrayed by a friend. (Psalm 41:9; Luke 22:47,48)
(5) The Messiah's betrayal money will be used to purchase a potter's field. (Zechariah 11:13; Matthew 27:9,10)
(6) The Messiah will be spat upon and struck. (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 26:67)
(7) The Messiah's hands and feet will be pierced. (Psalm 22:16; John 20:25-27)
(8) Soldiers will gamble for the Messiah's garments. (Psalm 22:18; Luke 23:34)

There is no way one man could have fulfilled all 8 of these prophecies unless God was making it happen. Who else controls history? Who else could give us such irrefutable proof for Christianity? The odds are one in one hundred quadrillion, or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000.

This mathematical proof was calculated by Professor Peter Stoner. He was chairman of the mathematics and astronomy departments at Pasadena City College until 1953. He then went to Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California, where he served as chairman of the science division.

You don't have to be a mathematics professor to see that this evidence is irrefutable. No one would pick the marked coin under those conditions. No one but God could have given us these biblical prophecies, and then brought them to fulfillment right before our eyes. It is impossible that Christianity is false. The math proves it, and the Man behind the math rose from the dead, just as it had been foretold.

It doesn't take faith to see how the Bible could only have come from God. It does take faith, however, to accept Jesus as your Savior and to believe in God's promise of eternal life. God has done everything to make this way open to you. If you choose to reject it in spite of the overwhelming evidence and in spite of God's love for you, you will be walking away from an open door to paradise.
Some people won't accept proof for the Bible even when it is irrefutable. Man, by nature, is not very good at accepting the evidence which God has laid out for us. The bias against God and against the supernatural is so strong that even irrefutable evidence is viewed with suspicion and doubt.

Never mind the fact that the prophecy about Christ's crucifixion was given hundreds of years before that type of execution was being used. And who but God could have identified Bethlehem 700 years before Christ was born? You really have to have a closed mind to miss the supernatural quality of the Bible, especially when you really start to dig into it. The historical and mathematical conclusions all point to God's plan of salvation through His Son.

Here is an idea. Try looking at this mathematical proof as if you didn't have any bias against God and against the supernatural, and see how that approach works for you. The end result of your honest evaluation may shock you, and then it will change you from the inside out. That is what happens whenever man embraces the truth as revealed to us in Scripture.

One plus one equals two. Old Testament history plus New Testament fulfillment equals irrefutable proof. This is why Christianity is not a "blind faith." It is a faith built on immovable facts. Are you ready to have that firm foundation in your life? Or do you plan to finish out your time here on this planet with nothing more than an unreasonable bias against God?
No one ever said man is going to always be reasonable. That's the tragic thing about the human soul ever since sin entered the world. There are some biases which go even deeper than common sense and mathematical certainty. That's what our sin does to us, and this is why you and I need the Messiah. We need Jesus because we are sinners. We have broken God's law. And God has been gracious enough not only to give us His only Son, but even to give us conclusive proof for Christianity.So it's no surprise to find that every other belief system and every other religion lacks even a hint of mathematical evidence, let alone irrefutable proof. The followers of those religions are no less sincere, but the foundation for their faith is not based on irrefutable evidence. Where is your faith based today? Do you have a bias against God which is keeping you from considering the mathematical certainty which supports Christianity?

If so, God still loves you, and there is still hope. Many former unbelievers who are now Christians know just what you are going through. This is a critical time for you to consider your sin against God, and your need for His forgiveness.
But don't take my word for it. Instead, accept the irrefutable proof which our Creator has kindly given us in the Old and New Testaments. He loves you far more than you can fathom. He proved it at the cross, and through the fulfilled prophecies. You would have to be blind to miss it.
The Mathematical Proof for Christianity Is Irrefut... (show quote)


Thank you Jack. Great Post. We need all the uplifting we can get. :thumbup:

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Jun 8, 2014 20:40:48   #
Steve700
 
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: GREAT POST I try to explain to the atheists and agnostics that if they would only look and research into Bible prophecy they would not even need faith -- they would KNOW - With Certainty. They never seem to listen however. I guess the need to be their own God, and master of their own lives in the fashion they see fit is just too overwhelmingly strong to allow them to actually look at the truth and evaluated it with an open mind. But how can anyone who is actually in control of their own selves look at this information and continue to call the Bible a bunch of myths and fairy tales. Self-aggrandizement now is more important to them than the future eternity beginning a few years from now.

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Jun 8, 2014 20:43:47   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Rufus wrote:
Thank you Jack. Great Post. We need all the uplifting we can get. :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 8, 2014 21:15:13   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Beautiful, and so well put for both sides! So very interesting!
jack sequim wa wrote:
The Mathematical Proof for Christianity Is Irrefutable

It is impossible that Christianity is not God's revelation of truth to man. Simply impossible. The math proves it beyond question. It doesn't take faith to believe that one plus one equals two, and it doesn't take faith to identify the religion which has mathematical certainty in its corner.

God didn't have to give us mathematical proof of His existence, but He did it anyway. God didn't have to give us proof of Christianity, but He chose to do so. And God didn't have to give us proof of His love for us, but that is exactly what He did. The proof is irrefutable.

I live in Washington state . Imagine someone covering this entire state in silver dollars 6 feet deep. Then mark one coin and bury it anywhere across the state. Next, blindfold a man and have him choose one coin. The odds that he would choose the marked coin are the same odds of getting 8 prophecies all fulfilled in one man. God gave us about 300 fulfilled prophecies in the Person of Jesus Christ.

Here are 8 of those 300 prophecies:

(1) The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem. (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-6)
(2) The Messiah will be a descendant of Jacob. (Numbers 24:17; Matthew
1:2)
(3) The Messiah will enter Jerusalem as a king riding on a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9; Mark 11:4-11)
(4) The Messiah will be betrayed by a friend. (Psalm 41:9; Luke 22:47,48)
(5) The Messiah's betrayal money will be used to purchase a potter's field. (Zechariah 11:13; Matthew 27:9,10)
(6) The Messiah will be spat upon and struck. (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 26:67)
(7) The Messiah's hands and feet will be pierced. (Psalm 22:16; John 20:25-27)
(8) Soldiers will gamble for the Messiah's garments. (Psalm 22:18; Luke 23:34)

There is no way one man could have fulfilled all 8 of these prophecies unless God was making it happen. Who else controls history? Who else could give us such irrefutable proof for Christianity? The odds are one in one hundred quadrillion, or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000.

This mathematical proof was calculated by Professor Peter Stoner. He was chairman of the mathematics and astronomy departments at Pasadena City College until 1953. He then went to Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California, where he served as chairman of the science division.

You don't have to be a mathematics professor to see that this evidence is irrefutable. No one would pick the marked coin under those conditions. No one but God could have given us these biblical prophecies, and then brought them to fulfillment right before our eyes. It is impossible that Christianity is false. The math proves it, and the Man behind the math rose from the dead, just as it had been foretold.

It doesn't take faith to see how the Bible could only have come from God. It does take faith, however, to accept Jesus as your Savior and to believe in God's promise of eternal life. God has done everything to make this way open to you. If you choose to reject it in spite of the overwhelming evidence and in spite of God's love for you, you will be walking away from an open door to paradise.
Some people won't accept proof for the Bible even when it is irrefutable. Man, by nature, is not very good at accepting the evidence which God has laid out for us. The bias against God and against the supernatural is so strong that even irrefutable evidence is viewed with suspicion and doubt.

Never mind the fact that the prophecy about Christ's crucifixion was given hundreds of years before that type of execution was being used. And who but God could have identified Bethlehem 700 years before Christ was born? You really have to have a closed mind to miss the supernatural quality of the Bible, especially when you really start to dig into it. The historical and mathematical conclusions all point to God's plan of salvation through His Son.

Here is an idea. Try looking at this mathematical proof as if you didn't have any bias against God and against the supernatural, and see how that approach works for you. The end result of your honest evaluation may shock you, and then it will change you from the inside out. That is what happens whenever man embraces the truth as revealed to us in Scripture.

One plus one equals two. Old Testament history plus New Testament fulfillment equals irrefutable proof. This is why Christianity is not a "blind faith." It is a faith built on immovable facts. Are you ready to have that firm foundation in your life? Or do you plan to finish out your time here on this planet with nothing more than an unreasonable bias against God?
No one ever said man is going to always be reasonable. That's the tragic thing about the human soul ever since sin entered the world. There are some biases which go even deeper than common sense and mathematical certainty. That's what our sin does to us, and this is why you and I need the Messiah. We need Jesus because we are sinners. We have broken God's law. And God has been gracious enough not only to give us His only Son, but even to give us conclusive proof for Christianity.So it's no surprise to find that every other belief system and every other religion lacks even a hint of mathematical evidence, let alone irrefutable proof. The followers of those religions are no less sincere, but the foundation for their faith is not based on irrefutable evidence. Where is your faith based today? Do you have a bias against God which is keeping you from considering the mathematical certainty which supports Christianity?

If so, God still loves you, and there is still hope. Many former unbelievers who are now Christians know just what you are going through. This is a critical time for you to consider your sin against God, and your need for His forgiveness.
But don't take my word for it. Instead, accept the irrefutable proof which our Creator has kindly given us in the Old and New Testaments. He loves you far more than you can fathom. He proved it at the cross, and through the fulfilled prophecies. You would have to be blind to miss it.
The Mathematical Proof for Christianity Is Irrefut... (show quote)

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Jun 8, 2014 21:24:25   #
Retired669
 
Steve700 wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: GREAT POST I try to explain to the atheists and agnostics that if they would only look and research into Bible prophecy they would not even need faith -- they would KNOW - With Certainty. They never seem to listen however. I guess the need to be their own God, and master of their own lives in the fashion they see fit is just too overwhelmingly strong to allow them to actually look at the truth and evaluated it with an open mind. But how can anyone who is actually in control of their own selves look at this information and continue to call the Bible a bunch of myths and fairy tales. Self-aggrandizement now is more important to them than the future eternity beginning a few years from now.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumb... (show quote)






Isn't it about time one of you gullible bible thumpers offered up one thin piece of evidence of what ever god you people believe in actually exists?

You people been hanging on to the gossip in the book of myths and fables waiting for your god to reappear for what seems like forever. Isn't it about time your kind realized no one is coming back to save your worthless azz?

:thumbup: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jun 8, 2014 21:31:35   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Retired669 wrote:
Isn't it about time one of you gullible bible thumpers offered up one thin piece of evidence of what ever god you people believe in actually exists?

You people been hanging on to the gossip in the book of myths and fables waiting for your god to reappear for what seems like forever. Isn't it about time your kind realized no one is coming back to save your worthless azz?

:thumbup: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If you were to actually read the post you might learn something. As suggested there is overwhelming evidence that God is who He says He is and that Jesus Christ is our risen Lord and savior. The fact that you won't even investigate the possibility of God tells me you are a very shallow person or just not wise. I feel sorry for you because I truly wish you could discover what so many of us have and experience what we experience. But if you keep a closed mind then you may not. We speak with authority because when we were saved the Holy Spirit came to live inside us. Having never experienced this you have no authority to speak on. None whatsoever.

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Jun 8, 2014 21:53:16   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
American wrote:
Thank you so much for this post. I was nothing more than a lost soul when the Lord found me. I was beyond rock bottom. I humbled myself before him and gave him my burdens. I walked off from the horrible things I was doing and started living a better life with him in it. He's my strength and I pray for his guidance every day. I sin every day one way or the other. It doesn't make me a bad Christian, just means I'm human. So I ask for forgiveness. Thank you again for your post. God bless you!


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Billions like you and me understand and humble ourselves before Him.

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Jun 8, 2014 21:56:14   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Retired669 wrote:
Isn't it about time one of you gullible bible thumpers offered up one thin piece of evidence of what ever god you people believe in actually exists?

You people been hanging on to the gossip in the book of myths and fables waiting for your god to reappear for what seems like forever. Isn't it about time your kind realized no one is coming back to save your worthless azz?

:thumbup: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I wish you nothing but the best and ask God to bestow many blessings on you and yours.

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Jun 8, 2014 22:00:44   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
Rufus wrote:
If you were to actually read the post you might learn something. As suggested there is overwhelming evidence that God is who He says He is and that Jesus Christ is our risen Lord and savior. The fact that you won't even investigate the possibility of God tells me you are a very shallow person or just not wise. I feel sorry for you because I truly wish you could discover what so many of us have and experience what we experience. But if you keep a closed mind then you may not. We speak with authority because when we were saved the Holy Spirit came to live inside us. Having never experienced this you have no authority to speak on. None whatsoever.
If you were to actually read the post you might le... (show quote)



He doesn't need any authority to speak on. The fact that they have given up on God and don't believe in him has nothing to do with the way they feel in life. They always blame that on us. We are the ones making them feel bad by talking about God and trying to help someone learn who he is and to help them find him, but they have already found their gods. Their gods are Obama, money and things of this world. They can't be bothered with something as mundane as God. They can't touch him, so he doesn't exist. No matter what you say to them, he will never exist. They can believe in science which is nothing but theories, but they can't believe in God because they can't touch him. Go figure.

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Jun 8, 2014 22:03:37   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
MrEd wrote:
He doesn't need any authority to speak on. The fact that they have given up on God and don't believe in him has nothing to do with the way they feel in life. They always blame that on us. We are the ones making them feel bad by talking about God and trying to help someone learn who he is and to help them find him, but they have already found their gods. Their gods are Obama, money and things of this world. They can't be bothered with something as mundane as God. They can't touch him, so he doesn't exist. No matter what you say to them, he will never exist. They can believe in science which is nothing but theories, but they can't believe in God because they can't touch him. Go figure.
He doesn't need any authority to speak on. The fac... (show quote)


:thumbup:

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Jun 8, 2014 22:05:23   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
American wrote:
Thank you so much for this post. I was nothing more than a lost soul when the Lord found me. I was beyond rock bottom. I humbled myself before him and gave him my burdens. I walked off from the horrible things I was doing and started living a better life with him in it. He's my strength and I pray for his guidance every day. I sin every day one way or the other. It doesn't make me a bad Christian, just means I'm human. So I ask for forgiveness. Thank you again for your post. God bless you!


How wonderful to hear, the Lords work is there for his saints, as the days near for the last of the harvest. I'm so glad you have the courage to post what our mighty God has done.
God bless

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Jun 8, 2014 22:06:43   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rufus wrote:
Thank you Jack. Great Post. We need all the uplifting we can get. :thumbup:


Thanks, and God bless
Keep the faith brother

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Jun 8, 2014 22:06:50   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
MrEd wrote:
He doesn't need any authority to speak on. The fact that they have given up on God and don't believe in him has nothing to do with the way they feel in life. They always blame that on us. We are the ones making them feel bad by talking about God and trying to help someone learn who he is and to help them find him, but they have already found their gods. Their gods are Obama, money and things of this world. They can't be bothered with something as mundane as God. They can't touch him, so he doesn't exist. No matter what you say to them, he will never exist. They can believe in science which is nothing but theories, but they can't believe in God because they can't touch him. Go figure.
He doesn't need any authority to speak on. The fac... (show quote)


There is a lot of truth in what you said. It takes much more blind faith to not believe in God than to believe in Him. It takes more faith to believe in theories like evolution or global warming that are continually disproven.

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