rumitoid

Before we get to the Electoral College, can we talk about Alexander Hamilton?

As a political figure, Hamilton was volatile, mercurial, choleric, vindictive, conniving, disloyal, and incontinent; those personal flaws eventually led to his death in a duel with Aaron Burr. We remember him because he was also smart, creative, dashing, and decisive. And if you’d had a case in front of a New York court, he’d have been the lawyer to hire. Brilliant doesn’t do justice to his advocacy skills.

But an advocate is what he was. If he were a car salesman today, he could convince you that you really don’t want the backup camera in your family minivan, because this baby here knows not to back into walls.

It’s in that context that we should read his panegyric, from “Federalist No. 68,” to the “mode of appointment of the chief magistrate of the United States” by the electors, a “small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, [who] will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” The electors, he assured us, will be “men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”

Liberty Tree

Still cannot get over Hillary's loss. If the situation was reversed your post would never appear. Instead you would be telling us how great the Electoral College was.

rumitoid

I have a lot more integrity than that. Why do most of you guys usually insult?

Radiance3

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It would be unconstitutional to removing the electoral college for it will deny the rest of the 50 states from the electoral process. If you use popular votes, only NY, California, and Chicago could decide the election. The 47 states are disenfranchised. It is unconstitutional. The Founding Fathers in 1789, who framed the constitution and requiring the electoral college were brilliant thus now the deciding factor. A presidential candidate can win both the popular vote and the electoral college. But when a presidential candidate has more electoral college votes than the other, then the candidate with higher electoral votes win the election.
Presidents who won via the majority of electoral votes.
1888 Benjamin Harrison 233/401
2000 George W. Bush 271/538
2016 Donald Trump 304/538

In 2016 Hillary Clinton had edge on the popular votes of 2.6 million. It was also found that millions were illegal votes from California alone. There were many other states that illegal votes were cast for Clinton.
Many states had more votes than registered voters. The dead voted also.

https://twitter.com/Patrici15767099/status/1022292272652533762

Rose42

rumitoid

George W. Bush is a lie."

Gatsby

The tools are all there, to fix whatever we may agree is wrong with our Constitution.

It's a poor workman, who blames his tools.

rumitoid

Same old Trippe from you guys when evidence overwhelms you. Silence!

Digger47

You must think that only high population areas should decide who becomes president. The rest of us be rammed!

Digger47

You must think that only high population areas should decide who becomes president. The rest of us might as well just stay home!

rumitoid

Disappointing, Rose. You turn out to be just a hater.

Radiance3

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That case went to the SC. Al Gore lost.

So rumitoid, are you smarter than the facts? No wonder you always have pain in your body. I think that is God's gift for your mental confusion and delusions. I tried to pray for you when you were sick. But God will not listen to that unless you have your faith.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Arguing the effects of California's & New York's (add Illinois) popular/electoral voting edge is weak.

2017's top ten states, by population, in the U.S.A.: According to the 2016 election results, as one can see, the Dems certainly did not dominate the urban states and thus, their electoral votes. According to the numbers below, the GOP actually has a popular vote edge of about thirty million among the top ten states in population....

1. California 39,536,653...Democrats
2. Texas 28,304,596...GOP
3. Florida 20,984,400...GOP
4. New York 19,849,399...Democrats
5. Pennsylvania 12,805,537...GOP
6. Illinois 12,802,023...Democrats
7. Ohio 11,658,609...GOP
8. Georgia 10,429,379...GOP
9. North Carolina 10,273,419...GOP
10. Michigan 9,936,211...GOP

BTW, I am fine with the electoral college system, but if & when there is a constitutional amendment eliminating it in favor of the popular vote, I could/would accept such a decision.

Rose42

No, you are confusing your opinion with fact and it looks like you've plagiarized again. Hilary lost. Get over it. That's what this is about. You're not fooling anyone.

Radiance3

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Sorry Slatt, here we won't agree again.
We could not remove the electoral college votes. Even majority votes are coming from more populated states, there are still states that could be disenfranchised. Thereby violating the XV Amendment Rights of the people. All states must have the right to decide.