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The troops that served with Bergdahl might have all been psychopaths
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Jun 5, 2014 15:22:37   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Remember the movie, "Gymkata" with Kurt Thomas? It was about 30 years ago but poor Kurt got in a village full of out and out psychopaths who all had hatchets, scythes, and all kinds of long handled "farm equipment" that served so well as weapons. All those people were trying to kill Thomas and he was having to use all his gymnastics skills to stay alive.

Now just think of how hard it must have been for Bergdahl to have to serve with a whole platoon of psychopaths. Of course, that is impossible but it seems that last evening a member of the lower ranks from the offices of HUD came out talking like they were all psychopaths. Going from swift boating to psychopaths is some really Obama White House sounding name calling to throw people off the path. They do play that game so often.

Oh my, they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel when they go down to the depths of some place like HUD to play their games from.

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/06/05/obama-at-war-administration-official-smears-troops-who-served-with-bergdahl-as-psychopaths/

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Jun 5, 2014 15:31:14   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
oldroy wrote:
Remember the movie, "Gymkata" with Kurt Thomas? It was about 30 years ago but poor Kurt got in a village full of out and out psychopaths who all had hatchets, scythes, and all kinds of long handled "farm equipment" that served so well as weapons. All those people were trying to kill Thomas and he was having to use all his gymnastics skills to stay alive.

Now just think of how hard it must have been for Bergdahl to have to serve with a whole platoon of psychopaths. Of course, that is impossible but it seems that last evening a member of the lower ranks from the offices of HUD came out talking like they were all psychopaths. Going from swift boating to psychopaths is some really Obama White House sounding name calling to throw people off the path. They do play that game so often.

Oh my, they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel when they go down to the depths of some place like HUD to play their games from.

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/06/05/obama-at-war-administration-official-smears-troops-who-served-with-bergdahl-as-psychopaths/
Remember the movie, "Gymkata" with Kurt ... (show quote)


And ... another bat-shit crazy website from the koolaid-filled bubble.

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Jun 5, 2014 15:43:44   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
And ... another bat-shit crazy website from the koolaid-filled bubble.


:thumbup:

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Jun 5, 2014 17:23:49   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
And ... another bat-shit crazy website from the koolaid-filled bubble.


And you can refute it...how?

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Jun 5, 2014 17:24:24   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
And ... another bat-shit crazy website from the koolaid-filled bubble.


And you can refute it...how?

Please enlighten us.

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Jun 5, 2014 19:11:09   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
It’s been less than a week, and already negative consequences are developing as a result of Obama’s negotiating with terrorists, releasing five leading Islamic terrorists for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

On Sunday, Senator Ted Cruz asked, “What does this tell terrorists, that if you capture a U.S. Soldier, you can trade that soldier for five terrorists?” “Have we just put a price on other U.S. soldiers?” Cruz asked on ABC’s “This Week.”

Cruz’s warnings are already proving to be prophetic, as the answer to both questions is already turning out to be “yes,” and “yes,” according to a new report from TIME:

A Taliban commander close to the negotiations over the release of U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl told TIME Thursday that the deal made to secure Bergdahl’s release has made it more appealing for fighters to capture American soldiers and other high-value targets.

“It’s better to kidnap one person like Bergdahl than kidnapping hundreds of useless people,” the commander said, speaking by telephone on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media. “It has encouraged our people. Now everybody will work hard to capture such an important bird.”

oldroy wrote:
Remember the movie, "Gymkata" with Kurt Thomas? It was about 30 years ago but poor Kurt got in a village full of out and out psychopaths who all had hatchets, scythes, and all kinds of long handled "farm equipment" that served so well as weapons. All those people were trying to kill Thomas and he was having to use all his gymnastics skills to stay alive.

Now just think of how hard it must have been for Bergdahl to have to serve with a whole platoon of psychopaths. Of course, that is impossible but it seems that last evening a member of the lower ranks from the offices of HUD came out talking like they were all psychopaths. Going from swift boating to psychopaths is some really Obama White House sounding name calling to throw people off the path. They do play that game so often.

Oh my, they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel when they go down to the depths of some place like HUD to play their games from.

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/06/05/obama-at-war-administration-official-smears-troops-who-served-with-bergdahl-as-psychopaths/
Remember the movie, "Gymkata" with Kurt ... (show quote)

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Jun 5, 2014 23:05:18   #
at41
 
jimahrens wrote:
It’s been less than a week, and already negative consequences are developing as a result of Obama’s negotiating with terrorists, releasing five leading Islamic terrorists for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

On Sunday, Senator Ted Cruz asked, “What does this tell terrorists, that if you capture a U.S. Soldier, you can trade that soldier for five terrorists?” “Have we just put a price on other U.S. soldiers?” Cruz asked on ABC’s “This Week.”

Cruz’s warnings are already proving to be prophetic, as the answer to both questions is already turning out to be “yes,” and “yes,” according to a new report from TIME:

A Taliban commander close to the negotiations over the release of U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl told TIME Thursday that the deal made to secure Bergdahl’s release has made it more appealing for fighters to capture American soldiers and other high-value targets.

“It’s better to kidnap one person like Bergdahl than kidnapping hundreds of useless people,” the commander said, speaking by telephone on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media. “It has encouraged our people. Now everybody will work hard to capture such an important bird.”
It’s been less than a week, and already negative c... (show quote)


at41
Now there is a real source to quote. An anonymist commander who is not authorized to

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Jun 5, 2014 23:09:28   #
at41
 
[quote=at41]at41
Now there is a real source to quote. An anonymous commander who is not authorized to speak, who is calling on a telephone. Give me a break. Did you believe this guy. If so give me your number and I will give you some "inside" information.

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Jun 5, 2014 23:12:52   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
This is not just 1 person Your government knew who this trader was long ago. When you going to get it through your head Obummer is a complete Moron. Good men died trying to rescue this worthless piece of shit.[quote=at41]
at41 wrote:
at41
Now there is a real source to quote. An anonymous commander who is not authorized to speak, who is calling on a telephone. Give me a break. Did you believe this guy. If so give me your number and I will give you some "inside" information.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:18:54   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
And you can refute it...how?

Please enlighten us.


You cannot be enlightened, Old Gringo. You live in the koolaid-filled bubble, which insulates you from being enlightened. I have no interest in trying, and you have no real interest in being enlighted. That site is filled with ridiculously fabricated information that a koolaid-saturated mind will never understand.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:23:08   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
You cannot be enlightened, Old Gringo. You live in the koolaid-filled bubble, which insulates you from being enlightened. I have no interest in trying, and you have no real interest in being enlighted. That site is filled with ridiculously fabricated information that a koolaid-saturated mind will never understand.


Whoo-eee! Now that is a virtually perfect non-answer. You're a past master at it aren't you, Warrant?

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Jun 6, 2014 11:24:55   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
There have been many credible reports, from those who were in Afghanistan, which stated clearly that fellow soldiers were under orders of silence in reference to the desertion ofBowe Bergdahl. It is somewhat understandable to be guarded of sensitive information.

However...

If a reporter was able to reach out to those same troops, and get them to break that silence, would that be enough to get such reporter killed?

On June 7, 2012 Michael Hastings had a piece published in Rolling Stone titled America’s Last Prisoner of War. This was not a fluff piece. It was hard-hitting journalism that was the trademark of Michael Hastings’ reporting. Even back in 2012 Hastings was reporting that Bowe was a deserter and a lot of the stories you have been hearing and reading over the last week stemmed from that ground-breaking account. He was ahead of his time and effectively blew the lid off this story long before it was a story. Here is a brief excerpt from the article, although I would encourage you to read it in full.

The next day, American forces had a chance to free Bowe. The battalion operations officer, call sign GERONIMO 3, met with two tribal elders from the nearby village. The elders had been asked by the Taliban to arrange atrade with U.S. forces. The insurgents wanted 15 of their jailed fighters released, along with an unidentified sum of money, in exchange for Bowe. The officer hedged, unwilling or unable to make such a bargain, and no deal was struck. Instead, the Army ordered all units stationed in the eastern half of Afghanistan – known as RC East, in military jargon – to join the search for Bowe.

On July 4th, the search effort got a break: Bowe was spotted in a village in Ghazni, about 15 miles across the mountains to the west. He was wearing khaki, with a bag covering his head, and he was being driven in a blackToyota Corolla, escorted by three to five motorcycles. But by the time troops arrived to investigate, it was too late. That was the last time that Bowe would be seen until the first propaganda video, released later that month.

Michael Hastings got Bowe Bergdahl’s fellow soldiers to speak upon conditions of anonymity while disobeying the “gag orders” of their superiors.

Many in the alternative media community believe that Michael Hastings did not simply die in a car accident on June 18, 2013. They believe that accident was the result ofsabotage. However, the prevalent theory has been that, if he was targeted, it must have had something to do with the NSA. Tim Brown reported back in August of 2013:

Ironically, Hastings had sent the following email to close friends just hours before his death:

“Subject: FBI Investigation, re: NSA -Hey (redacted names) — the Feds are interviewing my “close friends and associates.” Perhaps if the authorities arrive “BuzzFeed GQ,” er HQ, may be wise to immediately request legal counsel before any conversations or interviews about our news gathering practices or related journalism issues. Also: I’m onto a big story, and need to go off the rada[r] for a bit.

Some have speculated that Hastings’ car was booby trapped due to the numerous explosions. Former counter-terror czar Richard Clarke reacted to the news by telling the Huffington Post that the fatal crash was “consistent with a car cyber attack.”

Even though the FBI was investigating Hastings over his NSA reporting, that was not their only investigation into Michael Hastings. Yesterday Eric Barlow, reporting for wearechange.org, brought to light a scarcely known FBI document that was obtained through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request:

At the time of the story’s publication, the media had all but forgotten about Bergdahl — who was released on Saturday after five years in the hands of the Taliban, in exchange for five Guantanamo prisoners. And, with the exception of some initial chatter, Hastings’ piece, which paints a deeply unflattering picture of Bergdahl’s unit and its leadership, hardly had the impact of some of his other investigations.

But someone did pay attention to it: the FBI.

That, at least, is what was revealed in a heavily redacted document released by the agency following a Freedom ofInformation Act (FOIA) request — filed on the day of Hastings’ death — by investigative journalist Jason Leopold and Ryan Shapiro, an MIT doctoral student whom the Justice Department once called the “most prolific” requester of FOIA documents.

For the FBI to launch an investigation into a Rolling Stone article about a military deserter would seem to open up a whole line of potential questions, but it can be simplified with just one.

Why?

These are the things that conspiracy theories are made of. Would this story have been enough to get Michael Hastings silenced permanently? Was it more of a case of Hastings whole body of work? Or was it simply a legitimate car accident?

We will likely never know the answer to these questions and some will say it’s a stretch to even ask them. But you do not get to the truth without asking tough questions. My personal opinion is that this would only be enough if there was something larger that the government was trying to hide. For instance, and I am not stating these as facts, maybe Bergdahl worked for the CIA or maybe he really was working with The Taliban.

The original FBI report has been partially unredacted because of legal challenges. If you would like to read the report, you can see it at www.documentscloud.org

Whether the story of Bowe Bergdahl would have been enough to get Michael Hastings killed is certainly debatable. But you can not deny that he was way ahead of everyone else on this story as with many other stories.

This is the same guy who ended the career of General Stanley McChrystal.

In the current political climate I doubt nothing and am surprised by nothing. Could Michael Hastings have been killed by our government to shut him up?

If you don’t believe that is possible then you simply have not been paying attention. Our government doesn’t like real investigative reporters who expose the truth. They prefer thelap-dog media that simply follows the “talking points” and narratives they are given.
jimahrens wrote:
It’s been less than a week, and already negative consequences are developing as a result of Obama’s negotiating with terrorists, releasing five leading Islamic terrorists for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

On Sunday, Senator Ted Cruz asked, “What does this tell terrorists, that if you capture a U.S. Soldier, you can trade that soldier for five terrorists?” “Have we just put a price on other U.S. soldiers?” Cruz asked on ABC’s “This Week.”

Cruz’s warnings are already proving to be prophetic, as the answer to both questions is already turning out to be “yes,” and “yes,” according to a new report from TIME:

A Taliban commander close to the negotiations over the release of U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl told TIME Thursday that the deal made to secure Bergdahl’s release has made it more appealing for fighters to capture American soldiers and other high-value targets.

“It’s better to kidnap one person like Bergdahl than kidnapping hundreds of useless people,” the commander said, speaking by telephone on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media. “It has encouraged our people. Now everybody will work hard to capture such an important bird.”
It’s been less than a week, and already negative c... (show quote)

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Jun 6, 2014 11:24:59   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
You cannot be enlightened, Old Gringo. You live in the koolaid-filled bubble, which insulates you from being enlightened. I have no interest in trying, and you have no real interest in being enlighted. That site is filled with ridiculously fabricated information that a koolaid-saturated mind will never understand.


You won't because you can't.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:26:45   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
[quote=at41]
at41 wrote:
at41
Now there is a real source to quote. An anonymous commander who is not authorized to speak, who is calling on a telephone. Give me a break. Did you believe this guy. If so give me your number and I will give you some "inside" information.


And even if the "commander" is believed, it's not like Alqaida hasn't been trying since day one to capture Americans. That's what makes the entire argument about this prisoner exchange putting targets on the backs of our troops still there so ridiculous. Does anyone have any doubt that if Alqaida had the opportunity to capture American soldiers during these past 13 years, they would have? Give our soldiers some credit for being able to defend themselves. The vast majority of American casualties in Afghanistan were caused by IED's, not combat. Alquaida and others like them know that to engage our troops in combat amounts to suicide for them. Their ability to capture American soldiers is very limited.

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Jun 6, 2014 11:27:14   #
vernon
 
jimahrens wrote:
This is not just 1 person Your government knew who this trader was long ago. When you going to get it through your head Obummer is a complete Moron. Good men died trying to rescue this worthless piece of shit.



these fellow traverlers are commited to this guy and have proven he can do absoutely no wrong.stop and think bengasi comes up then we have th va to get it off the front page and now they come up with this crap.

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