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Jul 9, 2019 16:21:25   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
When he denied interfering in the 2016 election? It might seem that way. First Mueller damns him all to hell, then this:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-federal-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/

“The Special Counsel Report describes efforts by the Russian government to interfere with the 2016 presidential election,” Judge Friedrich’s July memo said. “But the indictment, which alleges that private Russian entities and individual conducted an “information warfare” campaign designed to sow discord among US voters, Indictment 10, does not link the defendants to the Russian government.”

Maybe, just maybe, Trump called it right... Again!

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Jul 9, 2019 17:47:48   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
When he denied interfering in the 2016 election? It might seem that way. First Mueller damns him all to hell, then this:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-federal-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/

“The Special Counsel Report describes efforts by the Russian government to interfere with the 2016 presidential election,” Judge Friedrich’s July memo said. “But the indictment, which alleges that private Russian entities and individual conducted an “information warfare” campaign designed to sow discord among US voters, Indictment 10, does not link the defendants to the Russian government.”

Maybe, just maybe, Trump called it right... Again!
When he denied interfering in the 2016 election? ... (show quote)


If Trump had a clue about anything, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but since he does not............. It's amazing to see all these people trying desperately to create fantasies where Trump knew what he was talking about. A broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.................Trump's clock doesn't have hands ( or they're too small to see with the naked eye ).

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Jul 9, 2019 17:51:03   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If Trump had a clue about anything, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but since he does not............. It's amazing to see all these people trying desperately to create fantasies where Trump knew what he was talking about. A broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.................Trump's clock doesn't have hands ( or they're too small to see with the naked eye ).

Considering his record thus far, I'd say you have no idea what you're saying. And as for the 'size' of his hands, they look normal to me for a guy of his height and build. And what's this fascination with broken clocks?

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Jul 9, 2019 17:54:32   #
Carol Kelly
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
When he denied interfering in the 2016 election? It might seem that way. First Mueller damns him all to hell, then this:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/in-major-blow-to-mueller-federal-judge-rebukes-mueller-and-doj-for-falsely-claiming-russian-bot-farm-linked-to-russian-government/

“The Special Counsel Report describes efforts by the Russian government to interfere with the 2016 presidential election,” Judge Friedrich’s July memo said. “But the indictment, which alleges that private Russian entities and individual conducted an “information warfare” campaign designed to sow discord among US voters, Indictment 10, does not link the defendants to the Russian government.”

Maybe, just maybe, Trump called it right... Again!
When he denied interfering in the 2016 election? ... (show quote)


It has always seemed to me that Russia would have given aid to Hilary. It was to their benefit to get her in the White House.

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Jul 9, 2019 17:56:20   #
Carol Kelly
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If Trump had a clue about anything, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but since he does not............. It's amazing to see all these people trying desperately to create fantasies where Trump knew what he was talking about. A broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.................Trump's clock doesn't have hands ( or they're too small to see with the naked eye ).


What did you have to say about Obama’s ears?

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Jul 9, 2019 21:49:42   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If Trump had a clue about anything, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but since he does not............. It's amazing to see all these people trying desperately to create fantasies where Trump knew what he was talking about. A broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.................Trump's clock doesn't have hands ( or they're too small to see with the naked eye ).


That is just another alt-right fake news site. That site, https://www.thegatewaypundit.com has on numerous occasions pushed conspiracy theories and have blamed innocent individuals in high profile cases such as the Las Vegas mass shooting at a Country music concert from the assailants hotel room window, and the Charlottesville and the virginia vehicular assault. The founder of that site, Jim Hoft, has faced numerous lawsuits arising from the false allegations made on his site.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/CharlottesvilleGotNews.pdf (Gateway Pundit's founder is 6th named defendant in this particular case)

I can't understand why people keep trusting these fake news sites and all the while, refuse to believe anything coming from legitimate new sources.

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Jul 9, 2019 21:52:46   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
I can't understand why people keep trusting these fake news sites and all the while, refuse to believe anything coming from legitimate new sources.


Legitimate news sources. Right.

https://newspunch.com/fake-news-stories-cnn/

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Jul 9, 2019 21:57:05   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Legitimate news sources. Right.

https://newspunch.com/fake-news-stories-cnn/


Honestly... I doubt I would bother with a site called News Punch, I could be wrong but it sounds like a site with an agenda.

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Jul 9, 2019 22:01:30   #
Rose42
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Honestly... I doubt I would bother with a site called News Punch, I could be wrong but it sounds like a site with an agenda.


Unfortunately these days they all have an agenda.

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Jul 9, 2019 22:04:59   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Honestly... I doubt I would bother with a site called News Punch, I could be wrong but it sounds like a site with an agenda.

Problem solved:

https://www.wikihow.com/Spot-Fake-News-Sites

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Jul 9, 2019 22:10:48   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Larry the Legend wrote:


Okay, if you know of that site and/or any others that help you to identify fake news sites, why do you continue to post content from fake news sites? Use those tips and identify the fakes stories/sites and stop posting fake news.

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Jul 9, 2019 22:14:37   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Okay, if you know of that site and/or any others that help you to identify fake news sites, why do you continue to post content from fake news sites? Use those tips and identify the fakes stories/sites and stop posting fake news.

Try applying those principles to the story I posted. That's the point.

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Jul 10, 2019 01:50:44   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Try applying those principles to the story I posted. That's the point.


Okay, you win, I read that article in your OP. It was the garbage I anticipated it to be. It alleged in it's headline that Mueller and the DOJ falsely claimed that a "Russian Bot Farm" was linked to the Russian government. The headline read "In Major Blow to Mueller, Federal Judge Rebukes Mueller and DOJ For Falsely Claiming ‘Russian Bot Farm’ Linked to Russian Government". The judge did not rule on whether the link between the bot farm and the Russian government was true or false. If you read the headline they published, you will come off with the false conclusion that a link was disproven when in fact it hasn't been.

That false claim is repeated numerous times throughout the article as well. As I have said before and I will continue to say, that site is a garbage site. They don't fact check their facts, they promote propaganda and lies and therefore they are not worth reading, as I have stated many times already.

In the actual court filing related to the claim of the article you posted, it states, "Concord's main contention is that the Special Counsel's Report, as released to the public, and the Attorney General's related public statements improperly suggested a link between the defendants and the Russian government and expressed an opinion about the defendant's guilt and the evidence against them.". Their contention, located towards the bottom of page 2/23 of the court filing, is correct, the prosecution is not permitted to sway public opinion prior to the outcome of the trial and since the trial is NOT completed, the link between the defendants is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. That was what the judge made a ruling on, whether the prosecution was right in what they have released to the public in regards to that ongoing trial, not whether the link was true or false. That does not mean that the link that the prosecution intends to prove has been disproved as the article insinuates, that makes the article fake news, just like most if not all of that site's articles.

Since my judgement of this article's factuality confirms what I am always saying of that site, I have no reason to alter my assessment of that site nor reconsider my aversion to reading articles posted on that site. The fact that Trumpsters refuse to acknowledge that the site IS fake news is further proof of their ignorance.



Are you happy now? I have wasted time on fake news. This is why I judge an article's legitimacy based on the legitimacy of the site it is posted on. Why should anyone sift through mountains of garbage for slim nuggets of truth, IF they find any at all? Why not limit our reading to legitimate sites that post facts, not fiction?

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Jul 10, 2019 03:05:58   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Try applying those principles to the story I posted. That's the point.




Method
1

Evaluating a News Site (My favorite method because I avoid fake news sites as I hate to dig through a mountain of garbage for a slim nugget of truth IF one even exists. Most of these methods did not apply to the site you posted in your OP)


5
Look up the website itself. Search the website's name in a search engine and see what comes up. Read the "About Us" page, and descriptions of the site such as on Wikipedia and Snopes.[10]
Check their social media. Are they posting clickbait, and do the headlines match what the articles actually say?
If you suspect an organization might be biased or controversial, try adding the word "controversy" to your search terms and see what comes up
.


Method
2

Examining a News Article (These are very good tips that SHOULD you want to check out the individual article, they will work fine)


1

Look into the article’s authors. Although fake news sites typically provide a byline at the top of the article and name an author, a little research on your part can help you tell if the individual exists and if the news site is genuine.[11] If no other information about the author is given on the website, or if the article does not provide a byline, you’re probably looking at fake news.
For example, if the byline of a potentially fake news article gives an author’s name, Google the author and see if they have written any journalism for other sites. Reputable journalists should have multiple publications, and often a personal website as well.
Even if a news site provides a “biography” of the suspicious author, but provides suspicious or seemingly bogus information therein, the individual may not be real.
Genuine news sites are scrupulous about documenting their writers’ achievements and providing access to contact authors and journalists
.


2

Check out the sources. Look into the sources and citations that the article provides. Genuine news stories will quote interviews, provide statistics, and back up their claims with references to facts. Check out the credibility of the sources themselves—follow links given in the article—and make sure that these websites are factual as well.[12]
If the article does not provide any sources for its information and does not link to any corroborating news stories, it’s likely providing fake news.[13]
If the article has no quotes, quotes from only one person, or quotes from people who don't exist, then it is likely fake.[14]
Be wary of fake quotes. If you see a sensationalist quote, try copying the quote and pasting it into a search bar. If it's real, then it's likely that other news outlets will have the same quote
.[15]

(make sure you check WHAT other sites publish the same quote, if no legitimate sources publish the same quite then the quote is fake)


3

Beware of sensationalism. Often, fake news sites try to pass off outlandish claims as being true, with the hope of shocking gullible readers. Read past the headline, and continue past the opening paragraph. If the logic of the article seems to fall apart as you continue, or if the article cites clearly inauthentic sources, you’re dealing with a piece of fake news.[16]
News stories that are ridiculous or rage-inducing may be fake.[17]
In extreme cases, the content of the article may have nothing to do with the sensationalist, attention-grabbing headline
.
The previously mentioned fake news article about Pope Francis endorsing Donald Trump is a good example of a sensationalistic piece. The article is designed to create an emotional response in specific readers (Catholics and Republicans), although the basic premise is absurd.


4

Try a reverse image search if you suspect a photo could be misused or taken out of context. Sometimes fake news sites will use stock images, or steal an image from someone else. Right-click on the image and you will have the option to search Google for it. (You can also search the URL and it will offer an image search option.) This way, you can see if other news outlets are using the image, and what they are saying about it.[18]
Sometimes it is normal to use stock images. For example, an article about healthy eating might have a stock image of food on it. However, if they are using a generic stock image and claiming that it is a specific person, it is likely that this person doesn't exist.

(Perhaps you saw me tear mr. mr. apart over his fake meme a couple days ago, this method is awesome and obviously I already knew of this one.)


5

Look at other articles published on the site. If a news article seems really great, double-check the other stories on the site to see if they publish other stories that may be outlandish. Looking at multiple articles will give you an idea of how accurate a news site is.



Method
3

Investigating the Authenticity of the News (Excellent method, too bad all the Trumpsters refuse to believe anything not pro-Trump so these methods will not work for or on Trumpsters, they are too ignorant)


1

Follow the history of the news. Fake news is often “recycled”; a popular fake-news story from five years ago may be resurrected by an unscrupulous site. Click through the links and sources in a potentially fake news article, and check the publication dates of every article. If a current article cites sources from a decade ago, the news is likely fake.[19]
Fake news can also circulate internationally. For example, a fake story could originate in the United States, die out over time, and be presented as “breaking news” in the UK three years later.


2

Beware of explicitly partisan news. Especially during national elections, fake news sites will publish information that plays directly into the hands of one political party. Fake news sites often accomplish this by playing into the fears of a specific group or political party, and relying on individuals in that party to believe the fake news that confirms their fears without evaluating the source for authenticity.[20]
This phenomenon is known as “confirmation bias”: individuals with strong beliefs are eager to read news that affirms those beliefs, and hesitant to believe sources that they disagree with
.

(I actually don't care if there is some partisan bias, right or left IF the facts are true, facts over bias.)


3

Search keywords related to the event, and see what you find. When something groundbreaking or surprising happens, multiple news outlets will report on it. If only one website is reporting on a newsworthy event, then it is unlikely that it is real.[21]

(Also if only one group of sites, right or left are reporting it, there is a chance that the news is fake and you should exercise extra caution)


4

Check fake-news debunking sites. Websites such as Snopes and FactCheck.org, The Washington Post Fact Checker, and politifact.com are sites dedicated to discovering if stories are fake or true. They fact-check bogus news stories and report on their authenticity. Before you believe a suspicious-looking news article, check a “debunking” site. These sites have the time and resources to investigate news articles and their sources, and provide unbiased evaluations of news authenticity.[22]
When evaluating news, it can help to be a skeptical reader. Doubt claims that seem engineered to anger or shock you, and turn to sites like Snopes when in doubt.
Fake news is often engineered to appeal to irrational readers, so by methodically evaluating the news site and article, you can prevent yourself from believing falsities
.

(This one is great for rational persons, too bad Trumpsters AREN'T rational and they irrationally distrust legitimate news, sites and sources. They believe facts are fiction, truth is lies, fiction is fact and lies are truth.)

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Jul 10, 2019 07:05:03   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Okay, you win

Thought so.

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