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Apr 20, 2019 08:58:02   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
How to best respond to your hatefully hyperbolic and nonsensical rhetoric.

First, I don't "blubber," and challenge you to present examples of my doing so in the true sense. Posting opinions contrary to other mindsets is part & parcel of a debate/discussion forum.

I also challenge you to present on example of my praising, siding with or defending Maxine Waters. I can't recall any point in my time on OPP where I did. You're, once again, just wrongly assuming.

I have never considered myself a "hero," but simply a proud American who had the opportunity to serve his country and did so honorably. In fact, I don't know any Vet who considers himself a hero. None of us can control what we are labeled as, whether good or bad.

Respectfully, I believe your experience with the military has to do with your brothers' having honorably served. I salute them and your support of them and all military.

I can assure you, in checking my posts, you will not find examples of my supporting 'open borders.' My stance has been to close and restrict the borders by aggressively enforcing current laws on the books.

I do appreciate your use of the term 'jackanapes.' It is not often heard, and I've always liked it.

Now, go back to your safe-place and stew in your vile juices as you concoct more fake news.
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I accept your challenge and this last response of yours is proof of your endless blubbering.

You are in lockstep with Maxine Waters by proxy of your inability to accept that Trump has defeated you.

You voted against him, he beat you fair and square and you haven't shut up your whining about it for two years, just like Maxine Waters.

Thousands of vets are on the Texas border right now as members of the Lone Star Watchmen and the Texas Militia, while you sit on your lame butt blubbering about Trump.

On May 4, There will be a training excercise in Colmesneil Texas.

You will find me there conducting video surveys.

I would invite you to attend but some of the Watchmen are extremely racist and xenophobic.

I'm afraid it would be a bit dangerous for liberal spooks.

In answer to your last weak attempt to appear clever.

Everywhere I walk is a safe space.....................Goober.

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Apr 20, 2019 10:25:27   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
I accept your challenge and this last response of yours is proof of your endless blubbering.

You are in lockstep with Maxine Waters by proxy of your inability to accept that Trump has defeated you.

You voted against him, he beat you fair and square and you haven't shut up your whining about it for two years, just like Maxine Waters.

Thousands of vets are on the Texas border right now as members of the Lone Star Watchmen and the Texas Militia, while you sit on your lame butt blubbering about Trump.

On May 4, There will be a training exercise in Colmesneil Texas.

You will find me there conducting video surveys.

I would invite you to attend but some of the Watchmen are extremely racist and xenophobic.

I'm afraid it would be a bit dangerous for liberal spooks.

In answer to your last weak attempt to appear clever.

Everywhere I walk is a safe space.....................Goober.
I accept your challenge and this last response of ... (show quote)

At least for now, you have failed the challenge.

Quite possibly the most common human frailty is ones inability to recognize the flaws, faults and shortcomings in themselves that they so readily see in others. By virtue of your continuing weak attempts at humor, ad hominem attacks and false assertions, you have proven yourself guilty of such.

I bow to your mastery of ineptitude. Yet, as I've said before, you do often provide amusement.

'Til later, down the road, Mr. Peanut.

P.S. "Thousands" or not, you and all others be both careful and legal in your border patrols.

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Apr 20, 2019 12:04:03   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
At least for now, you have failed the challenge.

Quite possibly the most common human frailty is ones inability to recognize the flaws, faults and shortcomings in themselves that they so readily see in others. By virtue of your continuing weak attempts at humor, ad hominem attacks and false assertions, you have proven yourself guilty of such.

I bow to your mastery of ineptitude. Yet, as I've said before, you do often provide amusement.

'Til later, down the road, Mr. Peanut.

P.S. "Thousands" or not, you and all others be both careful and legal in your border patrols.
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It's thousands Goober.

We've got the Texas Minutemen along with militias from Oregon, Indiana, including countless volunteers and even some Canadians.

So don't worry Mr. Blue Spook, you're safe to blubber and complain about the president til the cows come home.

Mr, W.C. Peanut

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Apr 20, 2019 12:21:23   #
Singularity
 
slatten49 wrote:
Good morning, Wolfie, aka 'Mr. Peanut,' Clown Prince of Goobers.


here ya go....

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Apr 20, 2019 12:31:43   #
JIM BETHEA
 
Unlike an accident that 5 people were eyewitnesses and all 5 had different mental recollections, this is why "Records in Black & White" actually help.....what this Report said was that Barr & Roseinstein both agreed that "THERE WAS NO COLLUSION" [PERIOD] .....now for getting prior posts corrected in accord with the Black & White facts arena on "obstruction of justice" ~~

Let's try what was actually in the Report: Barr: "After carefully reviewing the factual legal theories outlined in the report, and in consultation with the Office of Legal Counsel, the Deputy Attorney General and I concluded that the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president violated an obstruction of justice offense"..[sounds a little different when it is copied accurately from the original Black & White documents] ~~

Now for Legal Definition of Obstruction: ..."must prove that any allegations of obstruction be supported with proof to the effect of having a criminally corrupt motive..." [hearsay without proof of any actions taken is NOT OBSTRUCTION even as much as the Trump haters in DC & Fake Media would like for it to have happened''

Long Story Short on all of this alleged "Russian-Trump Collusion Witch Hunt" should have never started in the first place ~ It was based upon "fraudulent contrived allegations" but Roseinstein [being a player in the game] set the stage ~ Roseinstein took value time to create a 16 page document listing all of his reasons as to why Pres Trump should fire Comey ~ Trump takes his advice and fires him, 2 days later Roseinstein calls for a Special Investigation [and who does he call for the job] Just check their past histories over their years with our highest agencies of law enforcement before anyone passes out the awards!!

The Dems, fake media & a good many misguided still hang on to their illusions & delusions because they don't want to admit that they have wasted over 2 years with their "get Trump obsessions" ~ For some it has gotten to be "an actual mental disorder"...Dr would label it "pathological"...while the general public might call it "Fan Fantasy"

Even many of the longtime Dems like Deny Hoyer are telling other Dems [now socialist] "to leave the impeachment rhetoric alone" ~~ The sicko crazies like Schiff, Nadler & Cummings will never ~ They are demanding "what they know they can't have" with their "demands" for an every-word Mueller Report, while many behind the scenes know that the Grand Jury is still working on other adjacent investigations!!

However, this time these investigations are against the criminals that created & helped to implement this "illicit Russia Russia Coup D'Eat...Going to be very interesting for the next few months, because the "worm has turned"!!

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Apr 20, 2019 12:34:39   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Singularity wrote:
here ya go....

Thanks, young Lady. That's just as I picture Mr. W.C. Peanut.

As we've met, you know my avatar pictures me just as I am.

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Apr 20, 2019 12:36:52   #
Singularity
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
If you are committed to a political philosophy that is decidedly diametrically opposed to our founding principles, how can you justify loyalty to both?


Enlightenment principles and historical forces coalesced to form a new type of governing when our country came into being.

"Be the change you want to see!"

Our constitutional form of government is like a living, breathing thing. Stable and cumbersome enough to survive petty rivalries and competing interests but malleable enough to be able to grow and self correct when hampered by tyrannical abuses or outside forces.

It can only be and remain as good and as free as the free people and good people who endorse and defend it.

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Apr 20, 2019 12:40:23   #
Singularity
 
slatten49 wrote:
Thanks, young Lady. That's just as I picture Mr. W.C. Peanut.

As we've met, you know my avatar pictures me just as I am.


Pretty much. I think it makes you look less impressively tall than you appear in person, however.

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Apr 20, 2019 12:45:28   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
It's thousands Goober.

We've got the Texas Minutemen along with militias from Oregon, Indiana, including countless volunteers and even some Canadians.

So don't worry Mr. Blue Spook, you're safe to blubber and complain about the president til the cows come home.

Mr, W.C. Peanut

I know its neither spooky nor 'bout me, but I always liked the song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ceb6uzG3I

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Apr 20, 2019 13:05:04   #
JIM BETHEA
 
"blue runner"...Thanks for entering your "accurate descriptions" of the facts, however, the libs & trolls on here will be coming after you ~~ Sure this was a Coup and who better implement it than these "Dirty Cops" ~ People change for the better or the worse and this "get Trump cabal" even went past the Point of No Return...Now they must Pay!!

Mueller just knew that he had the "hard evidence" to destroy not only Pres Trump but his family as well with the Trump Tower meeting [once all of their other devious tricks had faltered] but he stepped in it, because Don Jr's phone records proved their "got you" was based on their overreaching zealousness!!

In several pages that Mueller & Weissermann devoted to describing this Tower Meeting so that they could create some innuendos or red meat for the Dems to try to latch onto a possible impeachment, little was said about the Russian lawyer??

A very important issue that was "skipped over" was the FACT that she was working for Fusion GPS, the same company that Hillary & Comey were paying for the fake Russian Dossier?? [I say Hillary and not the DNC as the fake media references because if you will remember the Clinton Foundation loaned $$$ to the DNC when they were practically bankrupt in return for an agreement that Hillary would take 100% of the DNC]

Another very important issue that was also "skipped over" and not even Fox News has mentioned is Natalia Veselnitskaya had previously been deported ~ WELL...Obama & Atty Gen Lynch created a "special immigration clause that gave her a new Visa to return to the US?? Coincidental?? Not hardly!! This was around the time that Obozo & Lynch were communicating with one another with "alias names" [talk about collusion..lol ]

Well, blue runner none of this BS is of much importance now, because the Big Show is coming soon, when the real colluders and traitors are all indicted ~~ several have already "flipped" in order to save their own asses...[one flipper is a main player]

Also, you were correct about people writing books about this ~ I started 2 years ago and I just can't find a stopping point because it just keeps getting better ~~ "Election 2016 That Changed America"...I told one of my author friends that I am going to close it out next week and fire it off to the publishers ~~ I started another book which has now become a massive 476 pages of small print about 7 years ago and now I am being forced to re-edit it because some of my original predictions have already happened!! It will also be out soon...Happy Easter everyone...MAGA

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Apr 20, 2019 13:26:59   #
JIM BETHEA
 
Good Work Helping on the Border ~~ I saw where private militia captured over 300 illegals this week and held them until the US Border Patrol could take over....

Dems & Libs make false allegations about Trump's demands for border security in calling it a "Manufactured Crisis" and all of the "script readers" of the fake media take off running with this 24/7

Here are some of the numbers that prove Pres Trump is correct in his efforts to stop all of the BS...

HHS have relocated 243,414 of these “children” to all 50 states so far 2019
76% in 2018 to be exact, are males between the ages of 15 and 17.
mostly come from Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador, according to ORR’s data

Now Pelosi & Comrades are voting on a Bill to allow illegals to vote & for teenagers 16 or older to be able to vote.....Add this to the aforementioned numbers/stats...Picture is Pretty Clear!!

I was actually a bit shocked when the 9th Circuit of Appeals reversed a prior Obozo judges' injunction stating that Border Agents were forced to release these illegals into the US...This new reversal from the Appeals Court now empowers the Border agents to "turn their asses around without being allowed into the U.S.

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Apr 20, 2019 13:38:20   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Singularity wrote:
Pretty much. I think it makes you look less impressively tall than you appear in person, however.

At 5'9", I am not used to being described as "impressively tall"...but, I like it

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Apr 20, 2019 13:52:39   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
I know its neither spooky nor 'bout me, but I always liked the song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ceb6uzG3I


The Fleetwoods did a pretty decent cover of The Sandman also.

Great Harmony and vocal Dynamics.



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Apr 20, 2019 13:54:12   #
Singularity
 
slatten49 wrote:
At 5'9", I am not used to being described as "impressively tall"...but, I like it


I am 5 ft. in height.

Almost.

Most adults are impressively tall to me.

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Apr 20, 2019 14:06:03   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
slatten49 wrote:
By Michael.Daly

Two days before the 50th anniversary of Robert Mueller being seriously wounded while leading his platoon against a numerically superior enemy in Vietnam, his latest service to the nation was released in the form of the Special Counsel’s Report.

In a morning press conference before the release, Attorney General William Barr seemed to give a friend of three decades his due after two years of lies and slander by our president.

“I would also like to thank Special Counsel Mueller for his service and the thoroughness of his investigation, particularly his work exposing the nature of Russia’s attempts to interfere in our electoral process,” Barr said.

A few breaths later, Barr committed one of the great public betrayals of our history. The country’s most senior law enforcement officer actually sought to justify President Trump’s mendacious attacks against Mueller and the investigation he had been appointed to conduct.

“As the special counsel’s report acknowledges, there is substantial evidence to show that the president was frustrated and angered by a sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency, propelled by his political opponents, and fueled by illegal leaks,” Barr said.

In fact, the report acknowledges no such thing.

What the report does demonstrate is that Mueller conducted an exceedingly fair, determinedly thorough investigation.

Just as he had on the battlefield a half century ago, Mueller performed brilliantly.

His one mistake was to trust his supposed friend Barr.

To call Barr a human hedgehog would be unfair if the resemblance were confined to his appearance. But he also shares a hedgehog’s unique “self-anointing,” a behavior that involves licking an object whose smell the creature finds attractive until it works up a froth that it then rubs on itself.

Barr must have worked up considerable froth in the presence of the president. He smelled like pure Trump on March 24, when he offered a four-page document that was was supposed to be an honest appraisal of the evidence Mueller so carefully gathered under such trying circumstances.

Barr reeked of The Donald when he subsequently spoke of the FBI “spying” on the Trump campaign.
During his public betrayal of Mueller at Thursday’s press conference, Barr twice said there was “no collusion.” He implicitly excused even Trump’s demonstrable lies concerning an effort to fire Mueller because of fictitious “conflicts.”

As he exonerated Trump, Barr failed to note that page two of Volume II of the very document he was releasing states, “While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

The report further states, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.”

Mueller apparently did not foresee that Barr would effectively see Trump exonerated anyway. Mueller also did not likely anticipate that when releasing the report, Barr would say Trump’s behavior must be put “in context” and accepted.

The report documents that Trump lied, lied, and lied again—and pressured his subordinates to do the same.

The true source of the frustration and anger that Barr describes was partly the refusal of several staffers to be as unprincipled as their president.

The most prominent of those who stood up to the president was White House Counsel Don McGahn, nephew of the late Atlantic City lawyer/fixer Paddy McGahn. The uncle cleared the way for Trump’s casinos and the nephew might therefore have been expected to be situationally flexible. But the uncle was also a thrice-wounded Marine and recipient of the Navy Cross. The report describes the nephew as responding more like a Marine than a fixer/lawyer.

The big test for Don McGahn came after Trump instructed him to have Mueller fired for supposed “conflicts,” in June 2017. Mueller would subsequently find himself in the bizarre position of investigating an attempt to stop him from investigating.

“The president cited as conflicts that Mueller had interviewed for the FBI Director position shortly before being appointed as special counsel, that he had worked for a law firm that represented people affiliated with the president, and that Mueller had disputed certain fees relating to his membership in a Trump golf course in Northern Virginia,” the report notes.

The report adds that Steve Bannon told Trump the purported conflicts were “ridiculous.” Mueller had never been interviewed for the FBI Director. He had not represented any Trump people, even if others at his very large law firm had.

As for the supposed golf course fee dispute, the report says: “In October 2011, Mueller resigned his family’s membership from Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Virginia, in a letter that noted that, ‘We live in the District and find that we are unable to make full use of the Club,’ and that inquired ‘whether we would be entitled to a refund of a portion of our initial membership fee,’ which was paid in 1994.”

The report adds, “About two weeks later , the controller of the club responded that the Muellers’ resignation would be effective Oct. 31, 2011, and that they would be ‘placed on a waitlist to be refunded on a first resigned / first refunded basis...’ The Muellers have not had further contact with the club.”

McGahn said he would quit rather than fire Mueller on fictitious grounds, and went so far as to pack up his office. Trump relented, and that might have been that, had the “fake news” not reported the truth.

“In early 2018, the press reported that the president had directed McGahn to have the special counsel removed in June 2017 and that McGahn had threatened to resign rather than carry out the order,” the report says. “The president reacted to the news stories by directing White House officials to tell McGahn to dispute the story and create a record stating he had not been ordered to have the special counsel removed. McGahn told those officials that the media reports were accurate in stating that the president had directed McGahn to have the special counsel removed. The president then met with McGahn in the Oval Office and again pressured him to deny the reports.”

The report continues, “The president asked McGahn whether he would ‘do a correction,’ and McGahn said no.

“The president also asked McGahn in the meeting why he had told Special Counsel’s Office investigators that the president had told him to have the special counsel removed. McGahn responded that he had to, and that his conversations with the president were not protected by attorney-client privilege.”

Trump inquired about McGahn’s habit of jotting down what was said during meetings with him. The report says, “The president then asked, ‘What about these notes? Why do you take notes? Lawyers don't take notes. I never had a lawyer who took notes.’ McGahn responded that he keeps notes because he is a ‘real lawyer’ and explained that notes create a record and are not a bad thing. The president said, ‘I’ve had a lot of great lawyers, like Roy Cohn. He did not take notes.’ ”

Anybody who was around Roy Cohn knew that he did not want to be hampered by a record and that he always sought to make the truth whatever best suited him at the moment. And Cohn was not just Trump’s lawyer; he was young Donald’s mentor.

To read the litany of Trump’s lies as detailed in the Mueller report is to feel that Cohn’s spirit has risen from the crypt in Queens that he shares with his mother. Trump also lies about the successful firing of FBI Director James Comey.

Then there are the lies about the Mueller investigation itself. The report describes a moment on the south lawn last August: “In an impromptu exchange with reporters that lasted approximately five minutes, the president twice called the special counsel’s investigation a ‘rigged witch hunt.’ ”

So said the president who sought to rig the firing of a resolutely honest prosecutor.

At another moment, the report says, “The president described the special counsel’s investigation as ‘a witch hunt that ends in disgrace.’ ”

The actual disgrace belongs to Trump and to Barr.

In assuming the scent of the president, the human hedgehog seems to have also assumed the scent of Trump’s mentor. Cohn spoke endlessly about loyalty, but was always ready to betray a friend.
In Barr’s case, that is Mueller, whose only big mistake in the investigation was trusting him.

It’s nearly 50 years since Mueller led his platoon from potential disaster, despite a bullet wound to the thigh. This is one of the qualities that has long made America great. Barr, and Trump, and his truth-indifferent supporters, all owe Mueller an apology.

Semper Fi, Mr. Mueller
By Michael.Daly br br Two days before the 50th ... (show quote)


Imagine someone actually doing their job in spite of the bad company they kept oorah! Praise the Lord for truth! Imagine supporting our president by doing your job and not supporting lies! All I can say is they raised the Barr!!!!!!!

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