working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

There was a time on OPP when we had a daily barrage of 'what about the children' posts about deficits and debt under the Obama Administration. Curiously, that is no longer the case and shows yet again the old public administration maxim: where one stands depends on where one sits.

So I'm thinking the President is going to run on some specific issues....one of which is the economy. It's going like gangbusters, right?
But I'm thinking it had better be considering that we are engaged in stimulus spending as if we were at the height of a recession. The CBO has projected that sort of 800B to 1Tr deficit into the future. With that sort of stimulation it better be humming. Would be better if we actually had something concrete to show for it other than a broadening of the wealth gap, but we may get a wall out of it yet.

I'm also having a case of deja vu where a Democratic administration will be called upon to reign in Republican deficits.
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1960_2021USb_XXs2li111mcn_G0f

Just click on the chart and watch how Democratic Administration lower Republican Administration deficits. Dick Cheney was right. Reagan showed that deficits don't matter. The 'party of fiscal responsibility' cares about the debt and deficits only when Democrats run them.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Wouldn't it be nice if Washington could work together instead of for their own pet projects. If they could sit down and figure out what the nation needs, put it in a priority sequence without voting down bills just because it was proposed by a party, either Democrat or Republic..... but because it is unnecessary at the present time and can wait. Would it not be nice if both sides could come together rather than playing the obstruction game because a party can not get over the fact that their candidate lost the election.

Kevyn

They are on their knees behind the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer, just listen for the smooching and lip smacking and you will find them there all puckered up.

Cuda2020

I'm all for working together, that would productive, but I'm not sure where obstruction would be coming into play with our growing debt from the party who lost the election? Please explain?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

A short list would be the bills allowed to pass. It seems to me, and I may be seeing this all wrong, but we are spending millions of dollars on "investigations" of both sides and if the "investigation" does not prove what the party intended, they reinvestigate. My thought, put that money to use serving our nation; fix our infrastructure, investigate more earth friendly power sources, fix our schools, and perhaps stop the nonsense at the border. We have to stop the BS in DC as well as between our people. We, the citizens, must come together as one voice and make it clear to our politicians what we need and expect. Frankly, calling each other names and fighting is destroying our nation.

Kevyn

The Mueller investigation made the taxpayers money, Trumps crooked accomplices forfeited their ill gotten gains to the nations coffers in an amount exceeding the entire cost of the investigation. They should have kept digging they would likely find Trumps pals and cohorts stole cheated and embezzled enough to pay for the Trumpty Dumpty wall!

Comment Loc: California

WCS is a democrat. He complains about the deficit (as indeed he should. However he never complained during the Obama Adm. Deficit spending is a boom for the economy. In addition to deficient spending Obama forced through congress an $850 billion stimulus law that got absolutely no results. Obama later admitted that here were no "shovel ready jobs." 3/4 of a billion blown to hell. For what? Obama flat out lied about "shovel jobs". He diverted the money to other systems. Do U know what they are? I do but I ant gonna be your teacher today. Roads are falling apart and 3/4 0f a billion did not go to roads. Politicians have always s feather their nests and nothing will change until working class gets off it's asshes and votes the dudes and dudetts out, period. Good try WCS, but short on overall continuity.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Perhaps you could provide some sources for your claims.. unless you are just providing your personal opinion.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Interesting. You must be a Republican. So where's the same level of outrage as directed at Obama. My observation is isn't about the deficit or debt itself....who knows what the proper level is?

My 'complaint' has to do with the disappearance of the deficit and debt hawks when a Republican is responsible for the issue. Just crickets as opposed to the steady gale of complaints during the last administration.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Let me see if I understand your position.... The Mueller's expenses are okay because he took the assets of another American to pay for him and his team. Although technically his real estate now belongs to the bank. Or perhaps you think his wardrobe is valued over $30 million dollars? I think that some folks are just trying to justify the costs..... reality is, the US citizens will never see or hear about these funds again....... perhaps they will just be divided up between judges and Mueller.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

The GOP tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act at least 60 times during Obama's tenure, tried to become the "party of healthcare" leading up to the 2016 elections with their "repeal and replace" rhetoric, failed to deliver either, and are now trying to get the Judicial branch to repeal it for them without any further attempts to replace it. None of that was for the benefit of the American people. Democrats refused to acknowledge the obvious flaws in the ACA, fought any attempts to correct them, then ran on healthcare again as though they were saving America from the GOP. None of that was for the benefit of the American people.

The old definition of politics was " a method whereby the business of the people is accomplished", the current definition ( and has been for decades ) is "a method of getting and keeping power for the enrichment of one's self, one's donors and one's party".

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

You asked for sources about the Mueller probe on how much it cost. I suppose I participated in hijacking my own threat. I'm more curious about the lack of outrage at the deficits and debt among those who excoriated the Obama administration on the same issue.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

The people who seemed most concerned about obamacare are those people who are very sick and need someone else to pay for their medical care. The thing about being sick.... you are either born with a disease (bad genetics) or your bad (not you specifically) habits and refusal to take care of your health has made you dependent on having others make your last year prolonged and tolerable.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I do not care about obama he is not the President. We have to live with the damage he has done. I do not care about his administrators, unless they are hell bent on destroying our current President.

Your response has nothing to do with my reply to you..... and that reply was based on the links you provided.