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Apr 8, 2019 21:06:20   #
Richard Rowland
 
EmilyD wrote:
Try a small walk and bring some treats with you. (I use cooked cut up chicken for treats for my dog - he loves them. Also cooked carrots and cut up apples.). Rub his belly, back and sides - not the head - that can be read as a sign of aggression. Maybe some one-on-one time with just one person and a lot of positive encouragement? If he urinates outside while on the walk, give him very high praise and a treat. When my dog is cowering and shivering (usually from loud noises like a thunderstorm, or once when our fire alarm went off) I try to distract him with something nice to eat.

It does sound like something happened while outside to cause his fear, whether it was the fence or something else. Maybe walking around the property with a leash may lead you to whatever the problem is?

If it continues without improvement in, say, a week or two, then I would take him to a vet to see if the vet has any ideas about the behavior.

Good luck. Obviously you and your wife are dog lovers, and I know first hand how heartbreaking it can be to see an animal suffering like that.
Try a small walk and bring some treats with you. (... (show quote)


Thanks, Emily. And, yeah, we care about our dogs and also most all other animals.

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Apr 8, 2019 21:44:09   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas for the winter. He's been neutered, and up till this evening, housebroke. My wife saw him urinate in the house a few minutes ago, we have, including this dog, five. They come and go in and out of the house, however, with that many dogs coming and going we don't really pay attention to who has been out and who hasn't.

Apparently, this dog hadn't been out all day and the reason for his urinating in the house. When my wife attempted to get put him outside he fought to stay in and after wrestling him out, he cowered by the door shivering with fear.

Yesterday, we heard him yep and come running for the house. I thought perhaps he got zapped by the electric fence. In any event, today he's one terrified dog. Although, some of our other dogs have come in contact with the fence but never acted like this.

I really feel for him, but have no idea what to do. Does anyone have a suggestion?
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Did something scare him when he went outside? Could he have been bitten by a snake or some other animal when he went out side? Has he been urinating often, with no blood in the urine. Check the end of the penis to make sure he does not have any cuts or bug bites on it. If he is in pain in the morning,Collect urine at the vets to find out if he has bladder stones. My guess is that he experienced pain while trying to urinate or that something stung him and he associated it with going outside. You might put him on leash, take him outside, on leash
take a flashlight with you, and walk around where he usually goes and see if there is some place where he seems afraid and see what is different there, from a snake to a broken bottle to a toad that he tried to bite and got the protective fluid that toads use to keep from being eaten. If you find nothing, walk him on leash back into the house through which ever door he normally uses and watch his reaction. When he comes in check him over again for cuts, swelling or any really sensitive spots. Take his temperature (normal is 100.5 to 102.) Way off either way could be real trouble, shock lowers temperature for instance. Check gums, should be pink, usually slightly brighter pink than human gums, pale indicates shock. If all seems fine, keep an eye on him over night and take him out on leash in the morning. In the daylight you may be able to see what might have scared him. If he gets worse see the vet. Let us know what the solution to the problem was,please

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Apr 8, 2019 21:56:38   #
Richard Rowland
 
At the moment he's laying comfortably at our feet. I went out with him a little after 7 pm. he followed me and did the age-old trick of urinating on the tires at the nearest opportunity, however, that's as far as he would go before returning to the porch.

I'll walk him on the leash tomorrow. Thanks, everyone for your kind responses.

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Apr 8, 2019 22:25:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
I agree with this except for the use of a choker. The pinch collar is the best for training. Causes less trauma on the neck. Its important to fasten to both rings not just one.

Don’t give on to the temptation to coddle the dog. What you are in effect doing is rewarding him for this behavior.

Nwtk gives good advice. Dogs need direction and they will be happier with it and you will have a better companion.

Do NOT give the dog valium. The dog just needs direction. Good luck!
I agree with this except for the use of a choker. ... (show quote)


Totally agree on the collar. The wiener was the only one I didn't use the pincher on. She seemed to know right off the bat. Now, when she hears the tinkle of the choker, she comes running. Then it's all business. Lol.

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Apr 8, 2019 23:00:47   #
Rose42
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Totally agree on the collar. The wiener was the only one I didn't use the pincher on. She seemed to know right off the bat. Now, when she hears the tinkle of the choker, she comes running. Then it's all business. Lol.


Lol! It sure wouldn’t be good to put a pinch collar on a wiener dog!

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Apr 8, 2019 23:16:16   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas for the winter. He's been neutered, and up till this evening, housebroke. My wife saw him urinate in the house a few minutes ago, we have, including this dog, five. They come and go in and out of the house, however, with that many dogs coming and going we don't really pay attention to who has been out and who hasn't.

Apparently, this dog hadn't been out all day and the reason for his urinating in the house. When my wife attempted to get put him outside he fought to stay in and after wrestling him out, he cowered by the door shivering with fear.

Yesterday, we heard him yep and come running for the house. I thought perhaps he got zapped by the electric fence. In any event, today he's one terrified dog. Although, some of our other dogs have come in contact with the fence but never acted like this.

I really feel for him, but have no idea what to do. Does anyone have a suggestion?
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas fo... (show quote)


Suffering from psychological shock due to a changed environment, the shock doesn't have to come from leaving a good environment to be in bad environment, or a bad environment to be in a good environment, the fact that the environment has changed sometimes causes a non-adaptable factor in the animals nervous system and the chemistry in his brain is affected.

I picked up a bitch desexed Rockweeler when I was winding up my tree looping business, she had hardly ever been out of a smallish back yard, I brough her back to my place where I had another Rockweeler and a Rhodesian Ridgeback, but she had a fit I couldn't get near her, I would have been torn to pieces, the other dogs felt the same way, she kept throwing herself up in the air and twisting so she landed straight up and down on her back.

When she went unconscious I brought her inside, and she was really sick couldn't keep anything down for about a week, but she got better and joined in chasing the wild life, but she never learner to swim and I was working on it, but one time I wasn't around and she drowned in my duck pond.

I figured it probably was God that done it to spare the wild life so I gave the other two dogs away.

If you think along the lines of chemical imbalance cause by neuropsychological disruption you should be on the right track.




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Apr 9, 2019 00:08:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
Lol! It sure wouldn’t be good to put a pinch collar on a wiener dog!


True! She'd just flip me off!

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Apr 9, 2019 00:14:28   #
debeda
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas for the winter. He's been neutered, and up till this evening, housebroke. My wife saw him urinate in the house a few minutes ago, we have, including this dog, five. They come and go in and out of the house, however, with that many dogs coming and going we don't really pay attention to who has been out and who hasn't.

Apparently, this dog hadn't been out all day and the reason for his urinating in the house. When my wife attempted to get put him outside he fought to stay in and after wrestling him out, he cowered by the door shivering with fear.

Yesterday, we heard him yep and come running for the house. I thought perhaps he got zapped by the electric fence. In any event, today he's one terrified dog. Although, some of our other dogs have come in contact with the fence but never acted like this.

I really feel for him, but have no idea what to do. Does anyone have a suggestion?
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas fo... (show quote)


Take the time for a week or so to take him out and be out there with him. Might not have been the fence, maybe he hurt himself or another dog bit him, or something else random. Also check him out and make sure he's not injured anywhere. Dogs will try to hole up when they're hurt. So nice you adopted him, poor puppy

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Apr 9, 2019 00:52:25   #
EmilyD
 
Kevyn wrote:
May sound dumb but the vet can prescribe Valium

And then what? The dog wakes up and still has the problem.
Strange solution.

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Apr 9, 2019 02:18:54   #
EmilyD
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
At the moment he's laying comfortably at our feet. I went out with him a little after 7 pm. he followed me and did the age-old trick of urinating on the tires at the nearest opportunity, however, that's as far as he would go before returning to the porch.

I'll walk him on the leash tomorrow. Thanks, everyone for your kind responses.

Keep us posted, Richard if you can. I, for one, am interested in the progress you make !

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Apr 9, 2019 06:58:57   #
Hug
 
Wife and I have saved dogs for years. I keep a large pan of good feed (best money can buy) free choice at the ranch headquarters. We neuter the stray dogs and give them a home if they want it. We have had dogs that are as much human as dog. Right now we have 13 dogs and we love all of them.

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Apr 9, 2019 11:10:19   #
bahmer
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas for the winter. He's been neutered, and up till this evening, housebroke. My wife saw him urinate in the house a few minutes ago, we have, including this dog, five. They come and go in and out of the house, however, with that many dogs coming and going we don't really pay attention to who has been out and who hasn't.

Apparently, this dog hadn't been out all day and the reason for his urinating in the house. When my wife attempted to get put him outside he fought to stay in and after wrestling him out, he cowered by the door shivering with fear.

Yesterday, we heard him yep and come running for the house. I thought perhaps he got zapped by the electric fence. In any event, today he's one terrified dog. Although, some of our other dogs have come in contact with the fence but never acted like this.

I really feel for him, but have no idea what to do. Does anyone have a suggestion?
We picked up a stray dog while we were in Texas fo... (show quote)


Maybe you should PM No Propaganda Please or SWMBO and maybe they can help you. The reason that I suggested these two is that they take care of abused boys and the first thing that the abused boy receives when he comes to live with them is a dog. Both SWMBO and NPP No Propaganda Please know about dogs and what to do for them.

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Apr 9, 2019 11:53:07   #
cbpat1
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Thanks, Kevyn.



Actually kevyn is on the right track. Dogs use the same drugs as humans for anxiety. My dogs have been on anxiety medications after surgeries to keep them calm. The vets explained it to us, how animals react similar to drugs as we do. Kevyn should have been a veterinarian.

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Apr 9, 2019 12:04:29   #
Rose42
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Actually kevyn is on the right track. Dogs use the same drugs as humans for anxiety. My dogs have been on anxiety medications after surgeries to keep them calm. The vets explained it to us, how animals react similar to drugs as we do. Kevyn should have been a veterinarian.


No he isn't on the right track - its a ridiculous suggestion for this situation. Just as people are overmedicated the dogs are becoming that way. They don't need pills for anxiety. What they need is effort from their owners on helping them the same way people need a hand rather than popping a pill.

Pills are an easy out. Dogs don't deserve the indignity of our laziness when they are so selfless.

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Apr 9, 2019 12:18:11   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
cbpat1 wrote:
Actually kevyn is on the right track. Dogs use the same drugs as humans for anxiety. My dogs have been on anxiety medications after surgeries to keep them calm. The vets explained it to us, how animals react similar to drugs as we do. Kevyn should have been a veterinarian.


I had a dog who loved White Russians.

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