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May 14, 2014 09:44:08   #
Brian Devon
 
The following list shows what battles the conservatives have lost.

1. The presidential election of 2008
2. The presidential election of 2012
3. The war against pot
4. The war against same sex marriage
5. The war against Obama-care
6. The war against the mainstream media
7. The war against Hollywood
8. The war against diplomacy
9. The war against pre-marital sex
10. The war against undocumented workers
11. The war against science
12. The war against spilling the beans about the founding slavers.
13. The war against women
14. The war against civil rights
15. The war against the U.N.
16. The war against our president's birth certificate
17. The war against the BLM
18. The war against nuclear disarmament
19. The war against the public schools
20. The war against the EPA
21. The war against Hispanics
22. The war against Black Americans

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May 14, 2014 09:57:40   #
Kuznjack
 
The war against public schools is succeeding. It's proponents have successfully concealed its progress.

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May 14, 2014 10:04:21   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Brian Devon wrote:
The following list shows what battles the conservatives have lost.

1. The presidential election of 2008
2. The presidential election of 2012
3. The war against pot
4. The war against same sex marriage
5. The war against Obama-care
6. The war against the mainstream media
7. The war against Hollywood
8. The war against diplomacy
9. The war against pre-marital sex
10. The war against undocumented workers
11. The war against science
12. The war against spilling the beans about the founding slavers.
13. The war against women
14. The war against civil rights
15. The war against the U.N.
16. The war against our president's birth certificate
17. The war against the BLM
18. The war against nuclear disarmament
19. The war against the public schools
20. The war against the EPA
21. The war against Hispanics
22. The war against Black Americans
The following list shows what battles the conserva... (show quote)


The Right has not been right on many things. but what have they really lost.

They will only have lost if they have lost voters.

They have plans to reduce Liberal voters & that may be a gain for them.

Their game plan is "If you are loosing change the rules."

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May 14, 2014 10:04:23   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
And you are one of the idiot sheople that are kept distracted by the false left/right dichotomy perpetuated by the corporate owned and controlled media. When in fact both arms of the corporate party are captive to the for-profit war industry – the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about – and are united in their support for military intervention whenever and wherever possible. Our last Republican president waged wars in two countries without being attacked by either one. Our current Democratic president has extended one of those wars by another ten years and used drones to take military action in several other countries.

You and the rest of the sheople should be smarter than to allow yourselves to get thrown into the counter-productive left vs. right fight hyped by the corporate-owned media and our corporate-owned politicians. If we’re going to fight a binary struggle, it should be populist vs. corporatist. Instead, you sheople continue to let them distract you with phony issues like racism, EVERYBODY is racist, whethter queers should be allowed to marry, and the rest of your bullshit list.

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May 14, 2014 10:04:23   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
And you are one of the idiot sheople that are kept distracted by the false left/right dichotomy perpetuated by the corporate owned and controlled media? When in fact both arms of the corporate party are captive to the for-profit war industry – the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about – and are united in their support for military intervention whenever and wherever possible. Our last repulsive president waged wars in two countries without being attacked by either one. Our current dimwit president has extended one of those wars by another ten years and used drones to take military action in several other countries.

You and the rest of the sheople should be smarter than to allow yourselves to get thrown into the counter-productive left vs. right fight hyped by the corporate-owned media and our corporate-owned politicians. If we’re going to fight a binary struggle, it should be populist vs. corporatist. Instead, you sheople continue to let them distract you with phony issues like racism, EVERYBODY is racist, whethter queers should be allowed to marry, and the rest of your bullshit list.

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May 14, 2014 10:19:17   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Brian

The conservatives do not have a war against blacks, Jews, Hispanics, women or any other ethnic or religious minority. We do, however, have a war against the moral relativism and the "what ever you want to do, and with whom or what is equally honorable, normal, and should be valued and celebrated by all. Unlike the "progressives" we do have a concept of right and wrong and what makes a better and more stable society. The concept by the left that those people who have no desire to go along with this damaging trend should be silenced at all costs, and the tyranny of the immoral should be the law of the land, is deeply imbedded in the "Progressive" philosophy to the detriment of both the individual and the culture. Being threatened, fired and silenced by the schools, government , and the left in general has made us aware of how much we are loosing. and we are starting to fight back. In addition to many personal messages that agree with at least some of my points, I have received many vicious and sometimes threatening messages. Just go ahead and keep sending them, who ever you are, it isn't going to work, particularly with the information I am posting about the homosexual agenda and what the ultimate goals are. Next time someone says that the agenda as I quote it is a lie from the right wing nuts, even though I have documented the sources right from the "Gay activists" themselves, I hope other people reading the posts will take some time to read some of the sources, and realize I am not fabricating information. Always, comments are welcome, no nasty private messages, I am deleting them unread, so you all aren't getting to me anyway..

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May 14, 2014 10:23:00   #
Brian Devon
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
The Right has not been right on many things. but what have they really lost.

They will only have lost if they have lost voters.

They have plans to reduce Liberal voters & that may be a gain for them.

Their game plan is "If you are loosing change the rules."




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Floyd, I think the far right is also losing the battle to change the rules. Have you been following lately, how the courts have begun tossing out these voter i.d. laws that were designed in Republican back rooms, to disenfranchise minority voters.

After rigging the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004, the GOP failed to do so in 2008 and 2012. Their minority voter suppression strategies are not working out as well as they used to.

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May 14, 2014 10:24:53   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
buffalo wrote:
And you are one of the idiot sheople that are kept distracted by the false left/right dichotomy perpetuated by the corporate owned and controlled media? When in fact both arms of the corporate party are captive to the for-profit war industry – the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about – and are united in their support for military intervention whenever and wherever possible. Our last repulsive president waged wars in two countries without being attacked by either one. Our current dimwit president has extended one of those wars by another ten years and used drones to take military action in several other countries.

You and the rest of the sheople should be smarter than to allow yourselves to get thrown into the counter-productive left vs. right fight hyped by the corporate-owned media and our corporate-owned politicians. If we’re going to fight a binary struggle, it should be populist vs. corporatist. Instead, you sheople continue to let them distract you with phony issues like racism, EVERYBODY is racist, whethter queers should be allowed to marry, and the rest of your bullshit list.
And you are one of the idiot sheople that are kept... (show quote)


Yep, we pay trillions to the DoD to protect us from foreign enemies, we pay 100's of billions to protect us from domestic enemies, but we are our own worst enemy. Fighting amongst ourselves about what is the most right or the most wrong and the whole time we're doing that, corporations are transfering Americas wealth overseas and the politicians are doing what they want, while lining their own pockets. The fact is, we're ALL losing. The only internal wars here, have been made up and as long as you fight them, our real enemies get rich - they win, we lose.

We all need to get a grip and stop letting political groups and the media tell us what we should be worrying about. We can figure this out for ourselves and should, because whatever THEY tell us is crap. Do any of you see any politicians avoiding going to a party with the rich and famous - because one of their opponents is attending? They all laugh and play together, because they know that all these disputes are bullshit. They win, we lose if we keep playing their game.

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May 14, 2014 10:39:49   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Yep, we pay trillions to the DoD to protect us from foreign enemies, we pay 100's of billions to protect us from domestic enemies, but we are our own worst enemy. Fighting amongst ourselves about what is the most right or the most wrong and the whole time we're doing that, corporations are transfering Americas wealth overseas and the politicians are doing what they want, while lining their own pockets. The fact is, we're ALL losing. The only internal wars here, have been made up and as long as you fight them, our real enemies get rich - they win, we lose.

We all need to get a grip and stop letting political groups and the media tell us what we should be worrying about. We can figure this out for ourselves and should, because whatever THEY tell us is crap. Do any of you see any politicians avoiding going to a party with the rich and famous - because one of their opponents is attending? They all laugh and play together, because they know that all these disputes are bullshit. They win, we lose if we keep playing their game.
Yep, we pay trillions to the DoD to protect us fro... (show quote)


You are exactly right!

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May 14, 2014 10:41:50   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Yep, we pay trillions to the DoD to protect us from foreign enemies, we pay 100's of billions to protect us from domestic enemies, but we are our own worst enemy. Fighting amongst ourselves about what is the most right or the most wrong and the whole time we're doing that, corporations are transfering Americas wealth overseas and the politicians are doing what they want, while lining their own pockets. The fact is, we're ALL losing. The only internal wars here, have been made up and as long as you fight them, our real enemies get rich - they win, we lose.

We all need to get a grip and stop letting political groups and the media tell us what we should be worrying about. We can figure this out for ourselves and should, because whatever THEY tell us is crap. Do any of you see any politicians avoiding going to a party with the rich and famous - because one of their opponents is attending? They all laugh and play together, because they know that all these disputes are bullshit. They win, we lose if we keep playing their game.
Yep, we pay trillions to the DoD to protect us fro... (show quote)


I don't think that on this site the balance of one side or the other is changing much.

I am I just choosing the wrong topics. Or do you see a slight increase in civility on many posts also?.

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May 14, 2014 11:02:31   #
robert66
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Brian

The conservatives do not have a war against blacks, Jews, Hispanics, women or any other ethnic or religious minority. We do, however, have a war against the moral relativism and the "what ever you want to do, and with whom or what is equally honorable, normal, and should be valued and celebrated by all. Unlike the "progressives" we do have a concept of right and wrong and what makes a better and more stable society. The concept by the left that those people who have no desire to go along with this damaging trend should be silenced at all costs, and the tyranny of the immoral should be the law of the land, is deeply imbedded in the "Progressive" philosophy to the detriment of both the individual and the culture. Being threatened, fired and silenced by the schools, government , and the left in general has made us aware of how much we are loosing. and we are starting to fight back. In addition to many personal messages that agree with at least some of my points, I have received many vicious and sometimes threatening messages. Just go ahead and keep sending them, who ever you are, it isn't going to work, particularly with the information I am posting about the homosexual agenda and what the ultimate goals are. Next time someone says that the agenda as I quote it is a lie from the right wing nuts, even though I have documented the sources right from the "Gay activists" themselves, I hope other people reading the posts will take some time to read some of the sources, and realize I am not fabricating information. Always, comments are welcome, no nasty private messages, I am deleting them unread, so you all aren't getting to me anyway..
Brian br br The conservatives do not have a war a... (show quote)


Do you happen to notice the nasty things that are thrown at anyone who may support the US government? I'm not saying you are a part of it but the insulting mudslinging seems to be a major part of participating on this site. I am accused of being a liberal on this site which to me is not really an insult because technically it means , open minded. So if I am open to learning I'm one step ahead of many who write here. On this site however, liberal, is intended to be an insult. So if someone is liberal it does not necessarily mean they support the gay thing but rather may just accept it. I have went from eally hating the gay thing to deciding that some aspects of the gay movement have merit. It is a fact that some people are born gay. It disturbs me that it would be accepted as a choice but some people do not have that option. I have a daughter in high school , a very redneck high school. I'm into to some of the redneck stuff, that's why we live here. If you were a student here there is no way you would choose to be gay. It would actually be life threatening. There's a few kids who cannot hide it. I thought maybe they were just femme but because my daughter is friends with them I know it is genuine. What do you suggest these boys do? Go to a conversion camp? Be executed? It bothers me a little to be around them but I know this is not a choice for them. Should they have to live their lives in hiding? Is it really going to hurt us if they do what they do at their house? I don't want it shoved down my throat either but it seem as if the Christian groups wouldn't make such a big production out of it things would quiet down.

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May 14, 2014 11:14:25   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
robert66 wrote:
Do you happen to notice the nasty things that are thrown at anyone who may support the US government? I'm not saying you are a part of it but the insulting mudslinging seems to be a major part of participating on this site. I am accused of being a liberal on this site which to me is not really an insult because technically it means , open minded. So if I am open to learning I'm one step ahead of many who write here. On this site however, liberal, is intended to be an insult. So if someone is liberal it does not necessarily mean they support the gay thing but rather may just accept it. I have went from eally hating the gay thing to deciding that some aspects of the gay movement have merit. It is a fact that some people are born gay. It disturbs me that it would be accepted as a choice but some people do not have that option. I have a daughter in high school , a very redneck high school. I'm into to some of the redneck stuff, that's why we live here. If you were a student here there is no way you would choose to be gay. It would actually be life threatening. There's a few kids who cannot hide it. I thought maybe they were just femme but because my daughter is friends with them I know it is genuine. What do you suggest these boys do? Go to a conversion camp? Be executed? It bothers me a little to be around them but I know this is not a choice for them. Should they have to live their lives in hiding? Is it really going to hurt us if they do what they do at their house? I don't want it shoved down my throat either but it seem as if the Christian groups wouldn't make such a big production out of it things would quiet down.
Do you happen to notice the nasty things that are ... (show quote)


Very nice way to put it. Watch out for myself, before I condemn others.

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May 14, 2014 11:44:17   #
CharlesRabb
 
Brian Devon wrote:
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Floyd, I think the far right is also losing the battle to change the rules. Have you been following lately, how the courts have begun tossing out these voter i.d. laws that were designed in Republican back rooms, to disenfranchise minority voters.

After rigging the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004, the GOP failed to do so in 2008 and 2012. Their minority voter suppression strategies are not working out as well as they used to.


Only those who pay taxes should be able to vote!

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May 14, 2014 11:49:44   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
CharlesRabb wrote:
Only those who pay taxes should be able to vote!


Didn't we try that right after the civil war with the blacks? I like a republic where we find ways to not represent people that are governed.

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May 14, 2014 11:51:10   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
CharlesRabb wrote:
Only those who pay taxes should be able to vote!


Can you personally show me someone in this country that actually paid no taxes? This has to be a person that you know, not a fictional character from the internet.

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