son of witless

I hope all of my left wing readers will not accuse me of posting a hit piece. I used the NY Times as my source.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/business/planned-parenthood-pregnant-employee-discrimination-women.html

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

I would imagine to facilitate all of the butchering of life, it takes a "all hands on deck" atmosphere.

They can't have mothers gumming it up.

Kevyn

We need better and tougher regulations so that employers are required to meet the needs of pregnant women. We should also require employers to provide paid sick leave based on how long you work.

Morgan

On this issue I am fully behind you, the US is so far behind other countries it is shameful, in other countries they not only give women time off they also give the fathers time off to be with their new child...how evolved. It's too bad we're stuck in the past.

son of witless

I am conflicted on this for a few surprising reasons. I have no love loss for Planned Parenthood, however if you read the reasons why they failed their pregnant employees, it comes down mostly to money. Managers have to manage. Some knucklehead in government can pass all of the laws he or she wants to, but it generally falls on some boss or manager to make it work.

I just think it is amusing that a liberal organization would find itself in this problem when nobody gives a flying crap when private businesses struggle with some do gooder law.

i agree that pregnant women should be given due consideration. However, if you read the article, complying with the regulations would cost so much money that centers would have to be shut down. Not that it bothers me, but it illustrates the point Liberals never seem to acknowledge. Do gooderism has a cost. Just maybe liberals can figure out how to help with the costs of their dreams.

pafret Loc: Northeast

This sort of discrimination was commonplace, in industry, in the sixties. I knew of several cases where recent mothers were discharged because their babies or young children needed the mother's care. I also saw two pregnant women who were sidelined and discouraged from remaining employees.

The only pregnant woman I ever saw treated decently was the star performer in the Software Engineering department. She was too valuable and perfectly capable of securing other and perhaps better employment. Her Manager moved a recliner chair into her office and provided her with her own water cooler for her exclusive use.

JoyV

The article bends over backwards to excuse PP for their discrimination because of cost of fair treatment for pregnant women. Maybe if they took some of the millions they spend on politician's campaigns, they could afford to treat women as well as non liberal non profits do. Other huge expenses are lobbying, PR, and other political spending. It's all about priorities. Obviously the well being of women is a lower priority for them.
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00314617
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/26/if-nra-owns-republicans-planned-parenthood-owns-democrats-christian-schneider-column/372679002/

pafret Loc: Northeast

Yep, the eternal question "Who is gonna pay the check?" Leftists have not gotten it through their skulls that Uncle Sam does not have an unlimited pot of gold, to draw on and eventually the bill must be paid.

JoyV

It sounds that way until you consider how much money PP actually gets each year and where and what they spend it on. It isn't the managers' fault that they get so little to work with. But PP could funnel far more toward operations if they didn't spend so much on politics. I've posted links in this thread regarding this in another response.

Morgan

Tell me why is it a Liberal dream? You are a supporter of this, yes? If other counties manage this why are we incapable of it? The crucial and essential time of a newborn is the first three months. This could be covered through a persons personal health insurance combined with some employee health benefits. we need to see how others are managing and try it out.

Morgan

It really has little to do with money and more about being humane, as seen when we look at more progressive states as California and New York and a person's right not to be exploited, as many were during the industrial age on down.

New York has employment laws, how often one gets a break, for how long, by the number of hours worked. Versus other states who have no laws on record for adults 18 and above and leave it completely up to the discretion of the establishment. For example, this is common in the southern states who are still very much behind, a company can work you to death if it so chooses and now under Trump's new deregulation they have made it more difficult for a person to bring charges against their employer. It is already almost impossible due to the fact you can get black-balled by your employer. I had looked into this when my son out of high school worked as a cook in IHOP for 13 hour straight with nothing more than a bathroom break and stuffed something in his mouth while he cooked, my research found that there were no protections for him, here in the grand USA.

We are a work in progress, but we have been falling behind.

son of witless

Workers are always the lowest priority. Especially when you can go out and hire new un pregnant ones. I've known private companies who have treated pregnant women well, but it still comes down to economics. A company struggling in a competitive field or that just does not have a large profit margin, will have a hard time balancing the costs of pregnancy with survival.

Of course the hypocrisy of a Liberal Organization not taking care of it's pregnant employees is glaring. That the NY Times did this story amazes me.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

The message is clear enough; get an abortion. I wonder if they offer employee discounts...

Wonttakeitanymore

The men and women do get time off for pregnancy! If they plan it right they can have 6 weeks off every other year or every year depending how fertile you are!!! Those of us who are self- employed must go to work with maybe one week off!!

Morgan

What people are you talking about, this country or another. In this country there isn't any law, it is only discretionary to individual employers, just like allowing you a lousy lunch break.