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5 reasons we need the border wall, now
Dec 31, 2018 00:12:19   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Of course this woman is not a left leaner but she sure is right about all this. Read her words and then tell me why she is right or wrong. I say completely right and only those who can't understand what has happened recently won't agree with her. Well, off course, most of our leaners won't agree with any of it, although none of them will read the whole thing.


https://www.conservativezone.com/5-reasons-why-we-need-the-border-wall-now/

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Dec 31, 2018 07:18:33   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
oldroy wrote:
Of course this woman is not a left leaner but she sure is right about all this. Read her words and then tell me why she is right or wrong. I say completely right and only those who can't understand what has happened recently won't agree with her. Well, off course, most of our leaners won't agree with any of it, although none of them will read the whole thing.


https://www.conservativezone.com/5-reasons-why-we-need-the-border-wall-now/


100% right on everything. I still say we the people need to be able to fire these idiots if they do not do the job they were elected to do if we could maybe they wouldn't be so wasteful and downright stupid. Stand up and support the article five-movement

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Dec 31, 2018 16:45:02   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
bggamers wrote:
100% right on everything. I still say we the people need to be able to fire these idiots if they do not do the job they were elected to do if we could maybe they wouldn't be so wasteful and downright stupid. Stand up and support the article five-movement


Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V meeting although I do want to get rid of many of our legislators. I can't support that thing because I do know what happened when the Congress called people to a meeting to consider some minor changes in the Articles of Confederation and that bunch voted to write a whole new thing which was so much better than the Articles. I am saying that nobody really expected what happened and how do we know what kind of people would be appointed to the one you talk about? What if we should have a bunch of progressives from both parties appointed and they decided to write a new Constitution that was based on what progressives want? Nope, I just can't stand up for something like that that I fear so much.

We CAN fire these people the same way we put them in office. What are elections for if not to hold them accountable? Again, it is progressivism that I fear.

My title and link are about the wall and why we need it not about getting rid of our legislators who can't do their jobs as they should. Lets not get into an argument about your Article V movement. That has almost nothing to do with the fence, other than the fact that progressives don't want the fence.

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Dec 31, 2018 16:46:38   #
woodguru
 
oldroy wrote:
Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V meeting although I do want to get rid of many of our legislators. I can't support that thing because I do know what happened when the Congress called people to a meeting to consider some minor changes in the Articles of Confederation and that bunch voted to write a whole new thing which was so much better than the Articles. I am saying that nobody really expected what happened and how do we know what kind of people would be appointed to the one you talk about? What if we should have a bunch of progressives from both parties appointed and they decided to write a new Constitution that was based on what progressives want? Nope, I just can't stand up for something like that that I fear so much.

We CAN fire these people the same way we put them in office. What are elections for if not to hold them accountable? Again, it is progressivism that I fear.
Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V mee... (show quote)


Like we fired Ryan and the house GOP control?

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Dec 31, 2018 17:54:25   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
oldroy wrote:
Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V meeting although I do want to get rid of many of our legislators. I can't support that thing because I do know what happened when the Congress called people to a meeting to consider some minor changes in the Articles of Confederation and that bunch voted to write a whole new thing which was so much better than the Articles. I am saying that nobody really expected what happened and how do we know what kind of people would be appointed to the one you talk about? What if we should have a bunch of progressives from both parties appointed and they decided to write a new Constitution that was based on what progressives want? Nope, I just can't stand up for something like that that I fear so much.

We CAN fire these people the same way we put them in office. What are elections for if not to hold them accountable? Again, it is progressivism that I fear.

My title and link are about the wall and why we need it not about getting rid of our legislators who can't do their jobs as they should. Lets not get into an argument about your Article V movement. That has almost nothing to do with the fence, other than the fact that progressives don't want the fence.
Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V mee... (show quote)


Read up on a convention of states all they want to do is rain in the federal government and also put in things like politicians length of stay in their position also they can not be a lobbyist for at least 5 years after they have left. read what it's about nothing like what you say. It has to be 34 states they have to petition to join and it has to be voted on and approved it has taken them 2 years to get this far and they still have a way to go.

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Dec 31, 2018 18:03:43   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
oldroy wrote:
Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V meeting although I do want to get rid of many of our legislators. I can't support that thing because I do know what happened when the Congress called people to a meeting to consider some minor changes in the Articles of Confederation and that bunch voted to write a whole new thing which was so much better than the Articles. I am saying that nobody really expected what happened and how do we know what kind of people would be appointed to the one you talk about? What if we should have a bunch of progressives from both parties appointed and they decided to write a new Constitution that was based on what progressives want? Nope, I just can't stand up for something like that that I fear so much.

We CAN fire these people the same way we put them in office. What are elections for if not to hold them accountable? Again, it is progressivism that I fear.

My title and link are about the wall and why we need it not about getting rid of our legislators who can't do their jobs as they should. Lets not get into an argument about your Article V movement. That has almost nothing to do with the fence, other than the fact that progressives don't want the fence.
Sorry, but I just can't support that Article V mee... (show quote)


There is a video with Prageru How the states can save America so far there are 3.7 million supporters all over this country and growing for the convention of states

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Jan 1, 2019 09:37:32   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bggamers wrote:
I still say we the people need to be able to fire these idiots if they do not do the job they were elected to do


That's what elections are for.

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Jan 1, 2019 09:54:04   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
That's what elections are for.


Except with unlimited corporate money (thanks to citizens united) poured into the campaign of a politician that is in that corporations pocket. It is hard to unelcect corporate entrenched politician when he has unlimited resources (corporate money) with which to spread his lies and propaganda that brainwash the easily duped voting sheople. That makes it almost impossible to vote out one of the crooks.

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Jan 1, 2019 10:19:29   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
buffalo wrote:
Except with unlimited corporate money (thanks to citizens united) poured into the campaign of a politician that is in that corporations pocket. It is hard to unelcect corporate entrenched politician when he has unlimited resources (corporate money) with which to spread his lies and propaganda that brainwash the easily duped voting sheople. That makes it almost impossible to vote out one of the crooks.


Welcome to America. Leave your common sense at the border.

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Jan 1, 2019 10:36:18   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
That's what elections are for.

by the time the election comes up look at the damage they can do

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Jan 1, 2019 10:47:17   #
bahmer
 
oldroy wrote:
Of course this woman is not a left leaner but she sure is right about all this. Read her words and then tell me why she is right or wrong. I say completely right and only those who can't understand what has happened recently won't agree with her. Well, off course, most of our leaners won't agree with any of it, although none of them will read the whole thing.


https://www.conservativezone.com/5-reasons-why-we-need-the-border-wall-now/


Spot on and 100% right on everything build the wall and don't listen to Schumer and Pelosi.

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Jan 1, 2019 10:47:24   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
bggamers wrote:
by the time the election comes up look at the damage they can do


there should be a rule they have to sign a paper stating they know what their job is and 5 strikes your out do your job and stay your term NO money to be excepted from corporations during a term no lobbying for five years after

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Jan 1, 2019 16:10:00   #
Lonewolf
 
Been 2 years and trump font know his job


bggamers wrote:
there should be a rule they have to sign a paper stating they know what their job is and 5 strikes your out do your job and stay your term NO money to be excepted from corporations during a term no lobbying for five years after

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Jan 2, 2019 00:37:24   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
bggamers wrote:
Read up on a convention of states all they want to do is rain in the federal government and also put in things like politicians length of stay in their position also they can not be a lobbyist for at least 5 years after they have left. read what it's about nothing like what you say. It has to be 34 states they have to petition to join and it has to be voted on and approved it has taken them 2 years to get this far and they still have a way to go.


I know all about this crap, but it seems that few people who favor it know what did happen when our Constitution was written. Those people were told to clean the Articles of Confederation and they didn't even try. The first agreement they made was to write up a whole new document and off they went. I fear that too many progressives would be appointed and would pull the same trick this time. Read up on the writing of our Constitution and try to find out about why I fear this thing. In case you haven't studied this early Constitution, it may be good for you to try studying it from some other than a left leaning source.

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Jan 2, 2019 00:38:58   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Been 2 years and trump font know his job


So you left leaners really don't think he knows his job. I don't know when you guys tried to tell him about this. Do you? lololoplololol

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