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Dec 24, 2018 06:41:10   #
PeterS
 
The question begged is why hire a fed chairman when you are opposed to what he does?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/22/trump-reportedly-wants-to-fire-fed-chair-powell.html?fbclid=IwAR1qVc_pT_02GFQ_mc1iu1RB6hboXyn0yD2t0IjMu9rigSCrPovEyIDKVZI

President Donald Trump wants to fire Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell for raising interest rates, according to a report, an unprecedented action by a president against the independent body, that could undermine confidence in the U.S. financial system already under the strain of a vicious equity sell-off.

Trump has discussed firing Powell privately because of his frustration with stock market losses in recent months, according to Bloomberg News, which cited four people familiar with the situation. The president's frustration intensified in recent days, with him discussing the firing "many times" during that time, according to the report.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 7 percent this week, its worst week in 10 years, on fears the Fed is unnecessarily slowing the economy as the central bank on Wednesday raised its benchmark interest rate for a fourth time this year. The Dow, which Trump cheered when it was at record highs earlier this year, is now down 9 percent in 2018.

The report said the Trump's advisers have warned him against such a move, which has never been done by a president and it's not even clear whether he has the legal authority to do so. White House and Fed spokespeople declined to comment to Bloomberg.

Can he fire him?
Powell became Fed chair in just February of this year after Trump nominated him to take over for Janet Yellen. He was easily confirmed in the Senate and has a four-year term.

While the president appoints the Fed's board of governors, including the chairman, the central bank "derives its authority from the Congress, which created the System in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act," according to the Fed's website.

"The Board reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress but, unlike many other public agencies, it is not funded by congressional appropriations," the site says

"The President can nominate a chair but once the chair is confirmed, the president is out of it and the only way you can remove a chair from office is literally if they broke the law. Congress will have to find a cause to remove them from office through a vote and a procedure," Ellen Zentner, Morgan Stanley's chief U.S. economist, told CNBC in October.

But Trump has already broken with precedent through his repeated criticism in the second half of this year of the Fed and the chairman to the press and via Twitter, including this week before the central bank hiked rates. Other presidents privately tried to influence the Fed, but none did so in such a public and forceful matter.

'Gone crazy'
"I think the Fed is making a mistake. They are so tight. I think the Fed has gone crazy," the president told reporters in October.

The independence of the Fed is one of the pillars of confidence global investors have in the U.S. financial system. Powell's removal would undermine that confidence because it would now seem the most important central bank was now under the control of a politician, who may not always have the best interests of the economy at heart. Sometimes it's necessary to raise interest rates to keep inflation in check. The Fed has a dual mandate: to maximize employment and stabilize inflation.

After Trump first began his criticism of the Fed in July, former Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher told CNBC the president was out of line.

"One of the hallmarks of our great American economy is preserving the independence of the Federal Reserve. No president should interfere with the workings of the Fed," Fisher said. "Were I Chairman Powell, I would ignore the president and do my job and I am confident he will do just that."

The S&P 500 sits less than 3 percent away from a bear market, pushed there by Fed fears, but also by the trade battle Trump has waged with China and turmoil within his own administration. Contrary to what occurred when he first took office, the president's comments and actions have now turned into a negative for the stock market, because of the uncertainty he is causing.

If Trump were to try to remove Powell or force his resignation it could cause the market to drop at least another five percent, according to Jeff Kilburg, CEO of KKM Financial in Chicago.

But Trump may want to wait and see, Kilburg said, as the Fed is likely to be less aggressive with rate hikes next year.

"Powell will only go one or two times in 2019," he said.

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Dec 24, 2018 06:57:04   #
Seth
 
PeterS wrote:
The question begged is why hire a fed chairman when you are opposed to what he does?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/22/trump-reportedly-wants-to-fire-fed-chair-powell.html?fbclid=IwAR1qVc_pT_02GFQ_mc1iu1RB6hboXyn0yD2t0IjMu9rigSCrPovEyIDKVZI

President Donald Trump wants to fire Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell for raising interest rates, according to a report, an unprecedented action by a president against the independent body, that could undermine confidence in the U.S. financial system already under the strain of a vicious equity sell-off.

Trump has discussed firing Powell privately because of his frustration with stock market losses in recent months, according to Bloomberg News, which cited four people familiar with the situation. The president's frustration intensified in recent days, with him discussing the firing "many times" during that time, according to the report.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 7 percent this week, its worst week in 10 years, on fears the Fed is unnecessarily slowing the economy as the central bank on Wednesday raised its benchmark interest rate for a fourth time this year. The Dow, which Trump cheered when it was at record highs earlier this year, is now down 9 percent in 2018.

The report said the Trump's advisers have warned him against such a move, which has never been done by a president and it's not even clear whether he has the legal authority to do so. White House and Fed spokespeople declined to comment to Bloomberg.

Can he fire him?
Powell became Fed chair in just February of this year after Trump nominated him to take over for Janet Yellen. He was easily confirmed in the Senate and has a four-year term.

While the president appoints the Fed's board of governors, including the chairman, the central bank "derives its authority from the Congress, which created the System in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act," according to the Fed's website.

"The Board reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress but, unlike many other public agencies, it is not funded by congressional appropriations," the site says

"The President can nominate a chair but once the chair is confirmed, the president is out of it and the only way you can remove a chair from office is literally if they broke the law. Congress will have to find a cause to remove them from office through a vote and a procedure," Ellen Zentner, Morgan Stanley's chief U.S. economist, told CNBC in October.

But Trump has already broken with precedent through his repeated criticism in the second half of this year of the Fed and the chairman to the press and via Twitter, including this week before the central bank hiked rates. Other presidents privately tried to influence the Fed, but none did so in such a public and forceful matter.

'Gone crazy'
"I think the Fed is making a mistake. They are so tight. I think the Fed has gone crazy," the president told reporters in October.

The independence of the Fed is one of the pillars of confidence global investors have in the U.S. financial system. Powell's removal would undermine that confidence because it would now seem the most important central bank was now under the control of a politician, who may not always have the best interests of the economy at heart. Sometimes it's necessary to raise interest rates to keep inflation in check. The Fed has a dual mandate: to maximize employment and stabilize inflation.

After Trump first began his criticism of the Fed in July, former Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher told CNBC the president was out of line.

"One of the hallmarks of our great American economy is preserving the independence of the Federal Reserve. No president should interfere with the workings of the Fed," Fisher said. "Were I Chairman Powell, I would ignore the president and do my job and I am confident he will do just that."

The S&P 500 sits less than 3 percent away from a bear market, pushed there by Fed fears, but also by the trade battle Trump has waged with China and turmoil within his own administration. Contrary to what occurred when he first took office, the president's comments and actions have now turned into a negative for the stock market, because of the uncertainty he is causing.

If Trump were to try to remove Powell or force his resignation it could cause the market to drop at least another five percent, according to Jeff Kilburg, CEO of KKM Financial in Chicago.

But Trump may want to wait and see, Kilburg said, as the Fed is likely to be less aggressive with rate hikes next year.

"Powell will only go one or two times in 2019," he said.
The question begged is why hire a fed chairman whe... (show quote)


The Fed shouldn't even exist.

The fact that it does, and that the decisions made by it's governors effect our entire economy should make it more accountable to the U.S. taxpayer. It isn't at all accountable, Congress hasn't even been able to audit it to see what's going on within what amounts to a central bank.

Part of its charter is to bail out troubled banks, yet on the two occasions that was needed, the Fed did no such thing. In fact last time out, you'll recall, the taxpayer did the bailing out.

Owing to the fact that the Fed's unnecessary raising of interest rates at a time when such action does more to hinder than help a recovering economy, the President has every right to be concerned.

There's enough obstruction coming from the Democrats, we don't need more from a central bank that likely wouldn't even exist had America's founders been around to have a say in the matter.

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Dec 24, 2018 07:01:02   #
Idaho
 
[quote=PeterS]

“The independence of the Fed is one of the pillars of confidence global investors have in the U.S. financial system. Powell's removal would undermine that confidence because it would now seem the most important central bank was now under the control of a politician, who may not always have the best interests of the economy at heart. Sometimes it's necessary to raise interest rates to keep inflation in check. The Fed has a dual mandate: to maximize employment and stabilize inflation.”

The Federal Reserve is “independent” all right. It’s the mechanism the elites use to fleece the American people - and central banks world wide - used to fleece the world’s population generally. Why should a cabal of private bankers have that power?

The Fed has never been audited - that’s where I predict this activity is leading to.

Good on Trump! Thank Goodness the Secret Service and the Marines have his back! The last time a President challenged The Federal Reserve was JFK, and we know how that ended.

MAGA - this situation might break the hold this money machine of the elites has over American wealth. Let’s just see what comes next.

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Dec 24, 2018 08:00:08   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
PeterS wrote:
The question begged is why hire a fed chairman when you are opposed to what he does?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/22/trump-reportedly-wants-to-fire-fed-chair-powell.html?fbclid=IwAR1qVc_pT_02GFQ_mc1iu1RB6hboXyn0yD2t0IjMu9rigSCrPovEyIDKVZI

President Donald Trump wants to fire Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell for raising interest rates, according to a report, an unprecedented action by a president against the independent body, that could undermine confidence in the U.S. financial system already under the strain of a vicious equity sell-off.

Trump has discussed firing Powell privately because of his frustration with stock market losses in recent months, according to Bloomberg News, which cited four people familiar with the situation. The president's frustration intensified in recent days, with him discussing the firing "many times" during that time, according to the report.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 7 percent this week, its worst week in 10 years, on fears the Fed is unnecessarily slowing the economy as the central bank on Wednesday raised its benchmark interest rate for a fourth time this year. The Dow, which Trump cheered when it was at record highs earlier this year, is now down 9 percent in 2018.

The report said the Trump's advisers have warned him against such a move, which has never been done by a president and it's not even clear whether he has the legal authority to do so. White House and Fed spokespeople declined to comment to Bloomberg.

Can he fire him?
Powell became Fed chair in just February of this year after Trump nominated him to take over for Janet Yellen. He was easily confirmed in the Senate and has a four-year term.

While the president appoints the Fed's board of governors, including the chairman, the central bank "derives its authority from the Congress, which created the System in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act," according to the Fed's website.

"The Board reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress but, unlike many other public agencies, it is not funded by congressional appropriations," the site says

"The President can nominate a chair but once the chair is confirmed, the president is out of it and the only way you can remove a chair from office is literally if they broke the law. Congress will have to find a cause to remove them from office through a vote and a procedure," Ellen Zentner, Morgan Stanley's chief U.S. economist, told CNBC in October.

But Trump has already broken with precedent through his repeated criticism in the second half of this year of the Fed and the chairman to the press and via Twitter, including this week before the central bank hiked rates. Other presidents privately tried to influence the Fed, but none did so in such a public and forceful matter.

'Gone crazy'
"I think the Fed is making a mistake. They are so tight. I think the Fed has gone crazy," the president told reporters in October.

The independence of the Fed is one of the pillars of confidence global investors have in the U.S. financial system. Powell's removal would undermine that confidence because it would now seem the most important central bank was now under the control of a politician, who may not always have the best interests of the economy at heart. Sometimes it's necessary to raise interest rates to keep inflation in check. The Fed has a dual mandate: to maximize employment and stabilize inflation.

After Trump first began his criticism of the Fed in July, former Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher told CNBC the president was out of line.

"One of the hallmarks of our great American economy is preserving the independence of the Federal Reserve. No president should interfere with the workings of the Fed," Fisher said. "Were I Chairman Powell, I would ignore the president and do my job and I am confident he will do just that."

The S&P 500 sits less than 3 percent away from a bear market, pushed there by Fed fears, but also by the trade battle Trump has waged with China and turmoil within his own administration. Contrary to what occurred when he first took office, the president's comments and actions have now turned into a negative for the stock market, because of the uncertainty he is causing.

If Trump were to try to remove Powell or force his resignation it could cause the market to drop at least another five percent, according to Jeff Kilburg, CEO of KKM Financial in Chicago.

But Trump may want to wait and see, Kilburg said, as the Fed is likely to be less aggressive with rate hikes next year.

"Powell will only go one or two times in 2019," he said.
The question begged is why hire a fed chairman whe... (show quote)


Raised the rates on a smoking economy 4 times in one year? I saw where the rate just kept dropping for Obama, even though you guys say he had a strong economy. Since March 2017, the rate has gone up 6 times, from 0.75 to 2.25. Never raised in Obama's administration, always lowered even with the strong economy you guys said he enjoyed. Obama recently said HE was responsible for Trumps economy, so logically, HE is responsible for the rate hikes....has to be. If I were Trump, I'd fire Powell too, because he's obviously working against the president.

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Dec 24, 2018 09:27:33   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Seth wrote:
The Fed shouldn't even exist.


Created by subterfuge, it operates in secret. There is nothing 'Federal' about the Federal Reserve System.

Time to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and end this nightmare experiment into fiat money creation. Better still, just repeal the legal tender laws and watch it die an ignominious death as the Federal Reserve note finds its intrinsic value.

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Dec 26, 2018 00:46:18   #
DogLover99
 
AUDIT THE FED!

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