mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

To address my biblical worldview on the article that follows, practicing homosexuality is a sin. Notice I didn’t say being a homosexual is a sin. The Bible is replete with passages that condemn sin. And the fact that God hates sin, the only thing that He does hate. And by contrast, the Bible is replete with passages that condemn practicing homosexuality, calling it an abomination among other things. So, let’s not beat around the bush and call practicing homosexuality for what it is…an abomination and a sin. And where does sin lead if it is not forgiven: For the wages of sin is death Romans 6:23a. And what is the solution? The free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23b. That and the passage below provide a very brief biblical lesson on homosexuality…and while we’re at it, transgenderism. If it offends you or you want to call me a bigot so be it. These are God’s words, not mine. Take it up with him if you have a problem with it.

And [Jesus] answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.” Matthew 19:4-6

As the article illustrates below, there are no easy answers to this issue. But that doesn’t mean there are no right answers. mwdegutis

For Professing Christians: We Should All Be Prepared for This Question
John Stonestreet ~ December 12, 2018
When yet another Christian celebrity fails to give a straight answer on a hot-button moral issue, it reveals a deeper problem.

Back in September, an article in Rolling Stone announced, “A Christian Singer is Bigger than Drake and Arianna Grande this Week.” That singer is Lauren Daigle, the Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter whose brilliant voice, soulful style, and hope-filled lyrics has won fans well beyond the Contemporary Christian genre. She’s becoming a regular on talk shows and in national publications, and has officially earned the coveted status of “crossover artist” at just 27 years old.

But with broader appeal comes a challenge: maintaining one’s identity, not as a “Christian singer,” but as a Christian. Sadly, it’s a challenge many Christian celebrities have struggled to handle.

Last week during an interview with iHeart radio, Daigle was asked, given her recent appearance on the Ellen DeGeneres show, whether she believes homosexuality is a sin.

“I can’t honestly answer that,” Daigle replied. “I have too many people that I love, and they are homosexuals.”

She went on to explain that since she’s not God, she can’t say one way or another. Instead, people should just “read the Bible and find out” for themselves.

Now let me say from the beginning here I understand how hard this high-pressure situation can be. For a young woman like Daigle with a skyrocketing career, calling homosexuality a sin in a public forum could mean closing a lot of doors and alienating a lot of fans. There’s a real cost that comes with taking a stand for the Christian view of sex and marriage. Deciding to pay that price in a split second with a microphone shoved in your face is something better-trained theologians and pastors have failed to do.

But this whole story reveals something else—the deep crisis of authority plaguing evangelicalism right now. First, we should be past the point of answering this question, because the Christian view of sex and marriage should be so clear and our commitment to it should be so well-known by now that there should be no longer any point in asking the question!

The reason it still comes up is that too many evangelicals, like mainline Protestant liberals before them, have sounded an uncertain note on this topic. I’m not just talking about those very few pastors and writers who’ve reinvented their faith to accommodate LGBT theology. I’m talking about the epidemic fear to even broach the topic in so many evangelical churches and ministries, and how we’ve avoided the topic especially with our young people, instead wrongly catechizing them to look to their emotions for truth instead.

Neither the Bible nor nearly two millennia of Christian teaching are at any level ambiguous about homosexual behavior. Numerous passages in the Old and New Testaments condemn it, along with any sexual behavior outside of God’s good design for marriage between a man and a woman. No one in Christian history ever doubted this until about five minutes ago. There is no room for disagreement on the point.

For Daigle or any other Christian for that matter to publicly say, “I don’t know whether homosexuality is a sin” is like saying “I don’t know whether stealing or worshipping false gods are sins.”

And that brings up a second angle on the church-wide authority problem we face. When theological training is de-prioritized and even avoided, then our celebrities become our experts. Yes, Daigle should know better. But we should know better than to hold celebrities up as theological authorities.

And finally, we need to ask ourselves: How would we respond in Lauren Daigle’s situation? You might think, well, I’m not a celebrity. But it’s not just celebrities that will be faced with this question in awkward situations.

What will you say when someone with the power to seriously damage your career asks you what you think about a culturally popular sin? For that matter, what will you say at Christmas dinner when that one relative—maybe a relative who identifies as gay—asks you the same question?

There are no easy answers in that moment. But that doesn’t mean there are no right answers.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Being same sex attracted is not a sin. ACTING on that attraction is a sin, however.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Yes I agree. These were first two sentences of my post: To address my biblical worldview on the article that follows, practicing homosexuality is a sin. Notice I didn’t say being a homosexual is a sin.

moldyoldy

What are abominations according to the Bible?
The general meaning of the word "abomination" or abominable" in the Bible is: Something detestable, unlawful or repulsive. But if you think it is always the "other guy", read on...
Regarding the New Jerusalem the Bible says, "But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life." Rev. 21:27. Also Rev. 21:8 says, " But the cowardly, unbelieving, [some text adds "and sinners"], abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
The following is a list of things the Bible considers an abomination:
Unclean things (Lev. 7:21)
Customs of pagans (Lev. 18:30)
Idols (2 Chr. 15:8; 1 Pet. 4:3)
Sins of men (Ps. 14:1; 53:1)
Cheating (Mic. 6:10)
Lost souls (Rev. 21:8)
A froward man (perverse; one who turns aside (Pro. 3:32; 11:20)
A proud look (Pro. 6:16-17)
A lying tongue (Pro. 6:17; 12:22)
Hands that shed innocent blood ((Pro. 6:17)
A wicked scheming heart (Pro. 6:18)
Feet that are quick to sin (Pro. 6:18)
A false witness that speaks lies (Pro. 6:19)
A sower of discord (Pro. 6:19)
Wickedness (Pro. 8:7)
A false balance or scale (Pro. 11:1)
Sacrifices of the wicked (Pro. 15:8; 21:27)
The way of the wicked (Pro. 15:9)
The thoughts of the wicked (Pro. 15:26)
The proud of heart (Pro. 16:5)
Justifying the wicked (Pro. 17:15)
Condemning the just (Pro. 17:15)
Divers, dishonest weights (Pro. 20:10, 23)
Divers, dishonest measures (Pro. 20:10)
Refusing to hear the law (Pro. 28:9)
Prayers of the rebel (Pro. 28:9)
Eating flesh of peace offerings on the 3rd day (Lev. 7:18)
Some same sex acts (Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Dt. 23:18) See GayPrejudice.com
Taking ornaments from idols when being destroyed (Dt. 7:25-26)
Any Idolatrous practices (Dt. 12:31; 13:14; 17:4; 18:9; 20:18; 29:17)
Offering an imperfect animal to God as a sacrifice (Dt. 17:1)
Any traffic with demons (Dt. 18:7-12)
Wearing clothes of the opposite sex (Dt. 22:5) See GayPrejudice.com
Bringing the hire of a harlot or sodomite into God's house (Dt. 23:18)
Re-marriage of former companions (Dt. 24:1-4)
Cheating others (Dt. 25:13-16)
Making images/idols (Dt. 27:15)
Idols of Ammon (1 Ki. 11:5)
Idols of Moab (1 Ki. 11:7; 2 Ki. 11:13)
Idols of Zidon (2 Ki. 23:13)
Incense offered by hypocrites (Isa. 1:13)
Eating unclean things (Isa. 66:17)
Offering human sacrifices (Jer. 32:35)
Robbery (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Murder (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Adultery (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Oppression of others, particularly the poor or vulnerable (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Violence (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Breaking vows (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Lending with interest to a brother (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Lying with a menstruous woman (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Hardness of heart (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Injustice (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Worship of anti-Christ (Dan. 11:31; 12:11; Mt. 24:15; 2 Th. 2:4; Rev. 13)
Incest (Lev. 19: 6-30)
Things highly esteemed by man (Lk. 16:15)
Many other sins of the nations (Lev. 18: 26-29; Dt. 18: 9-12; 20:18; 29:17; 1 Ki. 14:24; 21:2, 11; 23:24; 2 Chr. 28:3; 33:2; 34:33; 36:14; Ezek. 7: 3-20; 8: 6-17; 16: 2-58; 20: 4-30; Rev. 17: 4-5)
It is abundantly clear from scripture that ALL SIN is considered an abomination by God. While one can debate degrees of seriousness and punishment for sin, it is clear that, according to the Bible, ALL sin is an abomination!
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mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

What's your point of your cut and paste moldy? All sin is abominable? OK let's go with that. But much of the scripture you mention doesn't mention abomination. But I notice you didn't include practicing homosexuality which the Bible SPECIFICALLY mentions as an abomination in Leviticus 18:22 ~ You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

moldyoldy

When you pick and choose the sin that bothers you, that bothers me.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

You said anything about picking and choosing? When people openly support sin, see nothing wrong with it, openly try to indoctrinate kids into it, and try to force me to accept it, I have a MAJOR problem with that.. And for your information Mr Smarty Pants, that's any sin.

woodguru

When did it become a christian's place to pass judgement down on another person?

When did it become a sin as a christian to fail to pass down judgement on another person? You get into some really contradictory ground there when you as a christian start infringing on what another person does regardless of your beliefs.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Like when a couple of homosexual dudes single out a Christian baker and start infringing on his beliefs to the point of having his business shutdown. Or when a couple of Lesbians pick out a Christian florist and do the same damned thing. Like when LGBT activists target Christian businesses, file lawsuits against them for sticking with their beliefs, then taking them into a court with a leftist activist on the bench.

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

So do you believe in "Do what thy wilt?"

moldyoldy

[quote=Blade_Runner]Like when a couple of homosexual dudes single out a Christian baker and start infringing on his beliefs to the point of having his business shutdown. Or when a couple of Lesbians pick out a Christian florist and do the same damned thing. Like when LGBT activists target Christian businesses, file lawsuits against them for sticking with their beliefs, then taking them into a court with a leftist activist on the bench.

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?[/quote


Read your quote, it says a lot.

i]There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?[/i][/quote

Wonttakeitanymore

Sin is sin! Worldly people prompted by satan always ask this question regarding homosexuality because it is a test and certain death for a career! The best answer is I believe in the Bible, read it! Sin is sin! Homosexuality is not Gods plan for our bodies, doesn’t work! Even in Home Depot there r male and female fittings why do u think that is?

Wonttakeitanymore

They should just say I’m a Christian, we believe in the Bible!! If u want further discussion read it!

Lonewolf

All sin is punishable by death!!

Kazudy

She not alone there is Joel Olsteen, l have no, none, zero respect for him.