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Again, Republican-controlled state Legislature in has approved new limits on the powers of Democratic Govenor
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Dec 6, 2018 19:55:39   #
Morgan
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You might be right. I have always assumed he was talking about "party's" in general.


Well, this was a much nicer exchange, thank you and not based on us agreeing. I have to work on my writing more... for better clarity, I think I'm being perfectly clear, I try very hard to be, and yet I seem to confuse people. I guess it's a work in progress. Generally, I don't like to be wordy maybe that's the problem.

I hope in the future we can continue to be civil to each other.

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Dec 6, 2018 20:47:51   #
Morgan
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Morgan,

Just to make sure we are on the same page. When I read your initial post, I understood that you were angry over some law that the outgoing (the lame duck administration) was trying to pass to make the incoming elected official's job harder or impossible. And reading this, it seems you are saying that you do not know what laws these are, have not read them, or have a link to the offending legislation. But, you are upset because of the lame duck position that the new administration will be put into. A lame duck position is a term that applies to the outgoing official making most of their laws ineffectual. So, I am kinda confused on why you are angry.

What are you suggesting in your second paragraph? As I read it, it seems that you are suggesting that the representatives should not be voted into office, that the seat should be stagnant. A mandatory limitation. Meaning that the only position to be settled by vote would be for President.... or would you like to see that changed too? Am I understanding you right?

I will set this aside and read it again later. I may have simply missed your point because I have not slept for a few days. I admit, I have not searched for the new legislation. I promise I will do that before drawing further conclusions. Sorry, but I guess I am too tired to be on OPP right now.
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It's been a busy and exhausting day for me also. I will try and clarify. First, let me say I guess I do get angry over manipulations from either party when it is only in their own self-interest to gain control and not in the best interest of our country or governing.

I don't agree with parties seeking full control I believe we would function better with a balance of seats from each party, I realize that's not how it's done, but the manipulations would stop if the number of seats were set, new people would come and go. This would also fit in well with putting term limits on representatives. That's something I find we al agree on.

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Dec 7, 2018 19:15:04   #
woodguru
 
Morgan wrote:
Maybe I can say how I interpret that quote, which I agree with 100% and then you can give me your version. Adams fear was what is happening right night and has happened before but maybe not to the degree it is presently. He was not endorsing one party, that would mean a form of autocratic/dictatorial power. I believe he was referring to having more parties as we use to have, though still two major ones, there were more branches, Conservative, Republic, Libertarian, Democratic, Liberal, even a Communistic. Now we also have the Green Party and the Constitution Party let us also not forget unaffiliated which Washington preferred.

Yes, you're correct he was a founding father.
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He was talking about two parties at war with each other as opposed to working together

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Dec 10, 2018 23:46:48   #
Morgan
 
woodguru wrote:
He was talking about two parties at war with each other as opposed to working together


Yes, that's correct, just like we're seeing today, not the working together part... obviously.

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