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Apr 30, 2014 17:34:40   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".

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Apr 30, 2014 17:43:26   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)


Undocumented worker = illegal alien

Yes they do like to change the connotation through language manipulation

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Apr 30, 2014 17:45:24   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)



They started out as progressives, but made that a bad name, so they changed it to liberal. After awhile they made that into a bad thing, so they tried changing it back to progressive since they figure the people had forgotten about the last time they called themselves progressive. No matter what they call themselves, they will always turn it into a bad name. They are out to tear this country down and they don't care how they do it. To them it is anything goes and to them, the end justifies the means. Changing a name doesn't accomplish much, but does take pressure off then for a very short time, but it doesn't take long for people to wake up to the fact that changing a name is still the same people, so no matter what they call themselves, they are doing the same thing.

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Apr 30, 2014 18:01:54   #
rumitoid
 
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)


Garbage man=sanitary engineer. The first one I rmember. Here are a few more at http://www.scribd.com/doc/6377028/A-List-of-Politically-Correct-Terms: Funny stuff (though not really). Example: "Abortion: near life experience."

A few more from http://techsivam.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/a-list-of-politically-correct-term/:
cerebrally challenged stupid

charm-free boring

chemically inconvenienced drunk

chronologically challenged old

in an orderly transition between career changes unemployed

incomplete success failure

indefinitely idled unemployed

individual with temporarily unmet objectives a failure (person)

inoperative statement mistake

involuntarily leisured unemployed

involuntarily undomiciled homeless

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Apr 30, 2014 18:09:20   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
If you quack like a duck, walk like a duck, have feet like a duck, look like a duck Most likely your a duck.
MrEd wrote:
They started out as progressives, but made that a bad name, so they changed it to liberal. After awhile they made that into a bad thing, so they tried changing it back to progressive since they figure the people had forgotten about the last time they called themselves progressive. No matter what they call themselves, they will always turn it into a bad name. They are out to tear this country down and they don't care how they do it. To them it is anything goes and to them, the end justifies the means. Changing a name doesn't accomplish much, but does take pressure off then for a very short time, but it doesn't take long for people to wake up to the fact that changing a name is still the same people, so no matter what they call themselves, they are doing the same thing.
They started out as progressives, but made that a ... (show quote)

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Apr 30, 2014 18:10:51   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)


A rose by any other name, is still a rose. The same is true for those above - no matter the nomenclature, the image is still the same.

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Apr 30, 2014 18:33:33   #
Brian Devon
 
[quote=hprinze]For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".

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Apr 30, 2014 19:08:20   #
Nickolai
 
[quote=Brian Devon]
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)



Language always come with what is called framing. Every word is defined relative to a conceptual framework. If you put voter in front of revolt you get a metaphorical meaning that implies a population is being ruled unfairly. Why do conservatives appear to be better at framing? Because they have put billions into it. In 1970 Supreme Court Justice Lewis Powell wrote a memo to the National Chamber of Commerce. saying that all of our best students are becoming anti-business because of the Vietnam war., and that we needed to do something about it. Powell's agenda included getting wealthy conservatives to set up professorships, setting up institute and off campus where intellectuals would write books from a conservative business perspective, and setting up think tanks. He outlined the whole thing in 1970.

They set up the Heritage Foundation in1973 and the Manhattan Institute after that. There are many others such as the American Enterprise Institute and the Hoover Institute at Stanford. that date from the 1940's

Frank Luntz has made a sucsessful career as a specialist of testing language to help clients such as Fox News in finding words and phrases that help effect public opinion. He for instance invented the idea of changing the inherantance tax or Estatre tax into the more onerous "Death Tax"

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Apr 30, 2014 19:28:20   #
Ve'hoe
 
Obama- president


Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Undocumented worker = illegal alien

Yes they do like to change the connotation through language manipulation

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Apr 30, 2014 19:30:46   #
Ve'hoe
 
Bullshit,,,,, it is that the conservatives are waking up and not allowing you to monopolize the conversations anymore, therefore you get mad and begin whining and calling names.. explaining why you cant dominate the arguments anymore.


Nickolai wrote:
Language always come with what is called framing. Every word is defined relative to a conceptual framework. If you put voter in front of revolt you get a metaphorical meaning that implies a population is being ruled unfairly. Why do conservatives appear to be better at framing? Because they have put billions into it. In 1970 Supreme Court Justice Lewis Powell wrote a memo to the National Chamber of Commerce. saying that all of our best students are becoming anti-business because of the Vietnam war., and that we needed to do something about it. Powell's agenda included getting wealthy conservatives to set up professorships, setting up institute and off campus where intellectuals would write books from a conservative business perspective, and setting up think tanks. He outlined the whole thing in 1970.

They set up the Heritage Foundation in1973 and the Manhattan Institute after that. There are many others such as the American Enterprise Institute and the Hoover Institute at Stanford. that date from the 1940's

Frank Luntz has made a sucsessful career as a specialist of testing language to help clients such as Fox News in finding words and phrases that help effect public opinion. He for instance invented the idea of changing the inherantance tax or Estatre tax into the more onerous "Death Tax"
Language always come with what is called framing. ... (show quote)

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Apr 30, 2014 19:31:01   #
rumitoid
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Obama- president


Lol, tongue deeply recessed into fleshy outer covering of mouth area. Funny.

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Apr 30, 2014 19:38:35   #
Ve'hoe
 
Even a blind hog gets a truffle now and again...

rumitoid wrote:
Lol, tongue deeply recessed into fleshy outer covering of mouth area. Funny.

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Apr 30, 2014 20:01:49   #
Ricktloml
 
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)


I would add another to your list, those who refer to the butchering of un-born children as choice, instead of abortion

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Apr 30, 2014 20:36:25   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Undocumented worker = illegal alien

Yes they do like to change the connotation through language manipulation


You forgot "illegal alien= as yet unregistered Democratic voters."

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Apr 30, 2014 20:44:14   #
Glaucon
 
hprinze wrote:
For years, there have been people who are ashamed of what they are. Instead of changing what they are many of them decide to call themselves by a different description. I will name only three examples:

Brain dead liberal, socialistic left wingers have decided to call themselves progressives even though there is no progress to be acheived through their agenda, only ruin for the USA.

Criminals in prisons have decided to call themselves inmates. People who have been commited to mental hospitals are inmates. Criminals in prison are prisoners.

Homosexuals have decided to call themselves gay. Queer perverts are not happy, festive, laughing, singing happy people. That's what gay means. And queer is certainly a more apt description of homosexials than gay is.

I understand why people who are ashamed of themselves don't want to be called what they are. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent, sensible people fall all over themselves pandering to these people and revising the English langiage to cater to them.

I cannot bring myself to call socialists "progressive" or to call prisoners "inmates" or to call queers "gay".
For years, there have been people who are ashamed ... (show quote)


What are the other bigots calling themselves now? I know racists hate it when you out them and they have tried without success twisting it around and calling the person who outs them as being, rasist a racist. Most people are wise to that dodge, but have they adopted a new name to hide their racism and bigotry? People used to refer to people like you as idiots. Do you have a new name for your pathology?

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