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Apr 28, 2014 08:11:31   #
Jim Miller
 
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free market economy. I believe that a Republic is the best form of constitutional government under the rule of law. I do not believe Socialism is the answer to societies major issues, accept for some utilities and infrastructure such as roads and bridges. I support lower taxation (Fair Tax) which eliminates the income tax and the IRS. I believe that all government agencies need to be downsized and States rights enhanced while also downsized. Government should be local with elected officials that activate the citizens to participate. I believe that Libertarian thought and economics according to Ludwig Von Mises provides a more enlightened foundation for freedom and economic growth than Keynes or Karl Marx. Given these positions, I believe America is close to economic and political collapse into a Nazi type of Socialism.

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Apr 28, 2014 08:17:45   #
Patty
 
Welcome. There are a few of us here who believe the same way. Don't let the bully trolls drive you away Jim.
Jim Miller wrote:
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free market economy. I believe that a Republic is the best form of constitutional government under the rule of law. I do not believe Socialism is the answer to societies major issues, accept for some utilities and infrastructure such as roads and bridges. I support lower taxation (Fair Tax) which eliminates the income tax and the IRS. I believe that all government agencies need to be downsized and States rights enhanced while also downsized. Government should be local with elected officials that activate the citizens to participate. I believe that Libertarian thought and economics according to Ludwig Von Mises provides a more enlightened foundation for freedom and economic growth than Keynes or Karl Marx. Given these positions, I believe America is close to economic and political collapse into a Nazi type of Socialism.
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free ... (show quote)

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Apr 28, 2014 08:22:13   #
rich278
 
If you were a true fiscal conservative you would be a Democrat. Google spending by Presidents, you will find that spending and debt reduction is done under Democrats more than Republicans.

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Apr 28, 2014 08:32:11   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Jim Miller wrote:
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free market economy. I believe that a Republic is the best form of constitutional government under the rule of law. I do not believe Socialism is the answer to societies major issues, accept for some utilities and infrastructure such as roads and bridges. I support lower taxation (Fair Tax) which eliminates the income tax and the IRS. I believe that all government agencies need to be downsized and States rights enhanced while also downsized. Government should be local with elected officials that activate the citizens to participate. I believe that Libertarian thought and economics according to Ludwig Von Mises provides a more enlightened foundation for freedom and economic growth than Keynes or Karl Marx. Given these positions, I believe America is close to economic and political collapse into a Nazi type of Socialism.
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free ... (show quote)


My God! A real American...we can use all we can get. If you have thick skin and can string together a relevant thought or two, you will have a lot of fun here. Welcome...

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Apr 28, 2014 08:37:08   #
Patty
 
Go to table 7.1.http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
rich278 wrote:
If you were a true fiscal conservative you would be a Democrat. Google spending by Presidents, you will find that spending and debt reduction is done under Democrats more than Republicans.

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Apr 28, 2014 09:07:32   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Welcome, Mr. Jim Miller.

Hope you enjoy your stay with us. Time on the OPP can sometimes be depressing, but hang in there. I have found much can be learned from reading other people's thoughts. Glean what good you can from them and toss the rest...accordingly. :wink:

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Apr 28, 2014 12:22:13   #
Patty
 
There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.
–Ludwig von Mises

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Apr 28, 2014 12:56:19   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
Welcome on board Jim. Don't let those who bash your beliefs drive you off. For the most part they only know how to bash and not how to voice their own opinions. It is better to just ignore them because all you'll get from reasonable discussion is more smearing.
Any way, welcome on board.

Jim Miller wrote:
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free market economy. I believe that a Republic is the best form of constitutional government under the rule of law. I do not believe Socialism is the answer to societies major issues, accept for some utilities and infrastructure such as roads and bridges. I support lower taxation (Fair Tax) which eliminates the income tax and the IRS. I believe that all government agencies need to be downsized and States rights enhanced while also downsized. Government should be local with elected officials that activate the citizens to participate. I believe that Libertarian thought and economics according to Ludwig Von Mises provides a more enlightened foundation for freedom and economic growth than Keynes or Karl Marx. Given these positions, I believe America is close to economic and political collapse into a Nazi type of Socialism.
I am a fiscal conservative supporting a true free ... (show quote)

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Apr 28, 2014 18:44:34   #
Jim Miller
 
The trolls are at work, as expected. I stated that I am a fiscal conservative. I am neither a Republican or a Democrat, as I believe under the current paradigm, that they are the same party. The Federal Reserve System is actually in control of the country, run by the Council on Foreign Relations in New York City. This has been an established fact for many years, as evidenced by each President, Republican or Democrat being surrounded by CFL men and women. To enter into an argument utilizing blame for one party over another is a fools errand, which only demonstrates lack of understanding. The real dichotomy to understand is "freedom" versus "tyranny", which is never discussed by the media. To even ask the question begs the logical responses that the CFL desires to remain hidden.

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Apr 28, 2014 18:48:11   #
Jim Miller
 
It is a sad state of affairs. You are correct in that collapse is inevitable. I am very fearful that the collapse will be used as a means to an end...total martial law and an end to the Constitution.

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Apr 28, 2014 22:11:50   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
Like you Jiim, I have been really worried what the FED will do next to add to their wealth and to our current bad, bad situation. It is about time for them to start calling back in all the phoney money they've been flooding the country (world) with and bring about the biggest depression of all time.
We in the US will sure lose our Constitutional protections and I can't see any way out for the country, possibly even for ourselves as individuals.
I, too, am a fiscal conservative but our views seem to be shared by no one in Congress.


Jim Miller wrote:
It is a sad state of affairs. You are correct in that collapse is inevitable. I am very fearful that the collapse will be used as a means to an end...total martial law and an end to the Constitution.

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Apr 28, 2014 22:44:17   #
Jim Miller
 
What is needed is a strong coalition of like minded conservatives working locally to bring about Constitutional order and the rule of law when it occurs. The power of a small group of informed compassionate but disciplined people is always underrated. A small light in a dark room illuminates a large space. Be vigilante and ever hopeful. :)

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Apr 28, 2014 22:47:22   #
Jim Miller
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
Like you Jiim, I have been really worried what the FED will do next to add to their wealth and to our current bad, bad situation. It is about time for them to start calling back in all the phoney money they've been flooding the country (world) with and bring about the biggest depression of all time.
We in the US will sure lose our Constitutional protections and I can't see any way out for the country, possibly even for ourselves as individuals.
I, too, am a fiscal conservative but our views seem to be shared by no one in Congress.
Like you Jiim, I have been really worried what the... (show quote)


A great fall would be good. However, we need to have the courts and the local sheriffs in line with the constitution to control the situation. Education is now the greatest weapon against tyranny. Educate, educate, educate.

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Apr 28, 2014 22:51:34   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
Conservatives working locally can effect only a very few in Congress. I doubt that that'll bring about Constitutional Order. But I am willing to give it a try. Maybe enough "small groups working locally" can really make a big difference. That I would love to see. God Bless!

Jim Miller wrote:
What is needed is a strong coalition of like minded conservatives working locally to bring about Constitutional order and the rule of law when it occurs. The power of a small group of informed compassionate but disciplined people is always underrated. A small light in a dark room illuminates a large space. Be vigilante and ever hopeful. :)

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Apr 28, 2014 23:29:44   #
Jim Miller
 
Locally, the area that will have the greatest effect will be to have in place a mechanism of "credit". Credit is really debt, but if it is backed by sufficient "collateral" it becomes a useful and necessary part of a free market that facilitates the growth of a local economy. Chaos can be averted if the people can trade. In fact, it only takes a very little trade at a higher level than barter for people to get their needs satisfied. When the Federal Reserve System (FRS) collapses under its own fiat currency, the government it controls will try to confiscate property, both public and private. These trade mechanisms will need to be in place soon. Barter alone will not be sufficient. A method for deflating the "debt" amounts in today's dollars will need to be put in place to legally defer the higher governmental and private parties from confiscating the land and assets. It is these assets that can be used locally to "monetize" the new debt, allowing it to be carried forward legally to avoid wholesale default. This is the single major driver to reduce both private and public debt locally...allowing the people in each jurisdiction to keep their land and assets. A "local bank" can do this with strict controls in place to avoid "loaning out" the reserves, but having enough collateral to support the localized currency.

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