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Oct 21, 2018 17:14:24   #
HonorNCourage57 Loc: Born in Louisiana!!!living in Burien, Washing
 
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mexico border
By Eric London
21, October 2018

Donald Trump threatened Thursday to deploy the US military to close the US-Mexico border as a caravan of 4,000 immigrants fleeing Honduras in search of asylum approached the southern border of Mexico.

Calling the caravan an “onslaught” and an “assault,” Trump demanded that Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico all use armed force to stop the immigrants, tweeting:

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Deploying the armed forces to “seal the border” poses the threat of mass arrests, mass detention and extensive military checkpoints. It raises the specter of martial law and violates the democratic principle of posse comitatus, which bars the military from carrying out law enforcement activities within the country.

The immigrants marching north have maintained a hopeful and defiant spirit despite Trump’s threats. The caravan, which is made up of people who would normally make their way separately toward the US border, has been transformed into a political demonstration whose daily movements are followed closely by all the region’s major media outlets, along with the US Spanish-language network Univision.

As the marchers, many of them mothers with young children, moved northwest en route to the United States, they chanted and waved Honduran flags and greeted onlookers, who delivered donations of food and water.

These Honduran workers and impoverished peasants are fleeing a country ravished by imperialist exploitation and US-backed death squads and thrown into disarray by the 2009 coup that overthrew the country’s elected president Manuel Zelaya—an international crime overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In press interviews, the immigrants are gaining widespread popularity for denouncing the inequality, corruption and state violence that plague all of Central America.

The Mexican government has responded to Trump’s orders by preparing to carry out the dirty work of his administration’s crackdown on immigrants, including physical repression. Yesterday, black airplanes carrying several hundred Mexican federal police armed with riot gear arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border. Helicopters were also deployed to monitor the border region.

The Mexican consulate in Guatemala published a statement saying immigrants who wish to enter Mexico must have “travel documents and a visa” and that those who “enter into the country in an irregular manner” will be returned “to their country of origin, in a secure and orderly manner.”

US discussions with the Mexican government have involved both the administration of outgoing president Enrique Peña Nieto and representatives of incoming president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won election in July and will take office December 1. Trump dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Mexico City yesterday for meetings today with Peña Nieto, sitting Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray, and his soon-to-be replacement Marcelo Ebard.

The threat to deploy the military to the border was greeted with outrage across Mexico, a country that lost half its territory to US invasion in the Mexican-American war of 1844-45 and was invaded by the US on multiple occasions during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-20.

Lopez Obrador’s incoming foreign secretary, Ebard, cynically dismissed Trump’s threat in a radio interview on Radio Centro: “The position of President Trump is the same he has always put forward, I don’t see this as anything surprising, it would surprise me if he took a different position.”

The Trump administration and the Republican Party have elevated the false “threat” posed by the caravan to whip up fascistic xenophobic sentiment in the run-up to the midterm elections, less than three weeks away. Trump also tweeted yesterday:

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S...”

Trump and his administration are working toward the reimplementation of a version of the family separation policy enacted last spring, when thousands of immigrant children were taken from their parents and loved ones. As Trump said during his recent “60 Minutes” interview, “When you allow the parents to stay together, OK, when you allow that, then what happens is people are gonna pour into our country.”

Officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have issued hysterical statements calling for the re-establishment of family separation.

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS, demanded politicians “close catch-and-release loopholes in the law that would allow authorities to detain and remove family units safely and expeditiously… However, the removal of actual family units, or those posing as family units, has been made virtually impossible by congressional inaction—which will most likely result in record numbers of families arriving illegally in the United States this year.”

The Democratic Party has instructed its candidates to ignore or to publicly support Trump’s attack on immigrants in the run-up to the elections.

At a recent speaking engagement in Austin, Texas, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told candidates not to focus on Trump’s attacks on immigrants, explaining that calling for “shutting down ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]” merely “serves the president’s purpose.” Pelosi said she tells Democratic candidates that focusing on the issue would “waste energy.”

At an event at Harvard University this week, Pelosi proclaimed the Democratic Party’s desire to “find common ground” with Trump, explaining that Democrats “have to always try” to find ways to work with Trump. She said she thought Trump’s proposal to construct a border wall between the US and Mexico would be “expensive” and “ineffective” at stopping immigrants. She portrayed Trump’s desire to build a wall as a gender issue, explaining it was merely a “manhood issue for the president.”

Trump’s threats and the willingness of the Democratic Party to help him conduct the crackdown on immigrants underscore the sharp threats posed to the working class, immigrant and nonimmigrant alike. The ruling class is preparing to respond to the class struggle in the same way that it is moving against immigrants: with repressive violence and martial law.

http://www.wsws.org



If that is what President Trump wants in order to save our Country and it's Borders, that's great to me.!!! Full Speed Ahead!!! President. If our Military can do a better job then our Border Patrols can, then Send them in and kick our Border Patrol out. Our Military can do the Job!!!! ' Be a Gopher and Go for it." Now what do Y'all fell and think?

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Oct 21, 2018 17:23:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mexico border
By Eric London
21, October 2018

Donald Trump threatened Thursday to deploy the US military to close the US-Mexico border as a caravan of 4,000 immigrants fleeing Honduras in search of asylum approached the southern border of Mexico.

Calling the caravan an “onslaught” and an “assault,” Trump demanded that Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico all use armed force to stop the immigrants, tweeting:

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Deploying the armed forces to “seal the border” poses the threat of mass arrests, mass detention and extensive military checkpoints. It raises the specter of martial law and violates the democratic principle of posse comitatus, which bars the military from carrying out law enforcement activities within the country.

The immigrants marching north have maintained a hopeful and defiant spirit despite Trump’s threats. The caravan, which is made up of people who would normally make their way separately toward the US border, has been transformed into a political demonstration whose daily movements are followed closely by all the region’s major media outlets, along with the US Spanish-language network Univision.

As the marchers, many of them mothers with young children, moved northwest en route to the United States, they chanted and waved Honduran flags and greeted onlookers, who delivered donations of food and water.

These Honduran workers and impoverished peasants are fleeing a country ravished by imperialist exploitation and US-backed death squads and thrown into disarray by the 2009 coup that overthrew the country’s elected president Manuel Zelaya—an international crime overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In press interviews, the immigrants are gaining widespread popularity for denouncing the inequality, corruption and state violence that plague all of Central America.

The Mexican government has responded to Trump’s orders by preparing to carry out the dirty work of his administration’s crackdown on immigrants, including physical repression. Yesterday, black airplanes carrying several hundred Mexican federal police armed with riot gear arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border. Helicopters were also deployed to monitor the border region.

The Mexican consulate in Guatemala published a statement saying immigrants who wish to enter Mexico must have “travel documents and a visa” and that those who “enter into the country in an irregular manner” will be returned “to their country of origin, in a secure and orderly manner.”

US discussions with the Mexican government have involved both the administration of outgoing president Enrique Peña Nieto and representatives of incoming president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won election in July and will take office December 1. Trump dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Mexico City yesterday for meetings today with Peña Nieto, sitting Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray, and his soon-to-be replacement Marcelo Ebard.

The threat to deploy the military to the border was greeted with outrage across Mexico, a country that lost half its territory to US invasion in the Mexican-American war of 1844-45 and was invaded by the US on multiple occasions during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-20.

Lopez Obrador’s incoming foreign secretary, Ebard, cynically dismissed Trump’s threat in a radio interview on Radio Centro: “The position of President Trump is the same he has always put forward, I don’t see this as anything surprising, it would surprise me if he took a different position.”

The Trump administration and the Republican Party have elevated the false “threat” posed by the caravan to whip up fascistic xenophobic sentiment in the run-up to the midterm elections, less than three weeks away. Trump also tweeted yesterday:

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S...”

Trump and his administration are working toward the reimplementation of a version of the family separation policy enacted last spring, when thousands of immigrant children were taken from their parents and loved ones. As Trump said during his recent “60 Minutes” interview, “When you allow the parents to stay together, OK, when you allow that, then what happens is people are gonna pour into our country.”

Officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have issued hysterical statements calling for the re-establishment of family separation.

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS, demanded politicians “close catch-and-release loopholes in the law that would allow authorities to detain and remove family units safely and expeditiously… However, the removal of actual family units, or those posing as family units, has been made virtually impossible by congressional inaction—which will most likely result in record numbers of families arriving illegally in the United States this year.”

The Democratic Party has instructed its candidates to ignore or to publicly support Trump’s attack on immigrants in the run-up to the elections.

At a recent speaking engagement in Austin, Texas, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told candidates not to focus on Trump’s attacks on immigrants, explaining that calling for “shutting down ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]” merely “serves the president’s purpose.” Pelosi said she tells Democratic candidates that focusing on the issue would “waste energy.”

At an event at Harvard University this week, Pelosi proclaimed the Democratic Party’s desire to “find common ground” with Trump, explaining that Democrats “have to always try” to find ways to work with Trump. She said she thought Trump’s proposal to construct a border wall between the US and Mexico would be “expensive” and “ineffective” at stopping immigrants. She portrayed Trump’s desire to build a wall as a gender issue, explaining it was merely a “manhood issue for the president.”

Trump’s threats and the willingness of the Democratic Party to help him conduct the crackdown on immigrants underscore the sharp threats posed to the working class, immigrant and nonimmigrant alike. The ruling class is preparing to respond to the class struggle in the same way that it is moving against immigrants: with repressive violence and martial law.

http://www.wsws.org



If that is what President Trump wants in order to save our Country and it's Borders, that's great to me.!!! Full Speed Ahead!!! President. If our Military can do a better job then our Border Patrols can, then Send them in and kick our Border Patrol out. Our Military can do the Job!!!! ' Be a Gopher and Go for it." Now what do Y'all fell and think?
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mex... (show quote)


Bring out the tanks, air power, artillery, and troops. They have no rights to cross our border.

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Oct 21, 2018 17:40:59   #
HonorNCourage57 Loc: Born in Louisiana!!!living in Burien, Washing
 
padremike wrote:
Bring out the tanks, air power, artillery, and troops. They have no rights to cross our border.




That's a Big 10/4!! padremike!!!!

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Oct 21, 2018 17:46:22   #
EmilyD
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mexico border
By Eric London
21, October 2018

Donald Trump threatened Thursday to deploy the US military to close the US-Mexico border as a caravan of 4,000 immigrants fleeing Honduras in search of asylum approached the southern border of Mexico.

Calling the caravan an “onslaught” and an “assault,” Trump demanded that Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico all use armed force to stop the immigrants, tweeting:

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Deploying the armed forces to “seal the border” poses the threat of mass arrests, mass detention and extensive military checkpoints. It raises the specter of martial law and violates the democratic principle of posse comitatus, which bars the military from carrying out law enforcement activities within the country.

The immigrants marching north have maintained a hopeful and defiant spirit despite Trump’s threats. The caravan, which is made up of people who would normally make their way separately toward the US border, has been transformed into a political demonstration whose daily movements are followed closely by all the region’s major media outlets, along with the US Spanish-language network Univision.

As the marchers, many of them mothers with young children, moved northwest en route to the United States, they chanted and waved Honduran flags and greeted onlookers, who delivered donations of food and water.

These Honduran workers and impoverished peasants are fleeing a country ravished by imperialist exploitation and US-backed death squads and thrown into disarray by the 2009 coup that overthrew the country’s elected president Manuel Zelaya—an international crime overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In press interviews, the immigrants are gaining widespread popularity for denouncing the inequality, corruption and state violence that plague all of Central America.

The Mexican government has responded to Trump’s orders by preparing to carry out the dirty work of his administration’s crackdown on immigrants, including physical repression. Yesterday, black airplanes carrying several hundred Mexican federal police armed with riot gear arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border. Helicopters were also deployed to monitor the border region.

The Mexican consulate in Guatemala published a statement saying immigrants who wish to enter Mexico must have “travel documents and a visa” and that those who “enter into the country in an irregular manner” will be returned “to their country of origin, in a secure and orderly manner.”

US discussions with the Mexican government have involved both the administration of outgoing president Enrique Peña Nieto and representatives of incoming president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won election in July and will take office December 1. Trump dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Mexico City yesterday for meetings today with Peña Nieto, sitting Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray, and his soon-to-be replacement Marcelo Ebard.

The threat to deploy the military to the border was greeted with outrage across Mexico, a country that lost half its territory to US invasion in the Mexican-American war of 1844-45 and was invaded by the US on multiple occasions during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-20.

Lopez Obrador’s incoming foreign secretary, Ebard, cynically dismissed Trump’s threat in a radio interview on Radio Centro: “The position of President Trump is the same he has always put forward, I don’t see this as anything surprising, it would surprise me if he took a different position.”

The Trump administration and the Republican Party have elevated the false “threat” posed by the caravan to whip up fascistic xenophobic sentiment in the run-up to the midterm elections, less than three weeks away. Trump also tweeted yesterday:

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S...”

Trump and his administration are working toward the reimplementation of a version of the family separation policy enacted last spring, when thousands of immigrant children were taken from their parents and loved ones. As Trump said during his recent “60 Minutes” interview, “When you allow the parents to stay together, OK, when you allow that, then what happens is people are gonna pour into our country.”

Officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have issued hysterical statements calling for the re-establishment of family separation.

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS, demanded politicians “close catch-and-release loopholes in the law that would allow authorities to detain and remove family units safely and expeditiously… However, the removal of actual family units, or those posing as family units, has been made virtually impossible by congressional inaction—which will most likely result in record numbers of families arriving illegally in the United States this year.”

The Democratic Party has instructed its candidates to ignore or to publicly support Trump’s attack on immigrants in the run-up to the elections.

At a recent speaking engagement in Austin, Texas, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told candidates not to focus on Trump’s attacks on immigrants, explaining that calling for “shutting down ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]” merely “serves the president’s purpose.” Pelosi said she tells Democratic candidates that focusing on the issue would “waste energy.”

At an event at Harvard University this week, Pelosi proclaimed the Democratic Party’s desire to “find common ground” with Trump, explaining that Democrats “have to always try” to find ways to work with Trump. She said she thought Trump’s proposal to construct a border wall between the US and Mexico would be “expensive” and “ineffective” at stopping immigrants. She portrayed Trump’s desire to build a wall as a gender issue, explaining it was merely a “manhood issue for the president.”

Trump’s threats and the willingness of the Democratic Party to help him conduct the crackdown on immigrants underscore the sharp threats posed to the working class, immigrant and nonimmigrant alike. The ruling class is preparing to respond to the class struggle in the same way that it is moving against immigrants: with repressive violence and martial law.

http://www.wsws.org



If that is what President Trump wants in order to save our Country and it's Borders, that's great to me.!!! Full Speed Ahead!!! President. If our Military can do a better job then our Border Patrols can, then Send them in and kick our Border Patrol out. Our Military can do the Job!!!! ' Be a Gopher and Go for it." Now what do Y'all fell and think?
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mex... (show quote)

So crossing the border is not a crime to you? You think we should just do nothing and allow 7,000 people to charge our border and be allowed in? What kind of precedent do you think that is setting for the rest of the world? What kind of slippery slope does that mean for YOU? Are you ready to lose your home to someone who demands that it now belongs to him? I don't know about you, but I'm going to get another german shepard and a few more guns...

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Oct 21, 2018 18:22:26   #
HonorNCourage57 Loc: Born in Louisiana!!!living in Burien, Washing
 
EmilyD wrote:
So crossing the border is not a crime to you? You think we should just do nothing and allow 7,000 people to charge our border and be allowed in? What kind of precedent do you think that is setting for the rest of the world? What kind of slippery slope does that mean for YOU? Are you ready to lose your home to someone who demands that it now belongs to him? I don't know about you, but I'm going to get another german shepard and a few more guns...




I am death against Illegal's crossing our Borders, and making themselves at Home in our Country!!!! at our expenses. This is our Country not theirs. Hurry UP!!! President Trump do your job and build our Wall, now!!!now!!! Stop Lolly Gagging, and get on your Job.Our lives and safety is at stake.

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Oct 21, 2018 18:37:49   #
Sicilianthing
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mexico border
By Eric London
21, October 2018

Donald Trump threatened Thursday to deploy the US military to close the US-Mexico border as a caravan of 4,000 immigrants fleeing Honduras in search of asylum approached the southern border of Mexico.

Calling the caravan an “onslaught” and an “assault,” Trump demanded that Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico all use armed force to stop the immigrants, tweeting:

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Deploying the armed forces to “seal the border” poses the threat of mass arrests, mass detention and extensive military checkpoints. It raises the specter of martial law and violates the democratic principle of posse comitatus, which bars the military from carrying out law enforcement activities within the country.

The immigrants marching north have maintained a hopeful and defiant spirit despite Trump’s threats. The caravan, which is made up of people who would normally make their way separately toward the US border, has been transformed into a political demonstration whose daily movements are followed closely by all the region’s major media outlets, along with the US Spanish-language network Univision.

As the marchers, many of them mothers with young children, moved northwest en route to the United States, they chanted and waved Honduran flags and greeted onlookers, who delivered donations of food and water.

These Honduran workers and impoverished peasants are fleeing a country ravished by imperialist exploitation and US-backed death squads and thrown into disarray by the 2009 coup that overthrew the country’s elected president Manuel Zelaya—an international crime overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In press interviews, the immigrants are gaining widespread popularity for denouncing the inequality, corruption and state violence that plague all of Central America.

The Mexican government has responded to Trump’s orders by preparing to carry out the dirty work of his administration’s crackdown on immigrants, including physical repression. Yesterday, black airplanes carrying several hundred Mexican federal police armed with riot gear arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border. Helicopters were also deployed to monitor the border region.

The Mexican consulate in Guatemala published a statement saying immigrants who wish to enter Mexico must have “travel documents and a visa” and that those who “enter into the country in an irregular manner” will be returned “to their country of origin, in a secure and orderly manner.”

US discussions with the Mexican government have involved both the administration of outgoing president Enrique Peña Nieto and representatives of incoming president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won election in July and will take office December 1. Trump dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Mexico City yesterday for meetings today with Peña Nieto, sitting Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray, and his soon-to-be replacement Marcelo Ebard.

The threat to deploy the military to the border was greeted with outrage across Mexico, a country that lost half its territory to US invasion in the Mexican-American war of 1844-45 and was invaded by the US on multiple occasions during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-20.

Lopez Obrador’s incoming foreign secretary, Ebard, cynically dismissed Trump’s threat in a radio interview on Radio Centro: “The position of President Trump is the same he has always put forward, I don’t see this as anything surprising, it would surprise me if he took a different position.”

The Trump administration and the Republican Party have elevated the false “threat” posed by the caravan to whip up fascistic xenophobic sentiment in the run-up to the midterm elections, less than three weeks away. Trump also tweeted yesterday:

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S...”

Trump and his administration are working toward the reimplementation of a version of the family separation policy enacted last spring, when thousands of immigrant children were taken from their parents and loved ones. As Trump said during his recent “60 Minutes” interview, “When you allow the parents to stay together, OK, when you allow that, then what happens is people are gonna pour into our country.”

Officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have issued hysterical statements calling for the re-establishment of family separation.

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS, demanded politicians “close catch-and-release loopholes in the law that would allow authorities to detain and remove family units safely and expeditiously… However, the removal of actual family units, or those posing as family units, has been made virtually impossible by congressional inaction—which will most likely result in record numbers of families arriving illegally in the United States this year.”

The Democratic Party has instructed its candidates to ignore or to publicly support Trump’s attack on immigrants in the run-up to the elections.

At a recent speaking engagement in Austin, Texas, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told candidates not to focus on Trump’s attacks on immigrants, explaining that calling for “shutting down ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]” merely “serves the president’s purpose.” Pelosi said she tells Democratic candidates that focusing on the issue would “waste energy.”

At an event at Harvard University this week, Pelosi proclaimed the Democratic Party’s desire to “find common ground” with Trump, explaining that Democrats “have to always try” to find ways to work with Trump. She said she thought Trump’s proposal to construct a border wall between the US and Mexico would be “expensive” and “ineffective” at stopping immigrants. She portrayed Trump’s desire to build a wall as a gender issue, explaining it was merely a “manhood issue for the president.”

Trump’s threats and the willingness of the Democratic Party to help him conduct the crackdown on immigrants underscore the sharp threats posed to the working class, immigrant and nonimmigrant alike. The ruling class is preparing to respond to the class struggle in the same way that it is moving against immigrants: with repressive violence and martial law.

http://www.wsws.org



If that is what President Trump wants in order to save our Country and it's Borders, that's great to me.!!! Full Speed Ahead!!! President. If our Military can do a better job then our Border Patrols can, then Send them in and kick our Border Patrol out. Our Military can do the Job!!!! ' Be a Gopher and Go for it." Now what do Y'all fell and think?
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mex... (show quote)


>>>>

Trump needs to shut up stop threatening and just do it Flat OUT !

Bring my troops home from Afshitstan and the other 76proxy wars and put them on the 2,000 mile Mexican Scumbag Disaster line.

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Oct 21, 2018 18:42:54   #
EmilyD
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
I am death against Illegal's crossing our Borders, and making themselves at Home in our Country!!!! at our expenses. This is our Country not theirs. Hurry UP!!! President Trump do your job and build our Wall, now!!!now!!! Stop Lolly Gagging, and get on your Job.Our lives and safety is at stake.

Oh..I misunderstood! My apologies (I was on another thread with the same type of topic and same forum format as OPP and thought I was responding to them...sorry)

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Oct 21, 2018 18:53:19   #
Sicilianthing
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
I am death against Illegal's crossing our Borders, and making themselves at Home in our Country!!!! at our expenses. This is our Country not theirs. Hurry UP!!! President Trump do your job and build our Wall, now!!!now!!! Stop Lolly Gagging, and get on your Job.Our lives and safety is at stake.


>>>>

Trump is a pussy if he doesn’t put his Mouth where the Money needs to be !

Lock it down or else Militias will... then it gets ugly.

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Oct 21, 2018 18:56:53   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mexico border
By Eric London
21, October 2018

Donald Trump threatened Thursday to deploy the US military to close the US-Mexico border as a caravan of 4,000 immigrants fleeing Honduras in search of asylum approached the southern border of Mexico.

Calling the caravan an “onslaught” and an “assault,” Trump demanded that Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico all use armed force to stop the immigrants, tweeting:

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Deploying the armed forces to “seal the border” poses the threat of mass arrests, mass detention and extensive military checkpoints. It raises the specter of martial law and violates the democratic principle of posse comitatus, which bars the military from carrying out law enforcement activities within the country.

The immigrants marching north have maintained a hopeful and defiant spirit despite Trump’s threats. The caravan, which is made up of people who would normally make their way separately toward the US border, has been transformed into a political demonstration whose daily movements are followed closely by all the region’s major media outlets, along with the US Spanish-language network Univision.

As the marchers, many of them mothers with young children, moved northwest en route to the United States, they chanted and waved Honduran flags and greeted onlookers, who delivered donations of food and water.

These Honduran workers and impoverished peasants are fleeing a country ravished by imperialist exploitation and US-backed death squads and thrown into disarray by the 2009 coup that overthrew the country’s elected president Manuel Zelaya—an international crime overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In press interviews, the immigrants are gaining widespread popularity for denouncing the inequality, corruption and state violence that plague all of Central America.

The Mexican government has responded to Trump’s orders by preparing to carry out the dirty work of his administration’s crackdown on immigrants, including physical repression. Yesterday, black airplanes carrying several hundred Mexican federal police armed with riot gear arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border. Helicopters were also deployed to monitor the border region.

The Mexican consulate in Guatemala published a statement saying immigrants who wish to enter Mexico must have “travel documents and a visa” and that those who “enter into the country in an irregular manner” will be returned “to their country of origin, in a secure and orderly manner.”

US discussions with the Mexican government have involved both the administration of outgoing president Enrique Peña Nieto and representatives of incoming president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won election in July and will take office December 1. Trump dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Mexico City yesterday for meetings today with Peña Nieto, sitting Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray, and his soon-to-be replacement Marcelo Ebard.

The threat to deploy the military to the border was greeted with outrage across Mexico, a country that lost half its territory to US invasion in the Mexican-American war of 1844-45 and was invaded by the US on multiple occasions during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-20.

Lopez Obrador’s incoming foreign secretary, Ebard, cynically dismissed Trump’s threat in a radio interview on Radio Centro: “The position of President Trump is the same he has always put forward, I don’t see this as anything surprising, it would surprise me if he took a different position.”

The Trump administration and the Republican Party have elevated the false “threat” posed by the caravan to whip up fascistic xenophobic sentiment in the run-up to the midterm elections, less than three weeks away. Trump also tweeted yesterday:

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S...”

Trump and his administration are working toward the reimplementation of a version of the family separation policy enacted last spring, when thousands of immigrant children were taken from their parents and loved ones. As Trump said during his recent “60 Minutes” interview, “When you allow the parents to stay together, OK, when you allow that, then what happens is people are gonna pour into our country.”

Officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have issued hysterical statements calling for the re-establishment of family separation.

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS, demanded politicians “close catch-and-release loopholes in the law that would allow authorities to detain and remove family units safely and expeditiously… However, the removal of actual family units, or those posing as family units, has been made virtually impossible by congressional inaction—which will most likely result in record numbers of families arriving illegally in the United States this year.”

The Democratic Party has instructed its candidates to ignore or to publicly support Trump’s attack on immigrants in the run-up to the elections.

At a recent speaking engagement in Austin, Texas, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told candidates not to focus on Trump’s attacks on immigrants, explaining that calling for “shutting down ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]” merely “serves the president’s purpose.” Pelosi said she tells Democratic candidates that focusing on the issue would “waste energy.”

At an event at Harvard University this week, Pelosi proclaimed the Democratic Party’s desire to “find common ground” with Trump, explaining that Democrats “have to always try” to find ways to work with Trump. She said she thought Trump’s proposal to construct a border wall between the US and Mexico would be “expensive” and “ineffective” at stopping immigrants. She portrayed Trump’s desire to build a wall as a gender issue, explaining it was merely a “manhood issue for the president.”

Trump’s threats and the willingness of the Democratic Party to help him conduct the crackdown on immigrants underscore the sharp threats posed to the working class, immigrant and nonimmigrant alike. The ruling class is preparing to respond to the class struggle in the same way that it is moving against immigrants: with repressive violence and martial law.

http://www.wsws.org



If that is what President Trump wants in order to save our Country and it's Borders, that's great to me.!!! Full Speed Ahead!!! President. If our Military can do a better job then our Border Patrols can, then Send them in and kick our Border Patrol out. Our Military can do the Job!!!! ' Be a Gopher and Go for it." Now what do Y'all fell and think?
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Border Patrol is doing fine except they have limited manpower and are restricted by the various stupid laws giving invaders rights. The Military is not hampered by this, these people are enemy combatants whether they enter into combat or not and they will be treated as such. Mexico's opinion isn't
worth spit; if these people are not stopped and sent back where they came from we will have endless hordes entering our nation. We cannot support all of these people and there is no surplus of work for them to support themselves.

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Oct 21, 2018 19:07:42   #
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pafret wrote:
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mexico border
By Eric London
21, October 2018

Donald Trump threatened Thursday to deploy the US military to close the US-Mexico border as a caravan of 4,000 immigrants fleeing Honduras in search of asylum approached the southern border of Mexico.

Calling the caravan an “onslaught” and an “assault,” Trump demanded that Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico all use armed force to stop the immigrants, tweeting:

“In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Deploying the armed forces to “seal the border” poses the threat of mass arrests, mass detention and extensive military checkpoints. It raises the specter of martial law and violates the democratic principle of posse comitatus, which bars the military from carrying out law enforcement activities within the country.

The immigrants marching north have maintained a hopeful and defiant spirit despite Trump’s threats. The caravan, which is made up of people who would normally make their way separately toward the US border, has been transformed into a political demonstration whose daily movements are followed closely by all the region’s major media outlets, along with the US Spanish-language network Univision.

As the marchers, many of them mothers with young children, moved northwest en route to the United States, they chanted and waved Honduran flags and greeted onlookers, who delivered donations of food and water.

These Honduran workers and impoverished peasants are fleeing a country ravished by imperialist exploitation and US-backed death squads and thrown into disarray by the 2009 coup that overthrew the country’s elected president Manuel Zelaya—an international crime overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In press interviews, the immigrants are gaining widespread popularity for denouncing the inequality, corruption and state violence that plague all of Central America.

The Mexican government has responded to Trump’s orders by preparing to carry out the dirty work of his administration’s crackdown on immigrants, including physical repression. Yesterday, black airplanes carrying several hundred Mexican federal police armed with riot gear arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border. Helicopters were also deployed to monitor the border region.

The Mexican consulate in Guatemala published a statement saying immigrants who wish to enter Mexico must have “travel documents and a visa” and that those who “enter into the country in an irregular manner” will be returned “to their country of origin, in a secure and orderly manner.”

US discussions with the Mexican government have involved both the administration of outgoing president Enrique Peña Nieto and representatives of incoming president Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who won election in July and will take office December 1. Trump dispatched Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Mexico City yesterday for meetings today with Peña Nieto, sitting Foreign Secretary Luis Videgaray, and his soon-to-be replacement Marcelo Ebard.

The threat to deploy the military to the border was greeted with outrage across Mexico, a country that lost half its territory to US invasion in the Mexican-American war of 1844-45 and was invaded by the US on multiple occasions during the Mexican Revolution of 1910-20.

Lopez Obrador’s incoming foreign secretary, Ebard, cynically dismissed Trump’s threat in a radio interview on Radio Centro: “The position of President Trump is the same he has always put forward, I don’t see this as anything surprising, it would surprise me if he took a different position.”

The Trump administration and the Republican Party have elevated the false “threat” posed by the caravan to whip up fascistic xenophobic sentiment in the run-up to the midterm elections, less than three weeks away. Trump also tweeted yesterday:

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S...”

Trump and his administration are working toward the reimplementation of a version of the family separation policy enacted last spring, when thousands of immigrant children were taken from their parents and loved ones. As Trump said during his recent “60 Minutes” interview, “When you allow the parents to stay together, OK, when you allow that, then what happens is people are gonna pour into our country.”

Officials within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have issued hysterical statements calling for the re-establishment of family separation.

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS, demanded politicians “close catch-and-release loopholes in the law that would allow authorities to detain and remove family units safely and expeditiously… However, the removal of actual family units, or those posing as family units, has been made virtually impossible by congressional inaction—which will most likely result in record numbers of families arriving illegally in the United States this year.”

The Democratic Party has instructed its candidates to ignore or to publicly support Trump’s attack on immigrants in the run-up to the elections.

At a recent speaking engagement in Austin, Texas, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told candidates not to focus on Trump’s attacks on immigrants, explaining that calling for “shutting down ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement]” merely “serves the president’s purpose.” Pelosi said she tells Democratic candidates that focusing on the issue would “waste energy.”

At an event at Harvard University this week, Pelosi proclaimed the Democratic Party’s desire to “find common ground” with Trump, explaining that Democrats “have to always try” to find ways to work with Trump. She said she thought Trump’s proposal to construct a border wall between the US and Mexico would be “expensive” and “ineffective” at stopping immigrants. She portrayed Trump’s desire to build a wall as a gender issue, explaining it was merely a “manhood issue for the president.”

Trump’s threats and the willingness of the Democratic Party to help him conduct the crackdown on immigrants underscore the sharp threats posed to the working class, immigrant and nonimmigrant alike. The ruling class is preparing to respond to the class struggle in the same way that it is moving against immigrants: with repressive violence and martial law.

http://www.wsws.org



If that is what President Trump wants in order to save our Country and it's Borders, that's great to me.!!! Full Speed Ahead!!! President. If our Military can do a better job then our Border Patrols can, then Send them in and kick our Border Patrol out. Our Military can do the Job!!!! ' Be a Gopher and Go for it." Now what do Y'all fell and think?
Trump threatens to deploy military to close US-Mex... (show quote)


Border Patrol is doing fine except they have limited manpower and are restricted by the various stupid laws giving invaders rights. The Military is not hampered by this, these people are enemy combatants whether they enter into combat or not and they will be treated as such. Mexico's opinion isn't
worth spit; if these people are not stopped and sent back where they came from we will have endless hordes entering our nation. We cannot support all of these people and there is no surplus of work for them to support themselves.
quote=HonorNCourage57 Trump threatens to deploy m... (show quote)


>>>>

Border patrol is failing, overwhelmed, catching only about 1500 per day as thousands of other get through daily...

We know because we have eyes there.

Trump either Locks it down or we will put a Face to Militia at the line and things will get ugly,

It is the duty of Patriot Americans to stand their ground and defend their states:

We will come in Full Battle Rattle soon if Trump Fails to Act
We will come in Full Battle Rattle soon if Trump F...

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Oct 21, 2018 20:29:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
WOW,,,, much ado about a misdemeanor!!!

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Oct 21, 2018 21:21:57   #
Sicilianthing
 
permafrost wrote:
WOW,,,, much ado about a misdemeanor!!!


>>>>

Huh ?

Huh? What do you say ?
Huh? What do you say ?...

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Oct 21, 2018 21:27:19   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
permafrost wrote:
WOW,,,, much ado about a misdemeanor!!!


Mexico doesn't think illegal border crossings are misdemeanors. It took the Secretary of State's intercession to get the Mexicans to stop beating and torturing American Marine Sgt Andrew Tahmooressi in prison and to provide him with food and water.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/us/mexico-us-marine-detained/index.html

Mexicans specialize in inhumane treatment of prisoners, particularly Gringos who cross their border illegally.

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Oct 21, 2018 21:29:31   #
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pafret wrote:
Mexico doesn't think illegal border crossings are misdemeanors. It took the Secretary of State's intercession to get the Mexicans to stop beating and torturing American Marine Sgt Andrew Tahmooressi in prison and to provide him with food and water.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/us/mexico-us-marine-detained/index.html

Mexicans specialize in inhumane treatment of prisoners, particularly Gringos who cross their border illegally.


>>>>

The Mexican Disaster next door is just that and it needs to be permanently separated from our Glory by a 2,000 mile WALL !

This WALL:



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Oct 22, 2018 04:27:37   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
I am death against Illegal's crossing our Borders, and making themselves at Home in our Country!!!! at our expenses. This is our Country not theirs. Hurry UP!!! President Trump do your job and build our Wall, now!!!now!!! Stop Lolly Gagging, and get on your Job.Our lives and safety is at stake.



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