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Oct 17, 2018 10:45:07   #
Liberty's Advocate Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Day 2: Elizabeth Warren's Ancestor Actually Helped Slaughter Indians, Report Says

By Cillian Zeal
October 16, 2018 at 5:55am

So, it's the day after Elizabeth Warren tried yet again to prove that she's at least a little bit Native American. How did that work?
Did the Cherokee Nation welcome her with open arms? No. Did President Trump give her a heartfelt apology? Did skeptical American voters finally nod their heads and say they were wrong this whole time?

Well, not quite. See, it turns out that Sen. Warren's Pocahontas moment was roughly as successful as Cory Booker's Spartacus moment, with the test proving she's anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th Native American. Assuming the upper range, that's a solid 0.09765625 percent. Way to prove 'em all wrong, Liz.

However, we now enter Day Two of Elizabeth Warren trying to convince us that she really did hear the wolf cry to the blue corn moon and that she plans to ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned at the first primary debate, and she'll demand an answer. As we laugh at her ability to repeatedly embarrass herself over this issue, let's also remind ourselves that one report claims Warren actually has as much Cherokee-killer as Cherokee in her lineage.

That piece of work was assembled by Michael Patrick Leahy for Breitbart News during Warren's 2012 senatorial campaign, where her decision to list herself as a minority during her time in academia drew criticism from Republican opponent Scott Brown.

The assumption was that Warren used it to get ahead in a university environment where certain voices were demanding that women of color be hired in greater numbers to diversify the faculty. Warren herself has given a number of reasons she decided to classify herself as Native American, but seems to have settled on the excuse that, as the Boston Globe put it, "many of the matriarchs of her family were dying and she began to feel that her family stories and history were becoming lost."

In 2012, Warren's explanation was that her great-great-great grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, was Cherokee. However, Leahy noted that Smith Crawford ''had no Cherokee heritage, was listed as 'white' in the Census of 1860, and was most likely half Swedish and half English, Scottish, or German, or some combination thereof."

However, if Smith Crawford somehow thought she was Cherokee, she was definitely one of the self-hating variety.

"But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren"s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross's Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee, the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837," Leahy wrote.

The Trail of Tears, the forced migration of the Cherokee people east of the Mississippi River to Oklahoma under the administration of Andrew Jackson, ended with over 4,000 men, women and children dead, according to the Cherokee Nation website.

And apparently, if we can even assume Warren is correct about her ancestry and that this report is accurate, one of the men who played a part in it married her "Cherokee" relative.

"Jonathan Crawford, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford's husband and apparently Ms. Warren's great-great-great grandfather, served in the East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia commanded by Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap from late 1835 to late 1836," Leahy wrote.

"While under Dunlap's command he was a member of Major William Lauderdale's Battalion, and Captain Richard E. Waterhouse's Company.

"These were the troops responsible for removing Cherokee families from homes they had lived in for generations in the three states that the Cherokee Nations had considered their homelands for centuries: Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee," he continued.

RELATED: After DNA Stunt Backfires, Warren Says Story of Her Distant Ancestor "Lifts Up" Natives

"While these involuntary home removals were not characterized by widespread violence, the newly displaced Cherokee mothers, fathers, and children found an oppressive and sometimes brutal welcome when they finally arrived at the hastily constructed containment areas. An estimated 4,000 Cherokees were warehoused in Ross's Landing stockades for months awaiting supplies and additional armed guards the Federal Government believed necessary to relocate them on foot to Oklahoma."

Crawford wasn't one of the men who helped bring the troops to Oklahoma but, given the end result of the effort - something all involved likely had some inkling of it - he was certainly implicated in the slaughter. Crawford also served in the Battalion of Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia during the Second Seminole War in 1837, a conflict that ended with even more dead Native Americans (as one might expect).

So the best-case scenario involves her having as much oppressor blood in her as oppressed. And as Leahy points out, that's not an incredibly likely scenario: "Neither O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Jonathan Crawford, nor any of their seven other children, apparently ever claimed that O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had Cherokee heritage."

"It is time for Ms. Warren to publicly acknowledge the truth of her ancestry," Leahy concluded his report six years ago.

"It is time for her to admit that she has no Native American heritage that she can prove; and it is time for her to acknowledge instead, that she is likely a direct descendant of a Tennessee Militiaman who apparently rounded up the ancestors of those who truly have Cherokee heritage, the first step in their forced removal from the Southeastern United States to Oklahoma over the long and tragic Trail of Tears."

So, what has she done instead? She hasn't admitted it. She hasn't even stayed quiet about it. It would have been much smarter if she left it alone and hoped most voters forgot about the whole thing. Nevertheless, she persisted.

Can't wait to see what Day Three is going to bring ...



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Oct 17, 2018 11:25:56   #
Lonewolf
 
A lot of full-blooded Indians did the same thing working as scots for the army

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Oct 17, 2018 11:28:00   #
Lonewolf
 
And she never claimed minority status not used it to gain employment your pedeling fake news



Liberty's Advocate wrote:
Day 2: Elizabeth Warren's Ancestor Actually Helped Slaughter Indians, Report Says

By Cillian Zeal
October 16, 2018 at 5:55am

So, it's the day after Elizabeth Warren tried yet again to prove that she's at least a little bit Native American. How did that work?
Did the Cherokee Nation welcome her with open arms? No. Did President Trump give her a heartfelt apology? Did skeptical American voters finally nod their heads and say they were wrong this whole time?

Well, not quite. See, it turns out that Sen. Warren's Pocahontas moment was roughly as successful as Cory Booker's Spartacus moment, with the test proving she's anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th Native American. Assuming the upper range, that's a solid 0.09765625 percent. Way to prove 'em all wrong, Liz.

However, we now enter Day Two of Elizabeth Warren trying to convince us that she really did hear the wolf cry to the blue corn moon and that she plans to ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned at the first primary debate, and she'll demand an answer. As we laugh at her ability to repeatedly embarrass herself over this issue, let's also remind ourselves that one report claims Warren actually has as much Cherokee-killer as Cherokee in her lineage.

That piece of work was assembled by Michael Patrick Leahy for Breitbart News during Warren's 2012 senatorial campaign, where her decision to list herself as a minority during her time in academia drew criticism from Republican opponent Scott Brown.

The assumption was that Warren used it to get ahead in a university environment where certain voices were demanding that women of color be hired in greater numbers to diversify the faculty. Warren herself has given a number of reasons she decided to classify herself as Native American, but seems to have settled on the excuse that, as the Boston Globe put it, "many of the matriarchs of her family were dying and she began to feel that her family stories and history were becoming lost."

In 2012, Warren's explanation was that her great-great-great grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, was Cherokee. However, Leahy noted that Smith Crawford ''had no Cherokee heritage, was listed as 'white' in the Census of 1860, and was most likely half Swedish and half English, Scottish, or German, or some combination thereof."

However, if Smith Crawford somehow thought she was Cherokee, she was definitely one of the self-hating variety.

"But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren"s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross's Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee, the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837," Leahy wrote.

The Trail of Tears, the forced migration of the Cherokee people east of the Mississippi River to Oklahoma under the administration of Andrew Jackson, ended with over 4,000 men, women and children dead, according to the Cherokee Nation website.

And apparently, if we can even assume Warren is correct about her ancestry and that this report is accurate, one of the men who played a part in it married her "Cherokee" relative.

"Jonathan Crawford, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford's husband and apparently Ms. Warren's great-great-great grandfather, served in the East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia commanded by Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap from late 1835 to late 1836," Leahy wrote.

"While under Dunlap's command he was a member of Major William Lauderdale's Battalion, and Captain Richard E. Waterhouse's Company.

"These were the troops responsible for removing Cherokee families from homes they had lived in for generations in the three states that the Cherokee Nations had considered their homelands for centuries: Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee," he continued.

RELATED: After DNA Stunt Backfires, Warren Says Story of Her Distant Ancestor "Lifts Up" Natives

"While these involuntary home removals were not characterized by widespread violence, the newly displaced Cherokee mothers, fathers, and children found an oppressive and sometimes brutal welcome when they finally arrived at the hastily constructed containment areas. An estimated 4,000 Cherokees were warehoused in Ross's Landing stockades for months awaiting supplies and additional armed guards the Federal Government believed necessary to relocate them on foot to Oklahoma."

Crawford wasn't one of the men who helped bring the troops to Oklahoma but, given the end result of the effort - something all involved likely had some inkling of it - he was certainly implicated in the slaughter. Crawford also served in the Battalion of Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia during the Second Seminole War in 1837, a conflict that ended with even more dead Native Americans (as one might expect).

So the best-case scenario involves her having as much oppressor blood in her as oppressed. And as Leahy points out, that's not an incredibly likely scenario: "Neither O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Jonathan Crawford, nor any of their seven other children, apparently ever claimed that O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had Cherokee heritage."

"It is time for Ms. Warren to publicly acknowledge the truth of her ancestry," Leahy concluded his report six years ago.

"It is time for her to admit that she has no Native American heritage that she can prove; and it is time for her to acknowledge instead, that she is likely a direct descendant of a Tennessee Militiaman who apparently rounded up the ancestors of those who truly have Cherokee heritage, the first step in their forced removal from the Southeastern United States to Oklahoma over the long and tragic Trail of Tears."

So, what has she done instead? She hasn't admitted it. She hasn't even stayed quiet about it. It would have been much smarter if she left it alone and hoped most voters forgot about the whole thing. Nevertheless, she persisted.

Can't wait to see what Day Three is going to bring ...
Day 2: Elizabeth Warren's Ancestor Actually Helped... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2018 11:37:39   #
Liberty's Advocate Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
A lot of full-blooded Indians did the same thing working as scots for the army


You likely meant "scouts for the army." Perhaps they were early Leftists getting some OJT in treason against their nation.



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Oct 17, 2018 11:43:34   #
Liberty's Advocate Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
And she never claimed minority status not used it to gain employment your pedeling fake news


Gee ... MY "fake news" sources say she used it to get preferential treatment when applying to Harvard for a faculty position as well as to another institution of 'higher learning', Penn University. Your "fake news" sources apparently keep that information from you.

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Oct 17, 2018 11:54:47   #
Lonewolf
 
Harvard says different

Liberty's Advocate wrote:
Gee ... MY "fake news" sources say she used it to get preferential treatment when applying to Harvard for a faculty position as well as to another institution of 'higher learning', Penn University. Your "fake news" sources apparently keep that information from you.

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Oct 17, 2018 12:01:16   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
And she never claimed minority status not used it to gain employment your pedeling fake news
Wrong again Lonewolf.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7003/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-elizabeth-aaron-bandler
"Warren didn't claim to be a Native American until her 30s and may have only listed it to score a job. At that point, she was listed under the minority section of a law teachers for-hire directory. Harvard later promoted her Native American heritage."

And she admitted it herself
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/warren-concedes-she-told-harvard-and-penn-about-native-american-ancestry/
"As I have confirmed before, I let people know about my Native American heritage in a national directory of law school personnel," Warren said in the statement. "At some point after I was hired by them, I also provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard. My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I'm proud of it and I have been open about it."

Now did she tell them that based on her ancestry she should receive any favors? Probably not, but you can't tell me that the same woman who bragged that she was the first nursing mother to ever take the bar exam wasn't playing the Native American card without expecting it would affect how she was treated.

And as for your "some Indians were scouts for the military" big whoop - none of them were trying to pass themselves off as pale faces.



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Oct 17, 2018 12:03:29   #
Lonewolf
 
He still owes her a million if he has it

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Oct 17, 2018 12:04:35   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Liberty's Advocate wrote:
Day 2: Elizabeth Warren's Ancestor Actually Helped Slaughter Indians, Report Says

By Cillian Zeal
October 16, 2018 at 5:55am

So, it's the day after Elizabeth Warren tried yet again to prove that she's at least a little bit Native American. How did that work?
Did the Cherokee Nation welcome her with open arms? No. Did President Trump give her a heartfelt apology? Did skeptical American voters finally nod their heads and say they were wrong this whole time?

Well, not quite. See, it turns out that Sen. Warren's Pocahontas moment was roughly as successful as Cory Booker's Spartacus moment, with the test proving she's anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th Native American. Assuming the upper range, that's a solid 0.09765625 percent. Way to prove 'em all wrong, Liz.

However, we now enter Day Two of Elizabeth Warren trying to convince us that she really did hear the wolf cry to the blue corn moon and that she plans to ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned at the first primary debate, and she'll demand an answer. As we laugh at her ability to repeatedly embarrass herself over this issue, let's also remind ourselves that one report claims Warren actually has as much Cherokee-killer as Cherokee in her lineage.

That piece of work was assembled by Michael Patrick Leahy for Breitbart News during Warren's 2012 senatorial campaign, where her decision to list herself as a minority during her time in academia drew criticism from Republican opponent Scott Brown.

The assumption was that Warren used it to get ahead in a university environment where certain voices were demanding that women of color be hired in greater numbers to diversify the faculty. Warren herself has given a number of reasons she decided to classify herself as Native American, but seems to have settled on the excuse that, as the Boston Globe put it, "many of the matriarchs of her family were dying and she began to feel that her family stories and history were becoming lost."

In 2012, Warren's explanation was that her great-great-great grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, was Cherokee. However, Leahy noted that Smith Crawford ''had no Cherokee heritage, was listed as 'white' in the Census of 1860, and was most likely half Swedish and half English, Scottish, or German, or some combination thereof."

However, if Smith Crawford somehow thought she was Cherokee, she was definitely one of the self-hating variety.

"But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren"s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross's Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee, the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837," Leahy wrote.

The Trail of Tears, the forced migration of the Cherokee people east of the Mississippi River to Oklahoma under the administration of Andrew Jackson, ended with over 4,000 men, women and children dead, according to the Cherokee Nation website.

And apparently, if we can even assume Warren is correct about her ancestry and that this report is accurate, one of the men who played a part in it married her "Cherokee" relative.

"Jonathan Crawford, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford's husband and apparently Ms. Warren's great-great-great grandfather, served in the East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia commanded by Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap from late 1835 to late 1836," Leahy wrote.

"While under Dunlap's command he was a member of Major William Lauderdale's Battalion, and Captain Richard E. Waterhouse's Company.

"These were the troops responsible for removing Cherokee families from homes they had lived in for generations in the three states that the Cherokee Nations had considered their homelands for centuries: Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee," he continued.

RELATED: After DNA Stunt Backfires, Warren Says Story of Her Distant Ancestor "Lifts Up" Natives

"While these involuntary home removals were not characterized by widespread violence, the newly displaced Cherokee mothers, fathers, and children found an oppressive and sometimes brutal welcome when they finally arrived at the hastily constructed containment areas. An estimated 4,000 Cherokees were warehoused in Ross's Landing stockades for months awaiting supplies and additional armed guards the Federal Government believed necessary to relocate them on foot to Oklahoma."

Crawford wasn't one of the men who helped bring the troops to Oklahoma but, given the end result of the effort - something all involved likely had some inkling of it - he was certainly implicated in the slaughter. Crawford also served in the Battalion of Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia during the Second Seminole War in 1837, a conflict that ended with even more dead Native Americans (as one might expect).

So the best-case scenario involves her having as much oppressor blood in her as oppressed. And as Leahy points out, that's not an incredibly likely scenario: "Neither O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Jonathan Crawford, nor any of their seven other children, apparently ever claimed that O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had Cherokee heritage."

"It is time for Ms. Warren to publicly acknowledge the truth of her ancestry," Leahy concluded his report six years ago.

"It is time for her to admit that she has no Native American heritage that she can prove; and it is time for her to acknowledge instead, that she is likely a direct descendant of a Tennessee Militiaman who apparently rounded up the ancestors of those who truly have Cherokee heritage, the first step in their forced removal from the Southeastern United States to Oklahoma over the long and tragic Trail of Tears."

So, what has she done instead? She hasn't admitted it. She hasn't even stayed quiet about it. It would have been much smarter if she left it alone and hoped most voters forgot about the whole thing. Nevertheless, she persisted.

Can't wait to see what Day Three is going to bring ...
Day 2: Elizabeth Warren's Ancestor Actually Helped... (show quote)
Nicely done. Joe Biden and Bernie are tickled to death that Liz has sunk her own 2020 campaign. She'll continue to run (because $$$$$) but she's got no chance of seriously challenging the top Dems, much less President Trump.

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Oct 17, 2018 12:06:05   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
A lot of full-blooded Indians did the same thing working as scots for the army


Do you mean "scout?"

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Oct 17, 2018 12:07:34   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Wrong again Lonewolf.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7003/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-elizabeth-aaron-bandler
"Warren didn't claim to be a Native American until her 30s and may have only listed it to score a job. At that point, she was listed under the minority section of a law teachers for-hire directory. Harvard later promoted her Native American heritage."

And she admitted it herself
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/warren-concedes-she-told-harvard-and-penn-about-native-american-ancestry/
"As I have confirmed before, I let people know about my Native American heritage in a national directory of law school personnel," Warren said in the statement. "At some point after I was hired by them, I also provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard. My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I'm proud of it and I have been open about it."

Now did she tell them that based on her ancestry she should receive any favors? Probably not, but you can't tell me that the same woman who bragged that she was the first nursing mother to ever take the bar exam wasn't playing the Native American card without expecting it would affect how she was treated.

And as for your "some Indians were scouts for the military" big whoop - none of them were trying to pass themselves off as pale faces.
Wrong again Lonewolf. br br https://www.dailywi... (show quote)


She looks like just another butt-ugly WASP to me.

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Oct 17, 2018 12:12:25   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
He still owes her a million if he has it
Someone said yesterday, that he should pay her and that 1/1024 of $1 million = $976.57. And that's giving her the benefit of the doubt, since no actual Native American DNA was compared in the test - rather it was DNA from Mexican, Peruvian, and Colombian samples.

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Oct 17, 2018 12:26:43   #
EmilyD
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Someone said yesterday, that he should pay her and that 1/1024 of $1 million = $976.57. And that's giving her the benefit of the doubt, since no actual Native American DNA was compared in the test - rather it was DNA from Mexican, Peruvian, and Colombian samples.

Lonewolf and all the others that are saying Trump owes Warren the million dollars are wrong. Trump's exact words were: "I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian." Warren's own DNA test proves that she is not an Indian. Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr. says Warren is not a Cherokee Indian and no other tribe claims her as part of their nation. She does not qualify to be an Indian. If anything, Warren owes Trump the million dollars.

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Oct 17, 2018 12:30:05   #
Liberty's Advocate Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
He still owes her a million if he has it


He promised to pay $1 Million to her favorite charity ... if she would take HIS DNA test (a test supplied and monitored by him) and prove she was native American. In spite of the fact her 'favorite charity' appears to be the "Elizabeth Warren Presidential Campaign" which violates in every way the spirit of the wager, she has quantitatively LESS DNA evidence of Native American lineage than the Cherokee Nation, for example, would accept as definitive evidence for tribal membership. The Cherokee Nation to which she specifically and falsely claimed being related, loudly rejected her claim yesterday.

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Oct 17, 2018 12:30:28   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
Lonewolf and all the others that are saying Trump owes Warren the million dollars are wrong. Trump's exact words were: "I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian." Warren's own DNA test proves that she is not an Indian. Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr. says Warren is not a Cherokee Indian and no other tribe claims her as part of their nation. She does not qualify to be an Indian. If anything, Warren owes Trump the million dollars.
Lonewolf and all the others that are saying Trump ... (show quote)
You are quite right, but you should know you that facts are kryptonite to the left. They never let the truth deter them from their efforts to unseat a constitutionally elected President.

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