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Apr 21, 2014 12:37:34   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
Solar panels work. However, they have been priced out of most Americans budgets.

Trains are better than rush hour traffic but once again in my state the schedules make it impossible for working people to utilize them.

As to Patty's so called agenda, I appreciate her posts. I am capable of thinking for myself. I never pay attention to our corporate owned media. I have my own sources. It is interesting to read other's opinions and if you are not careful you just might learn something.

Keep posting Patty some of us appreciate your efforts.

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Apr 21, 2014 12:43:27   #
Patty
 
Thanks She Wolf.
Jonnie doesn't bother me. He has given me complete control of his every waking thought. I think he is one of those guys who likes to be dominated. Kind of creepy but harmless.

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Apr 21, 2014 12:49:52   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Patty wrote:
Thanks She Wolf.
Jonnie doesn't bother me. He has given me complete control of his every waking thought. I think he is one of those guys who likes to be dominated. Kind of creepy but harmless.



It appears someone is obsessed with dominatrix status as well as Russia's Putin domination of world geopoltics. Creepy and not harmless. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

:XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Apr 21, 2014 12:55:09   #
Patty
 
jonnie perhaps you have no shame but I will copy your posts page from now on to every stalking post you follow me on. That way everyone can see the extent of your mental illness.
"Patty wrote:
Thanks She Wolf.
Jonnie doesn't bother me. He has given me complete control of his every waking thought. I think he is one of those guys who likes to be dominated. Kind of creepy but harmless.

It appears someone is obsessed with dominatrix status as well as Russia's Putin domination of world geopoltics. Creepy and not harmless.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:45:00
Patty wrote:
How does it feel to have me in complete control of your every waking thought?

Another Alinskyism troll response? You know you could ignore me except apparently you are paid by number of posts...or at least that's what you keep Alinskyizing about my postings.
But it appears I'm a small time "paid operative" compared to Patzers. 2 subjects & 2500 postings in 6/7 MONTHS vs. 260+ subjects & 3000 postings in 6/7 WEEKS. Wowzers.
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:35:57
This catalog appears to be mostly a record of Patty Alinskism troll and deflection responses to my pointing out the Russian propaganda op involved in Patty postings.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:29:48
The record appears to be mostly Patty Alinskyisms in reply to my pointing out the Russian propaganda operation involved.
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:25:33

Patty wrote:
Anything for you to defend your gullibility. What a fool they made of you my tool.
What a slam. I'm so devastated.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:23:48
Patty wrote:
"We" as in LA and I. Try to keep up. I would miss you if you didn't keep bumping my posts back up to the front of the line.
What a tool.
What a slam. I'm devastated.
Main -> Sen. Corker: We’re Going to Lose East Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:21:14
Patty wrote:
jonnie explain to me why Russia sent in peace keepers in Kosovo when the Serbs attacked them over their referendum? The serbs killed the peace keepers and Russian Kosovo citizens so he sent in troops who made the Serbs give Kosovo their independents. Please explain to me why Putin who had complete control of the two areas did he warn Serbia that if they attacked Kosovo again he would be back. He left Kosovo as an independent country.
How do you explain that and continue to spout that Russia is trying to land grab. You are either stupid or blind. Those are the only two options you have.
That is quite a Russian twist on the NATO operation that freed Kosovo from Serbia in the Yugoslavia breakup. Pure and simple fabricated Russian version of events regarding Kosovo.
Would you care to enlighten us about the source of this Russian version of Kosovo history? hmmmm??
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:12:39

Patty wrote:
Let me help you out since you don't seem to know when you have been made a fool of.
Check out Putin's "confession" about the "polite armed men in green"
Note his sarcasm and the smirk on his face.
This is what your "credible" MSM has twisted into a confession and made you look like a complete fool. Watch the video and hide your empty head in shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ikb6roqMg&feature=player_embedded
Anything to defend your dear leader Putin. Smirk smirk smirk.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:10:12

Patty wrote:
We are talking about wealth protection. Something you don't have to worry about.


"We" is Putin Patty attempting to undermine the American economy in the interests of Putin's Russia. That's what I'm worried about. The 250+ subject postings in 6/7 weeks have 3 constant themes--US as evil world hegemon, Ukraine as US aggression, and the doom of the dollar & IMF vs. the rising of alternate world currency (with the banking propaganda lines as side part in the hegemony and world reserve currency propaganda lines).

250+ subject postings and 3000 posts in 6/7 weeks anti-America pro-Putin fascist Russia...5 or 6 subjects a day, 60 some postings a day...day after day since Mar. 4, 2014!!
Main -> Sen. Corker: We’re Going to Lose East Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:56:19

Patty wrote:
Theres that ugly head of your illness popping up again. Having a fact disability must be hard for you to live with.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phoneca...
So, Putin Patty can't answer to the "re-sovereinization" Russian & its satellites issue?? Only another Alinskyism troll deflection from neo-Nazi Putin Patty?! Propaganda Patty's credibility is faaaading.
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:46:33
And Putin Patty has lost credibility by waiting too long to admit that Putin fessed up.

Moreover, the latest Patty post refers to the US Ukraine loan guarantee when the subject was Russia's reneging on its loan. Either confusion or reflexive deflection or both.

One wonders if Putin Patty will ever fess up regarding the Putin propaganda op on OPP?
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:33:47

LAwrence wrote:
If your bank is FDIC insured then the government owns it and can at any time steal your money.

Well, I guess according to your and Putin Patty's poot about the banks, we'd better all take our FDIC-subject-to-taking Fed Reserve worthless dollars out of the deposit insured banks and stuff them in a mattress or buy a bar of gold. I personally will miss the convenience of paying my bills by automatic bank payments, but I suppose I can pull a few worthless Fed Reserve notes from the mattress or shave off a bit from the gold bar & drive over to hand the worthless FR bills or gold shavings over to pay my creditor bills.
You people are full of poot about banking and a Fed Reserve elitist plot of some 100 years duration. Why don't you scoop your bank poot over to Pooty Putin's Russia where that sort of propaganda originates?
Main -> Sen. Corker: We’re Going to Lose East Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:14:57

Patty wrote:
Why is it that Washington believes Ukraine belongs to them?
The real question is, why is it that Russia believes Ukraine, Tajikistan, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, etc. belongs to them!!

Ukraine has a right to be a sovereign nation, NOT RE-SOVEREIGNIZED INTO RUSSIA.

As I recall "re-sovereignization" is the peculiar term used by Putin (and by Putin Patty and the quoted Russian propaganda sources) to describe the undoing of USA hegemony in the world. The term more applies to Russia and it's formerly controlled satellites. Those nations aspire to be free, to have their own sovereignty...but Russia underhandedly tries to bundle them back into FASCIST MOTHER RUSSIA...a quite unnatural aspiration that the world disapproves of.

So, Putin Patty, what do you have to say about re-sovereignization as it applies to Russia's attempt to re-satellite its neighboring sovereign nations?? hmmmm?
Main -> U.S. ground troops going to Poland, defense minister says (go to message) Apr 21, 14 10:48:10

Patty wrote:
If you want to regain some of your completely lost credibility here you have to focus more on the issues instead of the source.
In this case why have the NATO forces moved further east despite the agreement by the US that they wouldn't cross past Germany?
Also why did the US after lying to the other UN members that voted on a no fly zone then use it to attack planes on the ground?

While we have lost any resemblance of a democracy here in the US the Eastern countries have started to embrace new democratic policies.



YEP, STRAIGHT FROM RUSSIA.


Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 10:37:29

Patty wrote:
You haven't done your research. Putin didn't slow those exports it was a union dispute that was going on in the Ukraine.
"


Azarov explains problems with Ukrainian imports to Russia by processes in Customs Union

15-08-2013 16:32

Ukrainian Prime Minister Mykola Azarov has said that problems in trade with Russia were related to the formation and structuring of the Russia-Belarus-Kazakhstan Customs"

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Apr 21, 2014 13:03:08   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Horrors. The Patty obsession with me is out of control. horrors!

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Apr 21, 2014 13:04:50   #
Patty
 
jonnie perhaps you have no shame but I will copy your posts page from now on to every stalking post you follow me on. That way everyone can see the extent of your mental illness.
"Patty wrote:
Thanks She Wolf.
Jonnie doesn't bother me. He has given me complete control of his every waking thought. I think he is one of those guys who likes to be dominated. Kind of creepy but harmless.

It appears someone is obsessed with dominatrix status as well as Russia's Putin domination of world geopoltics. Creepy and not harmless.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:45:00
Patty wrote:
How does it feel to have me in complete control of your every waking thought?

Another Alinskyism troll response? You know you could ignore me except apparently you are paid by number of posts...or at least that's what you keep Alinskyizing about my postings.
But it appears I'm a small time "paid operative" compared to Patzers. 2 subjects & 2500 postings in 6/7 MONTHS vs. 260+ subjects & 3000 postings in 6/7 WEEKS. Wowzers.
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:35:57
This catalog appears to be mostly a record of Patty Alinskism troll and deflection responses to my pointing out the Russian propaganda op involved in Patty postings.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:29:48
The record appears to be mostly Patty Alinskyisms in reply to my pointing out the Russian propaganda operation involved.
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:25:33

Patty wrote:
Anything for you to defend your gullibility. What a fool they made of you my tool.
What a slam. I'm so devastated.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:23:48
Patty wrote:
"We" as in LA and I. Try to keep up. I would miss you if you didn't keep bumping my posts back up to the front of the line.
What a tool.
What a slam. I'm devastated.
Main -> Sen. Corker: We’re Going to Lose East Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:21:14
Patty wrote:
jonnie explain to me why Russia sent in peace keepers in Kosovo when the Serbs attacked them over their referendum? The serbs killed the peace keepers and Russian Kosovo citizens so he sent in troops who made the Serbs give Kosovo their independents. Please explain to me why Putin who had complete control of the two areas did he warn Serbia that if they attacked Kosovo again he would be back. He left Kosovo as an independent country.
How do you explain that and continue to spout that Russia is trying to land grab. You are either stupid or blind. Those are the only two options you have.
That is quite a Russian twist on the NATO operation that freed Kosovo from Serbia in the Yugoslavia breakup. Pure and simple fabricated Russian version of events regarding Kosovo.
Would you care to enlighten us about the source of this Russian version of Kosovo history? hmmmm??
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:12:39

Patty wrote:
Let me help you out since you don't seem to know when you have been made a fool of.
Check out Putin's "confession" about the "polite armed men in green"
Note his sarcasm and the smirk on his face.
This is what your "credible" MSM has twisted into a confession and made you look like a complete fool. Watch the video and hide your empty head in shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ikb6roqMg&feature=player_embedded
Anything to defend your dear leader Putin. Smirk smirk smirk.
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 12:10:12

Patty wrote:
We are talking about wealth protection. Something you don't have to worry about.


"We" is Putin Patty attempting to undermine the American economy in the interests of Putin's Russia. That's what I'm worried about. The 250+ subject postings in 6/7 weeks have 3 constant themes--US as evil world hegemon, Ukraine as US aggression, and the doom of the dollar & IMF vs. the rising of alternate world currency (with the banking propaganda lines as side part in the hegemony and world reserve currency propaganda lines).

250+ subject postings and 3000 posts in 6/7 weeks anti-America pro-Putin fascist Russia...5 or 6 subjects a day, 60 some postings a day...day after day since Mar. 4, 2014!!
Main -> Sen. Corker: We’re Going to Lose East Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:56:19

Patty wrote:
Theres that ugly head of your illness popping up again. Having a fact disability must be hard for you to live with.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phoneca...
So, Putin Patty can't answer to the "re-sovereinization" Russian & its satellites issue?? Only another Alinskyism troll deflection from neo-Nazi Putin Patty?! Propaganda Patty's credibility is faaaading.
Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:46:33
And Putin Patty has lost credibility by waiting too long to admit that Putin fessed up.

Moreover, the latest Patty post refers to the US Ukraine loan guarantee when the subject was Russia's reneging on its loan. Either confusion or reflexive deflection or both.

One wonders if Putin Patty will ever fess up regarding the Putin propaganda op on OPP?
Main -> If you have money in any of these bailed out banks.... (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:33:47

LAwrence wrote:
If your bank is FDIC insured then the government owns it and can at any time steal your money.

Well, I guess according to your and Putin Patty's poot about the banks, we'd better all take our FDIC-subject-to-taking Fed Reserve worthless dollars out of the deposit insured banks and stuff them in a mattress or buy a bar of gold. I personally will miss the convenience of paying my bills by automatic bank payments, but I suppose I can pull a few worthless Fed Reserve notes from the mattress or shave off a bit from the gold bar & drive over to hand the worthless FR bills or gold shavings over to pay my creditor bills.
You people are full of poot about banking and a Fed Reserve elitist plot of some 100 years duration. Why don't you scoop your bank poot over to Pooty Putin's Russia where that sort of propaganda originates?
Main -> Sen. Corker: We’re Going to Lose East Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 11:14:57

Patty wrote:
Why is it that Washington believes Ukraine belongs to them?
The real question is, why is it that Russia believes Ukraine, Tajikistan, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, etc. belongs to them!!

Ukraine has a right to be a sovereign nation, NOT RE-SOVEREIGNIZED INTO RUSSIA.

As I recall "re-sovereignization" is the peculiar term used by Putin (and by Putin Patty and the quoted Russian propaganda sources) to describe the undoing of USA hegemony in the world. The term more applies to Russia and it's formerly controlled satellites. Those nations aspire to be free, to have their own sovereignty...but Russia underhandedly tries to bundle them back into FASCIST MOTHER RUSSIA...a quite unnatural aspiration that the world disapproves of.

So, Putin Patty, what do you have to say about re-sovereignization as it applies to Russia's attempt to re-satellite its neighboring sovereign nations?? hmmmm?
Main -> U.S. ground troops going to Poland, defense minister says (go to message) Apr 21, 14 10:48:10

Patty wrote:
If you want to regain some of your completely lost credibility here you have to focus more on the issues instead of the source.
In this case why have the NATO forces moved further east despite the agreement by the US that they wouldn't cross past Germany?
Also why did the US after lying to the other UN members that voted on a no fly zone then use it to attack planes on the ground?

While we have lost any resemblance of a democracy here in the US the Eastern countries have started to embrace new democratic policies.



YEP, STRAIGHT FROM RUSSIA.


Main -> Putin calls on EU for joint aid to Ukraine (go to message) Apr 21, 14 10:37:29

Patty wrote:

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Apr 21, 2014 13:15:33   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Horrors. Patty's obsession with jonnie is out of control...horrors!

Or perhaps it a matter of the payments in the "Patty" Russian propaganda operation is by amount of space in postings rather than number of postings? or both??

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Apr 21, 2014 13:21:30   #
Artemis
 
She Wolf wrote:
Solar panels work. However, they have been priced out of most Americans budgets.

Trains are better than rush hour traffic but once again in my state the schedules make it impossible for working people to utilize them.

As to Patty's so called agenda, I appreciate her posts. I am capable of thinking for myself. I never pay attention to our corporate owned media. I have my own sources. It is interesting to read other's opinions and if you are not careful you just might learn something.

Keep posting Patty some of us appreciate your efforts.
Solar panels work. However, they have been priced... (show quote)


Does anyone want to comment on how our progress in energy and transportation has been blocked and derailed by the oil monger's stopping advances because it would take profits away from them. In example a rail system, and new energies. We are crawling in efficient energy cars to accommodate the oil industry.

Going back to a previous comment on having welfare recipients work. Think it's a great idea but I believe that won't be considered in fear from the outcry of us being socialists.

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Apr 21, 2014 13:23:28   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Horrors. Patty's obsession with jonnie is out of control...horrors!

Or perhaps it a matter of the payments in the "Patty" Russian propaganda operation is by amount of space in postings rather than number of postings? or both??


I doubt it, since I often have more to say than she does. Patty, are you in there?

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Apr 21, 2014 13:55:39   #
LAwrence
 
I heartily agree. Washington DC is a lost cause. We need to work at the state and local level to have any chance to get our liberties back.

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Apr 21, 2014 14:03:49   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
LAwrence wrote:
I heartily agree. Washington DC is a lost cause. We need to work at the state and local level to have any chance to get our liberties back.


Yes, curtail Federal power. That would mean giving up a lot of borrowed Federal money though.

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Apr 21, 2014 15:16:17   #
Patty
 
Yep Im here. Just got done making my Kulebyaka.... oh darn.! Did I let that slip?
lpnmajor wrote:
I doubt it, since I often have more to say than she does. Patty, are you in there?


:lol: :lol:

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Apr 21, 2014 23:23:18   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Patty wrote:
Yep Im here. Just got done making my Kulebyaka.... oh darn.! Did I let that slip?

:lol: :lol:


Da! :lol:

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Apr 21, 2014 23:35:42   #
Brian Devon
 
Patty wrote:
By Adnan Al-Daini

April 18, 2014 "ICH" - "DV" - - A study by professor Linda J. Blimes of Harvard University concludes that the cost to the US of the Iraq and Afghan wars, taken together, will be between $4 and $6 trillion. This includes long-term medical care and disability compensation for service members, veterans and families, military replenishment and social and economic costs. The cost so far is $2 trillion.
In order to get our head round the colossal figure of $6 trillion, this is equivalent to $75,000 for every household in the US. Deaths of Iraqis and Afghans taken together are estimated from 600,000 to a million, coalition troop deaths around 8,000, over 7,000 of whom are Americans. The suffering and the sheer misery of widows, orphans and families behind these statistics are unimaginable.

Our propensity to dehumanize the ‘other’ makes it all too easy for the demagogue, the charlatan and the power hungry to exploit. We are too readily manipulated and outraged into diverting our resources into wars that cause death, injury and destruction. The suffering to millions of fellow human beings is kept from us by mainstream media too ready to play its role. In any case, the dehumanization of our ‘enemies’ dulls our compassion to the point of not seeing their pain and suffering as real.

Leaders and those who would profit from these wars would package their language in distortions and omissions to hide the truth. George Orwell summed it up: “Political language… is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”

Let us for a moment put aside the human cost of these wars and concentrate on the economic cost. This obscene spending on death and destruction is done by a country, the US, where 15% of its citizens, 46 million, live below the poverty threshold of $23,492 and 1.5 million of its children become homeless every year.

Worldwide, 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day, 360 million of whom live on less than $1 a day. Grinding poverty, hunger and lack of clean water and effective sanitation blight their lives and their future. 22,000 children die every day due to poverty.

Families are trapped in a cycle of misery and deprivation that cascades through generations with no escape route. Yet in this world of need and suffering, the world military spending stood at over $1.7 trillion in 2012.

The vast majority of us individually can see that there is something seriously wrong with the way our priorities are perceived. It is beyond comprehension that with so much poverty and need worldwide, that so much wealth is spent on wars and weapons of death and destruction. However, this rationality and our sense of fairness could so easily be overcome when called upon to dehumanize our perceived ‘enemies’.

As a species we have tremendous talents. Our scientific achievements are incredible; our advances in medicine and technology are stunning. Our social development however is still almost at Stone Age level.
By Adnan Al-Daini br br April 18, 2014 "ICH... (show quote)



Patty. You made another great post. Too few Americans realize that hate speech leads to hateful behavior. The settlers had to dehumanize the native-Americans and paint them as savages in order to get people to slaughter them and steal their lands. Plantation owners had to dehumanize the slaves in order to get others to chain them, whip them, and sell off their children and spouses (or worse, lynch them). The Third Reich had to portray Europe's Jews as sub-human in order to get people to assembly-line murder them and steal their possessions.

Muslims had to be dehumanized and ridiculed in order to get Americans to slaughter them with bombs and automatic weapons as well as ruining their landscape with depleted uranium. All this to force them to sell us their oil at gunpoint and keep it priced in dollars so that we could remain the world's reserve currency (and of course enrich people like chickenhawk Dick Cheney and Halliburton).

I am quick to call out the vile haters on OPP (people like Franklin Graham) for denigrating and dehumanizing American Muslims, because I know all to well where this leads.

Too many of us have seen this movie before and we know how it ends. We don't want to see it again and refuse to shut up before the radical right violent bigots.

Patty, I have to tell you that I think you are gutsy and I admire you. Its not necessary that we agree on all matters.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 22, 2014 06:27:12   #
Patty
 
It seems that they actually need someone to hate. Its not healthy in my opinion. Im not gutsy Brian. I just don't care what the haters think. They don't pay my bills and I don't need them the way they need everyone else in their socialist system.

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