bylm1-Bernie wrote:
My friend, it is you who are wrong. Your words do not match your actions - or perhaps I should say your words in one place do not match your words in another place. If you aren't stripping the wealth from the rich by raising taxes on them, then what are you doing? You say "the benefits they receive from our government." What you apparently don't realize is that our government doesn't have any money that it doesn't first take from our citizens in the form of taxes. Of course, they print money or borrow it (same thing), then it has to be paid back in the future - and by whom? You guessed it. US citizens. I maintain that liberals do want equal outcome, or at least MORE equal outcome. You complain that redistribution of wealth and tearing down the rich are not real goals of the left but what in the world do call that which you have been preaching? I call it jealousy and class warfare. Under free market capitalism, anyone can start a business and endeavor to get ahead. He also has the right to take a risk and maybe to fail, just like the guys (or gals) did who you are complaining don't pay enough taxes. Oil rich countries? How about Venezuela? Leftist policies didn't work out so well there did they? BTW, a wealthy country doesn't necessarily equate to a high cost of living. Do you think Saudi Arabia has no poor people? If so, do you think they feel better since they live in an oil-rich nation?
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the problem in Venezuela is not the direction of leaning govt, they could just as easily be right leaning.. they are however criminals.. they are not governing, the are looting..
My point on poor people was not that some country did not have them, but rather that a poor american going to any other country would then be rich or poor or nineteen based on the nations cost of living..
they would have bring whatever money they got in America and that would not be possible.. so your saying compare a poor american to how poor some Somalian is has no more meaning the comparing a poor american to
a poor Norweign.. Better stated, a person is poor relative only to other people in the society in which they live. We serve no purpose by comparing them to any other nation..
CDM also have a remark about business owners, No one in America, or any place else, makes a business completely by themselves. so a businessman does not create his business unless he has access to funds, real estate and education at the very least.
So those who get the most from these inputs should be happy to repay the nation for providing them..
You do not like taxes, I dont like taxes.. but I see them as a duty.. our nation is not free we have to pay for it.
So with all the govt overspending, I do my duty and pay my taxes.. any patriot will do the same..
Now once more if the nation goods and services give more to one person then to another, by whatever means, the payment due should be higher, as in a graduated tax..
I lead a pretty darn comfortable life... I had a good little business and some luck.. but I did not make money at the expense of others and I do not think the rich should in any way received a tax cut..
Yes, I do like the fact that I saved some money and next year I will get a bigger payday tax wise on some land I sold..
consider the country.. do you think putting the wealth and power in the hands of 10% can in anyway be good for the nations future?
By the way... taxes on the rich have never, in the last 60 years or so, been as high as during the 50s when this nation built the greatest nation in the world and via the middle class..