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Aug 28, 2018 12:33:53   #
Airforceone
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
My understanding is that John McCain died late afternoon/early evening Saturday. Was the flag at the White House NOT at half mast Sunday as has been reported in a number of places? "Donald...ordered it to full staff after McCAIN passed." Hmmm. Methinks somebody is spreading Fake News. Now, was it raised again to Full Staff too soon. A valid question. But why do you not just report what happened and knock off the false claims. If you guys don't stop it, I have it on good authority the President is going to remove the bust of Martin Luther King from the oval office again...wait...what?
My understanding is that John McCain died late aft... (show quote)


It was raised to full staff yesterday and only when the Vetrins got invovled did Trump order it back to half staff. WTF is it with you people he ordered it back to full staff it took national pressure and his administration to put it back to half staff. Damm what is it with you people.

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Aug 28, 2018 12:35:27   #
woodguru
 
Oldschool 101 wrote:
Prove it!! It's the far left loons who come up with this crap. Only in your "AmeriKa" !!


Prove it...how old are you?

Several govornors had ordered flags at half mast, Texas among them, Trump joined the cry, but I can't catch whether all states pretty much went along with it. It certainly is not an automatic thing like it is when any senator or representative dies. And state govornors do not decide whether to order flags to be raised because they don't like the person.

Trump ordered the white house flag to be raised, not some mysterious deep state operative who wanted to make the idiot look like an idiot.

He isn't being beat up because he had it lowered again, he's being beat up because he raised it in the first place.

My guess is that the majority of people across the US just knew that the flag would be raised at half staff, so Trump is the only one petty and vindictive enough to go there.

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Aug 28, 2018 12:36:49   #
woodguru
 
byronglimish wrote:
Is McCain in heaven or hell?


Depends on if you even believe in a heaven or hell

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Aug 28, 2018 12:38:05   #
woodguru
 
EL wrote:
It's always the same loons, too.


Speaking of loons, the flag was ordered at half staff for Graham

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Aug 28, 2018 12:45:27   #
Noraa Loc: Kansas
 
woodguru wrote:
Prove it...how old are you?

Several govornors had ordered flags at half mast, Texas among them, Trump joined the cry, but I can't catch whether all states pretty much went along with it. It certainly is not an automatic thing like it is when any senator or representative dies. And state govornors do not decide whether to order flags to be raised because they don't like the person.

Trump ordered the white house flag to be raised, not some mysterious deep state operative who wanted to make the idiot look like an idiot.

He isn't being beat up because he had it lowered again, he's being beat up because he raised it in the first place.

My guess is that the majority of people across the US just knew that the flag would be raised at half staff, so Trump is the only one petty and vindictive enough to go there.
Prove it...how old are you? br br Several govorno... (show quote)


Oh God! Can you and the media think of anything else so petty to whine about. Really? The flag was lowered to half mast when he died and raised later. What the hell is the big deal? Oh, it wasn't left at half mast long enough. If he had left it there longer you lefties would have howled about that!

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Aug 28, 2018 12:49:53   #
woodguru
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
My understanding is that John McCain died late afternoon/early evening Saturday. Was the flag at the White House NOT at half mast Sunday as has been reported in a number of places? "Donald...ordered it to full staff after McCAIN passed." Hmmm. Methinks somebody is spreading Fake News. Now, was it raised again to Full Staff too soon. A valid question. But why do you not just report what happened and knock off the false claims. If you guys don't stop it, I have it on good authority the President is going to remove the bust of Martin Luther King from the oval office again...wait...what?
My understanding is that John McCain died late aft... (show quote)


It had been flown at half staff Sunday, and being flown that way until he was interred is the standard deal. I'll bet the person in charge of raising the flag knew that. My guess is that not another person in charge of raising flags in the US had any confusion about how the flag was to be raised Monday.

I'm not clear about the exact timing of when the flag was raised at full staff Monday, is it lowered at night and then re raised every morning?

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Aug 28, 2018 12:51:23   #
EmilyD
 
Airforceone wrote:
Answer the questions it’s always childish insults by you people. Know wonder this country has a fat disgusting AH in the White House.

Will you answer my question? How do you know that Trump ordered that the flag be risen to full staff from half staff? Where does it say he actually did that? The protocol for flying the flag for a SENATOR was followed by White House staff, and Trump had to write a proclamation, as Pennylynn has pointed out several times now, to lower the flag back to half staff, which is contrary to the laws regarding flag flying at the White House.

Proclamation (thank you, Pennylynn): https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-death-senator-john-sidney-mccain-iii/

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Aug 28, 2018 12:51:28   #
Airforceone
 
Pennylynn wrote:
John Sidney McCain III died at 4:28pm on August 25, 2018. The flag was lowered to half staff and was not raised to full staff until Monday.


Billy Graham was raised to half staff until his burial. Not moved up and down.

BS that flag was lowered on Sunday and raised back to full staff under the direction of Trump don’t play this foolish game. And only because of White House pressure Republicans in Congress the Veterans Along with national outrage did that disgusting draft dogger move it back to half staff.

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Aug 28, 2018 12:51:50   #
woodguru
 
whole2th wrote:
https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/john-mccains-family-ties-jewish-organized-crime-syndicates-arizona/ri24574

How does a 'public servant' amass a $200 million fortune?


McCain's wife was wealthy and had a well connected father

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Aug 28, 2018 13:01:12   #
whole2th
 
woodguru wrote:
McCain's wife was wealthy and had a well connected father


McCain embraced those connections (Jewish mafia) which gave him political $upport in Arizona and nationally--once his allegiances (to zionists and Israel) were established.

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Aug 28, 2018 13:43:56   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
Who deserves the respect more when flying the White House flag at half Staff.

Donald Ordered the flag at half staff for Billy Graham and ordered it to full staff after McCAIN passed.

Who deserved it more, McCAIN or Graham.


I really don't care.
My dog is running around the house like a bulldozer with a cone on her head, so I have important stuff to worry about.

Carry on........

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Aug 28, 2018 13:59:56   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Hopefully in heaven because there were very few Americans that gave more for this country than John McCAIN no matter wether you agree or disagree with his ideology. He was a maverick in the Senate because he firmly believe in the process and attempting a bi partisan solution. Which today’s Republican Party believes in one thing creating an all white society and become a nation like Russia.




So you get the right to go to heaven from his masterful service to the United States???

So does this analogy coinside with separation of church and state ?

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Aug 28, 2018 16:08:43   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
Airforceone wrote:
Answer the questions it’s always childish insults by you people. Know wonder this country has a fat disgusting AH in the White House.


Did you take it that I meant you???? Oh my! Whatever gave you that idea?

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Aug 28, 2018 17:53:07   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The flag for Graham was at half staff for one day the flag was at half staff for Mc Cain for Saturday and Sunday (2 days)... just as prescribed in the regulations.

Airforceone wrote:
Was the flag at half staff for Billy Graham and raised to full staff for McCAIN.

This has nothing to do with loons but everything to do with respect for McCAIN. Now if you want to act like a child go play in the little boy sandbox and stay away from the adult sandbox.

Answer the question without you’re childish insults ( IF TRUMP LOWERED THE FLAG TO HALF STAFF SHOULD HE HAVE LEFT THE FLAG AT HALF STAFF FOR McCAIN STOP YOU’re GD childish insults and answer a simple question,

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Aug 28, 2018 18:20:03   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The flag was at half staff and no one made a fuss..... it was just for the day Graham was buried.
The flag for McCain was hosted on Monday morning to full staff as regulations required.
It was not until cry babies decided that they all of a sudden love McCain that a proclamation was signed to fly the flag at half staff until Mc Cain is planted.

So you all love McCain... this is "borrowed" from another person's thread: "Was he a great American when he insisted the surge was a necessary investment and that maintaining a military presence in Iraq might be necessary? Was he a great American when he sang “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” to the tune of the Beach Boys’ “Barbara Ann” at a campaign stop in 2007 or compared the country’s then-President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to a monkey in 2013? Perhaps McCain was modeling American greatness when he said, “I hate the g**ks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

McCain’s Islamophobia was on display in a moment he is often praised for: his rebuttal of an accusation during the 2008 presidential campaign that Barack Obama was an Arab. McCain countered the accusation by saying, “He’s a decent family man, citizen, that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues” ― thereby positioning an Arab identity as existing in opposition to decency, a positive familial identity and U.S. citizenship.

McCain was a supporter of Israeli apartheid ― a mainstream position in U.S. politics but one that will nonetheless be judged harshly by history, as all colonialist atrocities ought to be.

His decision to broker a land deal that would turn Oak Flat, an Apache holy site in Arizona into a copper mine was likewise consistent with American traditions, as was its erasure from popular discourse. The movement to save Oak Flat was a powerful, intergenerational effort that inspired people around the world, and McCain dealt that campaign a crushing defeat when he and Sen. Jeff Flake attached a rider to a must-pass defense bill in 2014 that sealed the deal." There is more to this thread... see https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-139205-1.html

So..... you are blaming the President for something obama resigned in 2012... https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USCODE-2011-title4/USCODE-2011-title4-chap1-sec7. But, it predates obama.... The Code was originally established by Congress in 1926 with the enactment of the act of June 30, 1926. So, you blame President Trump for a law written more than 70 years ago and the Marines for following that law.....


BTW, the flag is never raised to half staff.... it is lowered to half staff. As it first is raised to full staff and then lowered to honor the passing of an individual.
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Airforceone wrote:
Billy Graham was raised to half staff until his burial. Not moved up and down.

BS that flag was lowered on Sunday and raised back to full staff under the direction of Trump don’t play this foolish game. And only because of White House pressure Republicans in Congress the Veterans Along with national outrage did that disgusting draft dogger move it back to half staff.

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