We are constantly in debates with the Left, the Progressives and the Democrats on issues large and small. Objectively we have won just about every debate, as has been adjudicated by many sources. Our opponents seem unimpressed by our superior logic and in depth understanding of our economy. They still hold to false positions like Napoleon at Waterloo, believe they are in the right, and continue with their distortions in the face of stinging rebukes.
The historical outcomes of their positions are painfully obvious, but they do not recognize the folly of their thinking, especially as it has led to the enormous debt we have built up through excessive government largess. Something else must be afoot!
Could it be reliance on the old "repeat a lie often enough and it will be believed" propaganda maneuver? If they somehow win with their lies, they gain power with each one, leading us all into the snarls of Socialism, and ultimately into the catastrophe of Communism!
Of the many serious problems with this turn of events, I can call out three:
1) This approach to governance inevitably leads to a totalitarian government led by an anointed party or class of sycophants;
2) The opposition must be permanently stifled, in every known instance by simply killing them off in the millions, or sending them to concentration camps, sometimes for "rehabilitation". Few survive;
3) The general public is left to descend into poverty and starvation, while the upper class lives a charmed and luxurious life. Neither an army of brilliant experts nor massive computers can match the power of the millions of daily incremental decisions easily absorbed in a society organized around capitalism.
That is why the entire group of European Union nations are Democracies, albeit with very high taxes to afford their social programs. They are all in deep trouble financially because of their excessive social emphasis and their immigration policies. There is no balance between government largess and individual duty and entrepreneurship, and they have had to leave their defense largely to us for over 70 years.
We must achieve that balance in America and hold fast to it, while rejecting the lying path others would have us follow.
Manning345 wrote:
We are constantly in debates with the Left, the Progressives and the Democrats on issues large and small. Objectively we have won just about every debate, as has been adjudicated by many sources. Our opponents seem unimpressed by our superior logic and in depth understanding of our economy. They still hold to false positions like Napoleon at Waterloo, believe they are in the right, and continue with their distortions in the face of stinging rebukes.
The historical outcomes of their positions are painfully obvious, but they do not recognize the folly of their thinking, especially as it has led to the enormous debt we have built up through excessive government largess. Something else must be afoot!
Could it be reliance on the old "repeat a lie often enough and it will be believed" propaganda maneuver? If they somehow win with their lies, they gain power with each one, leading us all into the snarls of Socialism, and ultimately into the catastrophe of Communism!
Of the many serious problems with this turn of events, I can call out three:
1) This approach to governance inevitably leads to a totalitarian government led by an anointed party or class of sycophants;
2) The opposition must be permanently stifled, in every known instance by simply killing them off in the millions, or sending them to concentration camps, sometimes for "rehabilitation". Few survive;
3) The general public is left to descend into poverty and starvation, while the upper class lives a charmed and luxurious life. Neither an army of brilliant experts nor massive computers can match the power of the millions of daily incremental decisions easily absorbed in a society organized around capitalism.
That is why the entire group of European Union nations are Democracies, albeit with very high taxes to afford their social programs. They are all in deep trouble financially because of their excessive social emphasis and their immigration policies. There is no balance between government largess and individual duty and entrepreneurship, and they have had to leave their defense largely to us for over 70 years.
We must achieve that balance in America and hold fast to it, while rejecting the lying path others would have us follow.
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Amen and Amen maybe we should just pull out amd leave them to their own devises and see how they fair or sink it is up to them.
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen maybe we should just pull out amd leave them to their own devises and see how they fair or sink it is up to them.
The USA should leave the UN, and the UN should leave the USA... The USA should pass and ratify an Amendment prohibiting the Federal Government from borrowing monies, including Intragovernmental borrowing...
And this would be a good start away from the NWO...
JimMe wrote:
The USA should leave the UN, and the UN should leave the USA... The USA should pass and ratify an Amendment prohibiting the Federal Government from borrowing monies, including Intragovernmental borrowing...
And this would be a good start away from the NWO...
Leave NATO as well. After we were attacked on 911. America sent 140,00 troops with full battle weapons into Afghanistan. NATO sent 40,000, had no bases, no tanks,a few aircraft. What a joke. The EU has been living off America for 70 years. America gave them trillions of dollars after WW2 under the Marshall plan and that benevolence hasn't stopped since . The US spends 500 million more than NATO on defense annually. NATO relies on US to defend them. Trump is 100% right to make them pay up on defense. NATO spends 1.5% of GDP on defense; the US, 4% or $2,222 per capita. Is NATO necessary to US? If they were to defend themselves their countries would not afford all the free social services . Healthcare for example. These socialist countries often cited as the utopia would fail if they had to pay for a standing army.. What young idealog Socialists don't understand is how complex any policy can be. They are very under educated as to the total picture when they focus only on the free stuff they will get.
More to say on the subject. Perhaps I'll save it for a book.
Corporations and their upper level pay structures are well above my pay grade. So are employment contracts with a golden parachute in case of termination. A long time ago I resolved not to practice the politics of envy, since it does me absolutely no earthly good to do so, and I retired with a decent severance and pension setup, the usual gold watch, and a nice certificate of service after 42 years. Actually, it was a Movado in a standup case.
I had my chances to make a bigger splash, several of them, and so did my father, but I was not the gambling type and neither was he. I opted for the security of a nice check every month and it worked out for the benefit of my family and for me. I earned it. This kind of career and millions like it carry on every year; it requires an education, knowledge of a business, discipline, dedication and a few breaks along the way.
I understand that there are more jobs on the market now than there are unemployed, the catch being lack of something needed on the part of the unemployed. Here in Virginia there are many trade schools where people can learn a trade and be almost guaranteed a job once they graduate, and there are scholarships to help those who cannot afford the course. Then too, the military is a very good place to get paid to learn from a very long list of valued trades, that also have many opportunities in the civilian market.
I should tell you of an experience with the matter of leveling of income in Holland. The unions rose up all together as demanded that the lowest level pay, say for a janitor, should be at least a third of the level for the highest paid, such as a CEO. And everyone else should be graded in between.
A few weeks after this demand was made, with a threat of nationwide strikes to force the issue, the ten largest corporations in Holland, and there are some very large ones like Philips, Ahold, Royal Dutch Shell, AMRO Bank, etc. sent a letter jointly to the government saying if you pass laws honoring this holdup, we will take our corporations to another country, and the 80% of all the workers we employ here in Holland, which was about 60% of all workers, will be out on the street and on the dole.
The government did not act, and the strike did not happen. Incomes were not leveled. These are the facts; I was there; I read that letter.
Ideas have consequences.
Manning345 wrote:
Corporations and their upper level pay structures are well above my pay grade. So are employment contracts with a golden parachute in case of termination. A long time ago I resolved not to practice the politics of envy, since it does me absolutely no earthly good to do so, and I retired with a decent severance and pension setup, the usual gold watch, and a nice certificate of service after 42 years. Actually, it was a Movado in a standup case.
I had my chances to make a bigger splash, several of them, and so did my father, but I was not the gambling type and neither was he. I opted for the security of a nice check every month and it worked out for the benefit of my family and for me. I earned it. This kind of career and millions like it carry on every year; it requires an education, knowledge of a business, discipline, dedication and a few breaks along the way.
I understand that there are more jobs on the market now than there are unemployed, the catch being lack of something needed on the part of the unemployed. Here in Virginia there are many trade schools where people can learn a trade and be almost guaranteed a job once they graduate, and there are scholarships to help those who cannot afford the course. Then too, the military is a very good place to get paid to learn from a very long list of valued trades, that also have many opportunities in the civilian market.
I should tell you of an experience with the matter of leveling of income in Holland. The unions rose up all together as demanded that the lowest level pay, say for a janitor, should be at least a third of the level for the highest paid, such as a CEO. And everyone else should be graded in between.
A few weeks after this demand was made, with a threat of nationwide strikes to force the issue, the ten largest corporations in Holland, and there are some very large ones like Philips, Ahold, Royal Dutch Shell, AMRO Bank, etc. sent a letter jointly to the government saying if you pass laws honoring this holdup, we will take our corporations to another country, and the 80% of all the workers we employ here in Holland, which was about 60% of all workers, will be out on the street and on the dole.
The government did not act, and the strike did not happen. Incomes were not leveled. These are the facts; I was there; I read that letter.
Ideas have consequences.
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These weren't ideas... These were unsound, irrational economic demands by Labor met with the harsh reality of Big Business... Holland's Labor Force at least understood the consequences of Bullying Real Bulls, and backed-off...
JimMe wrote:
These weren't ideas... These were unsound, irrational economic demands by Labor met with the harsh reality of Big Business... Holland's Labor Force at least understood the consequences of Bullying Real Bulls, and backed-off...
Well, the idea was "leveling of pay" however irrational that is, as the unions in Holland found out when they tried to make it happen. That idea had consequences.
Workers should get raises when CEO's pay goes up by millions of dollars, and it hasn't. Upper management and board of director's pay has gone up as much as several thousand percent from where it used to be in relation to workers.
woodguru wrote:
Workers should get raises when CEO's pay goes up by millions of dollars, and it hasn't. Upper management and board of director's pay has gone up as much as several thousand percent from where it used to be in relation to workers.
I'm glad someone keeps track of CEO and Director pay, because it is too rarified air for me. Workers are in line to get substantial pay raises as the labor shortages in key industries continue to grow as the economy grows. The real fear in the labor market is worker replacement by robots and AI algorithms over the next decade or so. Time to take night classes for a new job. While in IBM in the 60's, we retrained ex-military officers to be business programmers, and it was quite successful, although not without some difficulties. A few could not make it.
Manning345 wrote:
I'm glad someone keeps track of CEO and Director pay, because it is too rarified air for me. Workers are in line to get substantial pay raises as the labor shortages in key industries continue to grow as the economy grows. The real fear in the labor market is worker replacement by robots and AI algorithms over the next decade or so. Time to take night classes for a new job. While in IBM in the 60's, we retrained ex-military officers to be business programmers, and it was quite successful, although not without some difficulties. A few could not make it.
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Not everyone is mentally built for those positions.
Socialists believe that CEOs should be paid the same as uneducated peasants who wok with their hands
bggamers wrote:
Not everyone is mentally built for those positions.
Of course not, but retraining can be done for many jobs, and it will become more and more necessary in time.
Manning345 wrote:
Of course not, but retraining can be done for many jobs, and it will become more and more necessary in time.
I think the time is now have seen several shows where they encourage parents to concider that their son or daughter might be better suited for tech jobs and they need them so there is a job market out there for more people like electrician ,plumbers , welders, computer skilled , computer repair. Parents are so stuck on the idea of a college education they never think that these jobs pay very good money and are great for good advancement .
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