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Jun 21, 2018 22:52:38   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
The same policy was in effect the entire eight years of Obama and eight years of Bush before that. Why wasn't it "abhorrent" then? Obama puts kids in cages and it's humanitarian. Trump puts them in a nice clean safe facility and it's a crime against humanity.
What a guy you are.


That is total and absolute BS. What the hell is wrong with you people? "Zero tolerance" was not in effect under Bush or Obama. Were children separated from their parents during those years? Yes. Was it nearly as prolific as now? No. The Right trying to claim that fences with iron links are not cages. Down the rabbit hole and normal for them. There has been nothing close to this in the past. It drives me bonkers how you can lie so effortlessly. What do you care about? Those " nice clean safe facility" are being sued for abuses, such as administering drugs to "quiet their whining and acting out." Psychotics! You people have no freaking shame. When it is clear something is wrong, whether Right or Left, speak out. Grow a pair!

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Jun 21, 2018 22:54:45   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
fAKE NEWS that go after her and her husband and kids constantly!!!You Go Girl!!!!


What is the fake news? She wore a jacket that said those words and took it off when she arrived in Texas. This is absolute fact. Again, what is the fake news?

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Jun 21, 2018 23:03:12   #
rumitoid
 
bmac32 wrote:
As a matter of fact I don't. Any parent that would be willing to come across the border that is not a cross point my question is 'what kind of parent is this'?


How much are your shoes? Trade them for families from Central America. Walk the hundreds of miles to seek asylum from poverty, drug wars, corrupt governments, a clear and ever-present threat of mortal danger to your children, and tell me they are wrong to do what they feel is best for the safety and future of their children. You are totally clueless to who arrives at our borders. You get vindictive pablum from the WH. Terrorists and rapists and MS-13, oh my. No, terrified families and little kids.

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Jun 21, 2018 23:06:37   #
rumitoid
 
EmilyD wrote:
You really have to ask that question? Read your original post - it could have come straight out of CNN, because what you are saying she meant and what she really meant are two completely different things - i.e., Fake News. But I see how you tried to spin this here....


You have a severe reading comprehension defect. You, first of all, have no personal knowledge of what she meant: her husband speaking for her is hardly her own words. Second, I defended the proven beyond any doubt of wearing the jacket that read "I really don't care, do you?" What on earth are you calling fake news?

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Jun 21, 2018 23:07:11   #
rumitoid
 
EL wrote:
I think she's got guts just to go out the door with the way the media picks on her.


I agree.

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Jun 21, 2018 23:07:55   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
She is a class act!!!


I agree and that was the point of my thread.

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Jun 21, 2018 23:08:37   #
rumitoid
 
Lonewolf wrote:
SHE DID A GOOD JOB


I agree and that was the point of my thread.

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Jun 21, 2018 23:15:31   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
Stop trying to be obtuse. You aren't very good at it.


Stop trying to act smart, you are worse than I am at it. And what the hell is everybody calling fake news? That she wore a jacket that said on the back, "I really don"t care, do you"? There is absolute photographic evidence of it. What the Left is getting their panties in a bunch and attacking her is opinion, poor opinion, yet no one has mentioned that. That is not fake news as well. You are being abstruse.

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Jun 21, 2018 23:51:18   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
That is total and absolute BS. What the hell is wrong with you people? "Zero tolerance" was not in effect under Bush or Obama. Were children separated from their parents during those years? Yes. Was it nearly as prolific as now? No. The Right trying to claim that fences with iron links are not cages. Down the rabbit hole and normal for them. There has been nothing close to this in the past. It drives me bonkers how you can lie so effortlessly. What do you care about? Those " nice clean safe facility" are being sued for abuses, such as administering drugs to "quiet their whining and acting out." Psychotics! You people have no freaking shame. When it is clear something is wrong, whether Right or Left, speak out. Grow a pair!
That is total and absolute BS. What the hell is wr... (show quote)


It was not as prolific then because there was not a tidal wave of fraudulent asylum seekers swamping the system. In 2015 and 2016, both years had more asylum seekers in each year than in the 15 prior years. Of course there are fences. It is a detention facility. The only cages were during the Obama years. By the way, even Snopes verifies that your hero foisted illegal children off to human traffickers. The outrage over 1400 odd supposedly "lost" children is very noticeable. When the Obama Administration lost 4000 in one year no one said shit. I wonder why?
You have your wish. The kids will be housed in adult facilities with their parents. Any abuses that happen are a result of your whining.

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Jun 21, 2018 23:59:30   #
EmilyD
 
rumitoid wrote:
That is total and absolute BS. What the hell is wrong with you people? "Zero tolerance" was not in effect under Bush or Obama. Were children separated from their parents during those years? Yes. Was it nearly as prolific as now? No. The Right trying to claim that fences with iron links are not cages. Down the rabbit hole and normal for them. There has been nothing close to this in the past. It drives me bonkers how you can lie so effortlessly. What do you care about? Those " nice clean safe facility" are being sued for abuses, such as administering drugs to "quiet their whining and acting out." Psychotics! You people have no freaking shame. When it is clear something is wrong, whether Right or Left, speak out. Grow a pair!
That is total and absolute BS. What the hell is wr... (show quote)


Geez..I really don't want to call you names, but "zero tolerance" means zero tolerance against breaking the law - not zero tolerance against caring about the children. Trump tried to follow the letter of the law, which says, if an adult is accused of being a criminal (by crossing into our country illegally, which is clearly breaking the law), they will be placed in a detention center until they can be tried by a judicial system of the United States to see if they qualify for admission into the United States without abiding by our immigration laws.. Children are not allowed to stay in those detention centers along with adults (for many obvious reasons). Children are considered children until they reach the age of 17 years old here...think about that. Now that the left and it's media have convinced you and yours to yell loudly that this inhumane treatment of "children", Trump comes up with an Executive Order that says "ok....children can stay in the detention centers with those adults who claim to be their parents". Let's see what happens now, rumitoid. It will be difficult to find what that is because your lying MSM won't cover it...but it will be out there for the rest of the silent majority to ponder. We don't listen to the MSM any more.

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Jun 22, 2018 00:14:06   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
EmilyD wrote:
Geez..I really don't want to call you names, but "zero tolerance" means zero tolerance against breaking the law - not zero tolerance against caring about the children. Trump tried to follow the letter of the law, which says, if an adult is accused of being a criminal (by crossing into our country illegally, which is clearly breaking the law), they will be placed in a detention center until they can be tried by a judicial system of the United States to see if they qualify for admission into the United States without abiding by our immigration laws.. Children are not allowed to stay in those detention centers along with adults (for many obvious reasons). Children are considered children until they reach the age of 17 years old here...think about that. Now that the left and it's media have convinced you and yours to yell loudly that this inhumane treatment of "children", Trump comes up with an Executive Order that says "ok....children can stay in the detention centers with those adults who claim to be their parents". Let's see what happens now, rumitoid. It will be difficult to find what that is because your lying MSM won't cover it...but it will be out there for the rest of the silent majority to ponder. We don't listen to the MSM any more.
Geez..I really don't want to call you names, but &... (show quote)


Bravo.

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Jun 22, 2018 00:44:47   #
EmilyD
 
rumitoid wrote:
You have a severe reading comprehension defect. You, first of all, have no personal knowledge of what she meant: her husband speaking for her is hardly her own words. Second, I defended the proven beyond any doubt of wearing the jacket that read "I really don't care, do you?" What on earth are you calling fake news?


You are so full of hatred, that you don't believe her husband? I posted his tweet why he says why she did what she did. I don't want to call you the name I'm thinking of right now, but it fits. You seem like a very hurt person, and I'm sorry for that, but don't project it on the rest of us.

Edited to add: I deleted my last sentence because it was too judgmental...sorry .

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Jun 22, 2018 05:56:12   #
billyjoe
 
"When people tell you who they are believe them."

We know who said that.

"Let them eat cake."

We know who said that as well.

Do the words fit into the person's mouth in a believable way or do they not ?

Well after all the lies I have heard I am going to take the coat for what it is.

The truth.

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Jun 22, 2018 07:01:13   #
Singularity
 
billyjoe wrote:
"When people tell you who they are believe them."

We know who said that.

"Let them eat cake."

We know who said that as well.

Do the words fit into the person's mouth in a believable way or do they not ?

Well after all the lies I have heard I am going to take the coat for what it is.

The truth.


I am generously hoping the message was, "I don't care about the politics, do you? How can I help these children get back to their parents."

"Forget about what the Democrats or Republicans can, did or did not do, Congress can act or not. My husband or the news media can spin this however."

We can talk about this bullshit till the cows come home. But what can you do in this moment to help these children?

Simple.

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Jun 22, 2018 10:52:40   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
It was not as prolific then because there was not a tidal wave of fraudulent asylum seekers swamping the system. In 2015 and 2016, both years had more asylum seekers in each year than in the 15 prior years. Of course there are fences. It is a detention facility. The only cages were during the Obama years. By the way, even Snopes verifies that your hero foisted illegal children off to human traffickers. The outrage over 1400 odd supposedly "lost" children is very noticeable. When the Obama Administration lost 4000 in one year no one said shit. I wonder why?
You have your wish. The kids will be housed in adult facilities with their parents. Any abuses that happen are a result of your whining.
It was not as prolific then because there was not ... (show quote)


As you said to me one of the rare times I did not have a source, sources, please. Give me a link to verify.

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