rumitoid

By population in America, presently most are self-described as some sort of Christian. I say "some sort of Christian" not in a derogatory sense but because of the vast diversity in denominations and sects, church attendance, and conviction of belief. In 2017, taking in all those factors, 75% identified as Christians. It should be noted that this included a large percentage of people who went to church maybe once or twice a year and belonged to no church. Does not matter. Think about it? What does it mean to say that in the land of the free and the home of the brave and of the First Amendment? What about Buddhists and Hindus and Jews, oh my! If any of them insisted on a billboard like Rev. Jeffress--true and their right under the guaranteed equality of religion--what would Rev. Jeffress say. What he has already said: they are going to hell. (Islam is wrong, it is a heresy from the pit of Hell; Mormonism is wrong, it is a heresy from the pit of Hell; Judaism, you can’t be saved being a Jew, you know who said that by the way, the three greatest Jews in the New Testament, Peter, Paul, and Jesus Christ, they all said Judaism won’t do it, it’s faith in Jesus Christ. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/jeffries-jews-mormons-muslims-and-gays-are-going-to-hell/ )

Pastor Robert Jeffress said Dallas Mayor Michael Rawlings and the Dallas Morning News successfully pressured a billboard company to remove an advertisement for his church.

Jeffress said a columnist for the paper called him a "bigot" for declaring "America Is a Christian Nation" and that Rawlings called it "divisive" and characterized it as hatred.

The billboard was posted to advertise "Freedom Sunday" at the First Baptist Church of Dallas, where Jeffries is the senior pastor.
"[Rawlings] does not have the right to weigh in on this and to disparage our church," Jeffress said, adding that the incident "shows me the hypocrisy of liberalism."

Jeffress called the left the "most intolerant people" because they are most intolerant "when it comes to ideas they disagree with."

Jeffress said the recent Supreme Court decision that ruled a Christian baker did not have to bake a gay couple a cake declared that the government "cannot be hostile toward religion."

He said his line was based on a quote from John Jay, the first chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Curious: "the hypocrisy of liberalism" to find that message hateful, divisive, and bigoted?

Jeffress mistakenly said the recent Supreme Court decision that ruled a Christian baker did not have to bake a gay couple a cake declared that the government "cannot be hostile toward religion." It did not. Ah, but this point is way too technical for the religious bigots. That decision merely said that the court did not give enough credit to the grounds of religious belief.

We are not now nor ever have been a Christian nation by design of the Founding Fathers and our Constitution.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Let's see now, .... you last posted this topic, or something very similar, on Dec 4, 2017 and on Feb 13, 2018. "fullspinzoo" posted it on Sept. 18, 2017, and "numerian" posted similar, with a reply from you, on Sep 4, 2014.

Something you are smoking is apparently destroying your memory, or are you terribly afraid that not enough people have heard your leftist BS, yet.

Christians were the majority of the population of this country for a couple of centuries, but you leftists are still trying to convince who "your selves?" that this is not a christian nation?

Us Christians have no strong opinion, or reason to debate the topic, but you will someday have the opportunity to discuss your religious beliefs with the one person that has the final say. Good luck.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

We should ignore this Drama Queen, Trooper745

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Great job of telling the left leaning fool off. Keep up the good work.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I agree with you but it is so hard to do when he goes off like this. More than 80% of the people in this nation admit to believing in God and yet people like him, they are all wrong, just can't keep from doing this now and then. They understand that this is a Christian nation but want it changed.

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

How Many Times Do You Folks Have To Post This Topic
And Continue To Get Your Butts Kicked ??

If You Can Nuance It In Enough Directions
Maybe One Day It Will Fly ??

Kevyn

Of course this is not and has never been a Christian nation. Along with Christians there are Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, and people of hundreds of other faiths that make up our nation. The largest religious group in the country is Catholics at 23% of the population followed by atheists and non believers at 20% Almost 100 beliefs are recognized by the department of veterans affairs their symbols etched in headstones at Arlington ranging from Methodist to Wicca and Shinto. We are a nation welcoming all religions and nonbelievers alike.

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Could You Give Us The Demographic Break-Down For 1776 ??

At The Time Of The Constitutional Convention There Were Some Jews,
Few Catholics, Catholics Are Christians btw...
Until Immigration In The Late 19th Century
And Zero Buddhists

In 1900, There Were Less Than 100 Muslims
According To That Years National Census
And They All Lived In NYC

Radiance3

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You Muslim rumitoid, whose Islam goal is total US and world conversion to Islam.

Here is the earliest history of Christians who gave birth to America since they arrived in the late 1400's and early 1500's.
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America was founded by Christians. In 1492, Columbus funded by King and Queen of Spain sailed his voyage to the West. His journey was continued by Amerigo’s Vespucci in 1496. Thus, America was named after him.

In early 1500 to 1600, The earliest settlers were Christians from Europe who came to escape the religious persecutions of the King of England. They came with nothing except their most priceless possession of the Christian Holy Bible.

They had nothing else and they suffered so much due to severe cold weather, with no home to live. They built homes, cleaned up field and farmed the fields with their bare hands. Later they trained horses to help them plow the fields. The extreme weather, and dangers from Indians, diseases, more than half of the settlers died. They struggled worked very hard at the same time defended their lives from the Indians.

Many among them emerged brilliant Founders who’ve created the Foundation of their nation, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. This was created under the guidance of Judeo-Christian doctrine. 100 percent of the Founders were Christians. Except one in doubt (Jefferson) but later believed in God.

1776 was our nations Independence from England. And our first president George Washington set into office in 1789. Washington was a firm believer of Christ. Check his statue kneeling to God, at Saint Paul Church in NYC, near the Ground Zero, still there saved by our God during the Islam bombing of NYC on Sept. 11, 2001.

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness", God's unalienable rights, is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the "unalienable rights" which the Declaration says have been given to all human beings by our Creator, and which governments are created to protect.

Our Founders suffered several wars protecting the sovereign of this nation.
War of 1812
Some call it the Second War of Independence, for when it ended, and the US had fought Great Britain to a stalemate, America's independence was assured. Each of the major events in this war are covered.

Mexican American
Learn how the dispute over Texas joining the Union resulted in US conquest of California and the balance of the Southwest

Revolutionary War
From 1775 to 1782, the Americans faced off against the largest empire in the world. Led by General Washington they won. Learn about the causes of the war and follow each battle in this section.

Civil War
It was America's bloodiest war as brother fought brother. Learn about the battles, read first-hand accounts, and even watch a multimedia presentation.

Spanish American War
America became a world power with its victory over the Spanish in this war. Learn about the major events in this war in the section.

World War I
Millions died in the fields of Europe, sometimes while fighting over a few disputed yards. Learn about the major battles and events in this the first major war of the century.

World War II
It was a war like no other and covered all corners of the globe. Learn about the major battles of the war in this section.

And later so many other wars. But these are the wars that defended the very survival of our country.
Millions of them died, our grandparents, parent, husbands, brothers and sisters all poured out their blood for the sake of freedom that so many of the recent people who came later here took them for granted.

Now, these invaders who don't believe in Christ, or Muslims, and illegals want to take away our land where millions of our loved ones have suffered and died for it.

These invaders who came and enjoyed the fruits of the labor of our Christian Founders, now claim this is their land and not a Christian country. They better pack up and go back where they came from.

Contrary to popular belief, the phrase "separation of church and state" is not in the U.S. Constitution.

In fact, not one of the ninety Founding Fathers stated, argued for or against, or even referred to such a phrase when they debated for months about the specific words to use when writing the First Amendment. Congressional Records from June 7 to September 25, 1789 reveal that none of these men, including Thomas Jefferson, ever used the phrase.

Prayer in Congress on Sept. 7, 1774.
The 35th Psalm, the Psalter for the seventh day of September was read by Rev. Mr. Duché in the first Continental Congress:
Plead my cause, Oh, Lord, with them that strive with me, fight against them that fight against me. Take hold of buckler and shield, and rise up for my help. Draw also the spear and the battle-axe to meet those who pursue me; Say to my soul, “I am your salvation.” Let those be ashamed and dishonored who seek my life; Let those be turned back and humiliated who devise evil against me.

“O Lord our Heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings, and Lord of lords, who dost from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and reignest with power supreme and uncontrolled over all the Kingdoms, Empires and Governments; look down in mercy, we beseech Thee, on these our American States, who have fled to Thee from the rod of the oppressor and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on Thee. To Thee have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support, which Thou alone canst give. Take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in Council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their Cause and if they persist in their sanguinary purposes, of own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved hands in the day of battle!
Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the councils of this honorable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation. That the scene of blood may be speedily closed; that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety, prevail and flourish amongst the people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask in the name and through the merits of JESUS CHRIST, Thy Son and our Savior.
Amen.”

Reverend Jacob Duché, presided the prayer.
Rector of Christ Church of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
September 7, 1774, 9 o’clock a.m.
Source The Congressional Prayer Caucus
The Library of Congress, from the collected reports of the various patriots, recorded on a famous historical placard the effect of that first prayer upon Congress:

George Washington was kneeling there, and Henry, Randolph, Rutledge, Lee, and Jay, and by their side there stood, bowed in reverence, the Puritan Patriots of New England, who at that moment had reason to believe that an armed soldiery was wasting their humble households. It was believed that Boston had been bombarded and destroyed.
They prayed fervently “for America, for Congress, for the Province of Massachusetts Bay, and especially for the town of Boston,” and who can realize the emotion with which they turned imploringly to Heaven for Divine interposition and — “It was enough” says Mr. Adams, “to melt a heart of stone. I saw the tears gush into the eyes of the old, grave, Pacific Quakers of Philadelphia.”

Radiance3

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Kevin, the current 2017-18 demographic of millions of Atheists, Muslims, Hindus, and all kinds of illegal invaders from your Muslim land and other countries came. The ultimate purpose is to subjugate, and convert to your Islam god. That's the whole goals of Islam. Now Europe is back to savagery due to your Muslim people now over populating the continent.

Read my message to rumitoid about the US birth and history of Christianity.

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

So what else can we do to wipe God off of the planet that he created?
So sad to see you relegate your life to issues of Hatred.

Radiance3

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God has set foot on the high hills of America, looking at all his people. America, born as Christian will always be a Christian nation.

Those savages Muslims who came and kill for their god will not prevail.
And those immoral Atheists will burn like Sodom and Gomorrah. God promised not to flood the earth again. But people abused, and sinned so much. So God burned the city and they all perish except the few.

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Don't Leave Out
Many Of Our Most Prestigious Colleges
(Harvard, Yale, William And Mary)
Were Founded As Christian Universities

Radiance3

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Attempts to colonize Florida failed at first because of the hostility of the Indians. Early missionaries did not succeed, even though as early as 1528 Fr. Juan Juarez, a Spanish Franciscan, was appointed bishop of Florida. He disappeared mysteriously. In 1549 a group of missionaries landed near Tampa Bay and within a few days all were savagely killed by the Indians.

Philip II in 1565 sent Admiral Pedro Menendez de Aviles, a leading naval leader of the Spanish Empire, to establish a colony in Florida. Twelve Franciscans and four Jesuits went with him to convert the Indians. Sailing along the Florida coast on August 28, 1565, Admiral Menendez saw an ideal peninsula and ordered the boats to drop anchor. On September 8 he proclaimed the founding of St. Augustine because the peninsula was found on the saint's feast day. missionaries spread out from St. Augustine to convert the Indians, with many priests losing their lives as the new, advancing civilization was resisted by the Indians.

Missionaries were determined to bring Christianity to Florida and so the priests who lost their lives were always replaced, and gradually St. Augustine developed and the new colony grew. The countryside became peaceful as missions and monasteries were founded throughout Florida and most of the Indians north of the Gulf of Mexico and east of the Mississippi River converted to the Catholic Church.

The French Huguenots then appeared and raided Spanish Catholic Indian settlements. Missionaries and the faithful were put to death with extreme cruelty. The British, who had been colonizing in the north, also began to destroy Spanish gains.

Governor Moore of South Carolina in 1704 directed a raid of the Apalachee Mission, valuable for food supplies. Franciscan missionaries were put to death; 1,400 Indians were taken into slavery by the English governor and 800 Catholic Indians were killed.

Weakened, the Spanish signed the Treaty of Paris with England in 1763m ceding Florida to the British. The Catholic faith in Florida was then even more suppressed. At the end of the American Revolution, however, the United States government returned Florida to Spanish control. In 1821 Florida was purchased as part of the United States.

in 1598 Don Juan de Onate led an expedition to establish a colony in New Mexico. It consisted of 400 soldiers, 10 missionaries, 83 supply wagons and carts, and 7,000 head of stock. Onate went as far as Wichita, Kansas, and California. Onate's expeditions to New Mexico became an economic drain and the victory of New Spain assigned Pedro de Peralta to build a new capital and to colonize. This was done. He named a site, Royal City of the Holy Faith of St. Francis, known today as Sante Fe (Holy Faith). Santa Fe was founded in 1609 and became the headquarters for future missions in New Mexico. By 1625 there were forty-three missions and 34, 000 Christian Indians.

A Jesuit priest, Fr. Eusebio Francisco Kino, labored in the Upper Pima country, which is now the Mexican state of Sonora and southern Arizona. Fr. Kino has been called "the most picturesque missionary pioneer of all North America â explorer, astronomer, cartographer, mission builder, ranchman, cattle king, and defender of the frontier." His maps were the most accurate of the time, winning fame in Europe.

Fr. Kino's mission of San Xavier del Bac, not far from what is Tucson, Arizona, is now a national monument, while still the parish church for the Pima Indians. It is the finest example of Spanish Renaissance architecture in the United States.

Fr. Kino traveled thousands of miles on horse, ever anxious to convert souls. Some of this trails became roads, and he kept journals of his extensive travels. His papers were preserved in the Huntington Library in San Marino, California. While Fr. Kino won the faith of the Pima Indians for Jesus Christ, he was always sad that he did not succeed in converting the Apache Indians.

Fr. Kino died on March 15, 1711, in poverty, as he had lived. He is venerated as a great American pioneer.

Priests who escaped France during its revolution and came to the United States established missions, opening Catholic schools wherever possible.

9. Who was the Apostle of the Alleghenies?
Prince Demetrius Gallitzin was ordained in 1795 by Bishop John Carroll. His father was the Russian ambassador to Holland and he was born in the Hague in 1770. Demetrius had been prepared for a military career by his father, who scoffed at religion as he was an admirer of Voltaire. The elder Gallitzin kept religion from his son and even destroyed his wife's faith. In danger of death, the mother of Demetrius, when he was only 16, repented, called for a priest, and was reconverted. Upon her recovery she prayed to St. Monica, who in her own time had prayed for the conversion of her son, St. Augustine.

Amazed at his mother reconversion, when he had been taught to ridicule religion and revelation, Demetrius told how his curiosity was stimulated: "I soon felt convinced of the necessity of investigating the different religious systems, in order to find the true one...My choice fell upon the Catholic Church, and at the age of seventeen, I became a member of that Church."

After his conversion Demetrius continued his interest in military pursuits. Circumstances led him to come to America to offer his service to the infant army, but instead he became aware of the shortage of priests and offered himself to Bishop John Carroll t

There are thousands of Christian colleges and universities in our country. In fact the earliest Christian schools are run by Catholics.
Hospitals and medical providers are mostly run by Catholic Christians.