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Jun 17, 2018 17:03:09   #
EmilyD
 
From the Center for Immigration Studies; Birthright Citizenship in the United States.

Here are three snip-its from the article (only three because it is a very long, but interesting, article):

"Every year, 300,000 to 400,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the United States. Despite the foreign citizenship and illegal status of the parent, the executive branch of the U.S. government automatically recognizes these children as U.S. citizens upon birth......Eminent legal scholars and jurists, including Professor Peter Schuck of Yale Law School and U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner, have questioned whether the 14th Amendment should be read to mandate such a permissive citizenship policy. Nevertheless, the practice has become the de facto law of the land without any input from Congress or the American public.......The overwhelming majority of the world’s countries do not offer automatic citizenship to everyone born within their borders. Over the past few decades, many countries that once did so — including Australia, Ireland, India, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Malta, and the Dominican Republic — have repealed those policies. Other countries are considering changes......Most benefits Americans would regard as “welfare” are not accessible to illegal immigrants. However, illegal immigrants can obtain welfare benefits such as Medicaid and food stamps on behalf of their U.S.-born children." (Emphasis added by me - EmilyD)

There is a lot more about this issue in this link: https://cis.org/Birthright-Citizenship-United-States

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Jun 17, 2018 17:28:52   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
EmilyD wrote:
From the Center for Immigration Studies; Birthright Citizenship in the United States.

Here are three snip-its from the article (only three because it is a very long, but interesting, article):

"Every year, 300,000 to 400,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the United States. Despite the foreign citizenship and illegal status of the parent, the executive branch of the U.S. government automatically recognizes these children as U.S. citizens upon birth......Eminent legal scholars and jurists, including Professor Peter Schuck of Yale Law School and U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner, have questioned whether the 14th Amendment should be read to mandate such a permissive citizenship policy. Nevertheless, the practice has become the de facto law of the land without any input from Congress or the American public.......The overwhelming majority of the world’s countries do not offer automatic citizenship to everyone born within their borders. Over the past few decades, many countries that once did so — including Australia, Ireland, India, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Malta, and the Dominican Republic — have repealed those policies. Other countries are considering changes......Most benefits Americans would regard as “welfare” are not accessible to illegal immigrants. However, illegal immigrants can obtain welfare benefits such as Medicaid and food stamps on behalf of their U.S.-born children." (Emphasis added by me - EmilyD)

There is a lot more about this issue in this link: https://cis.org/Birthright-Citizenship-United-States
From the Center for Immigration Studies; Birthrigh... (show quote)


One more time. The section of the 14th Amendment dealing with this is the first section. (There are five). The author of the first section was Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan. Here are his exact words regarding birth citizenship for illegals and the intent of the Amendment in that respect, in a public statement.

He said the language “is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already,” explaining that “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, [or] who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”
The "law of the land" he was referring to was the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which specifically excluded aliens from birth citizenship.

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2015/08/21/what-did-the-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/

Any child of illegals or temporary residents given birth citizenship in this country received it in direct contradiction to the stated intent of the authors of the Amendment in the 39th Congress.

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Jun 17, 2018 17:34:38   #
EmilyD
 
Loki wrote:
One more time. The section of the 14th Amendment dealing with this is the first section. (There are five). The author of the first section was Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan. Here are his exact words regarding birth citizenship for illegals and the intent of the Amendment in that respect, in a public statement.

He said the language “is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already,” explaining that “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, [or] who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”
The "law of the land" he was referring to was the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which specifically excluded aliens from birth citizenship.

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2015/08/21/what-did-the-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/

Any child of illegals or temporary residents given birth citizenship in this country received it in direct contradiction to the stated intent of the authors of the Amendment in the 39th Congress.
One more time. The section of the 14th Amendment d... (show quote)


That's right. The fact that it has become a de facto law in contradiction to the stated intent without involving Congress or the American people is what should be challenged.

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Jun 17, 2018 18:53:24   #
Radiance3
 
EmilyD wrote:
From the Center for Immigration Studies; Birthright Citizenship in the United States.

Here are three snip-its from the article (only three because it is a very long, but interesting, article):

"Every year, 300,000 to 400,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the United States. Despite the foreign citizenship and illegal status of the parent, the executive branch of the U.S. government automatically recognizes these children as U.S. citizens upon birth......Eminent legal scholars and jurists, including Professor Peter Schuck of Yale Law School and U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner, have questioned whether the 14th Amendment should be read to mandate such a permissive citizenship policy. Nevertheless, the practice has become the de facto law of the land without any input from Congress or the American public.......The overwhelming majority of the world’s countries do not offer automatic citizenship to everyone born within their borders. Over the past few decades, many countries that once did so — including Australia, Ireland, India, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Malta, and the Dominican Republic — have repealed those policies. Other countries are considering changes......Most benefits Americans would regard as “welfare” are not accessible to illegal immigrants. However, illegal immigrants can obtain welfare benefits such as Medicaid and food stamps on behalf of their U.S.-born children." (Emphasis added by me - EmilyD)

There is a lot more about this issue in this link: https://cis.org/Birthright-Citizenship-United-States
From the Center for Immigration Studies; Birthrigh... (show quote)

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Congress must immediately revoke that birth right citizenship. Or we will never have a country left anymore. Call all your Congressmen to start the immediate process. I'll do my part.

Hundreds of thousands of pregnant Mexicans, Chinese, Muslims, South or Central American women come illegally to America every year to deliver their anchor babies. Then they require US taxpayers to provide for their medical care, education, food, housing, and all kinds of free bees. The parents demand that they all have rights to stay permanently due to their babies born in the US.

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Jun 17, 2018 20:15:21   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Follow the LAW AND DEPORT THEM ALL.

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Jun 17, 2018 20:15:21   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Follow the LAW AND DEPORT THEM ALL.

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Jun 18, 2018 07:51:51   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
old marine wrote:
Follow the LAW AND DEPORT THEM ALL.


Also make sure that they can NEVER be granted citizenship since they came here to game the system originally.

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Jun 18, 2018 08:27:22   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Justsss wrote:
Also make sure that they can NEVER be granted citizenship since they came here to game the system originally.

That is too harsh, just put them at the bottom of the immergration list. If they can not fulfill the immigration requirements of learning to read, write and speak English and learn basic American history in three years then deport them as underisiable.



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Jun 18, 2018 09:42:38   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
[quote=old marine]That is too harsh, just put them at the bottom of the immergration list.

They along with very dishonest employers are part of the reason why the wage structure is stagnant.
They’ve already each cost Americans tens of thousands of dollars. Sorry the only way to get it to stop is make the penalty high enough so they won’t try to come.
Try going to Mexico illegally and see what you get.

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Jun 18, 2018 09:44:09   #
ofnoblemien
 
Picture this: A pregnant illegal delivers inches into the American side of the bridge. "Anchor Babies: is an obvious abuse of the 14th Amendment! Illegals know damn well what they are doing.

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Jun 18, 2018 09:54:27   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
ofnoblemien wrote:
Picture this: A pregnant illegal delivers inches into the American side of the bridge. "Anchor Babies: is an obvious abuse of the 14th Amendment! Illegals know damn well what they are doing.


My point. Birth Citizenship for aliens was never intended by the authors of the Amendment and they said so.

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Jun 18, 2018 13:41:25   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
[quote=Justsss]
old marine wrote:
That is too harsh, just put them at the bottom of the immergration list.

They along with very dis6honest employers are part of the reason why the wage structure is stagnant.
They’ve already each cost Americans tens of thousands of dollars. Sorry the only way to get it to stop is make the penalty high enough so they won’t try to come.
Try going to Mexico illegally and see what you get.

You delegated the most important part of my post to make it look like your socialist Demon-Rats swamp/sewer dwelling traitors do....The same way they do President Trump's statements.

My original post said to put them at the bottom of the immigration line, give them three years to fulfill the legal requirements of learning to read and write and speak English and learn basic American history in three years or deport them as undesirables

Semper Fi brother's and sister's and all true American patriots every where.

Long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave forever amen and amen.

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Jun 18, 2018 13:46:54   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
[quote=Justsss]
old marine wrote:
That is too harsh, just put them at the bottom of the immergration list.

They along with very dishonest employers are part of the reason why the wage structure is stagnant.
They’ve already each cost Americans tens of thousands of dollars. Sorry the only way to get it to stop is make the penalty high enough so they won’t try to come.
Try going to Mexico illegally and see what you get.


NEXT TIME YOU CHANGE MY POST TO MEAN SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT I POSTED YOU WILL REGRET IT.

NOT A THREAT JUST A FACT.

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Jun 18, 2018 13:52:40   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
old marine wrote:
NEXT TIME YOU CHANGE MY POST TO MEAN SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT I POSTED YOU WILL REGRET IT.

NOT A THREAT JUST A FACT.


Sorry old marine but I was just replying. But in all reality, a threat on here ?
NOW YOU’RE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE SOME LEFTY LOONIE !

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Jun 18, 2018 13:57:33   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
[quote=old marine]NEXT TIME YOU CHANGE MY POST TO MEAN SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT I POSTED YOU WILL REGRET IT.

NOT A THREAT JUST A FACT.

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I only do what my socialist programers program my two brain cells to do.

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